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Fateswebb ago

I think they're trying to expose these crimes not celebrate them....

21yearsofdigging ago

That would be a nice thought and I not have been treated so badly by a video game production I might have wanted to believe this

Fateswebb ago

What? How can a video game treat you badly?

21yearsofdigging ago

The game was a about transhumanism and I was very vocal about that along with other subjects such as child trafficking.Long long story but blacklisted as a result

Fateswebb ago

You do or you don't believe in transhumanism? I mean it seems to me like it's just natural and obvious that it's possible...

21yearsofdigging ago

No,I don't believe there is anything natural about it. Period.

Fateswebb ago

So do you believe in evolution ?

Angelis_Solaris ago

Many scientists dissent from evolution, as there is not much evidence for its occurrence in nature, except for very limited adaptation and convergence of close species (opposite of evolution).

See:

https://www.newgeology.us/Debunking%20Evolution.pdf

https://crev.info/2019/03/neutral-theory-of-evolution-debunked/

Fateswebb ago

Oh bullshit. Evolution is widely accepted and proven. Only religious nutbags think otherwise.

Angelis_Solaris ago

You're assigning a religious motive instead of giving a real argument in defense of evolution. Lazy.

The theory of evolution when defined as "creation of new body plans over time" has never been experimentally demonstrated or observed to happen. You'll never find it no matter how hard you look. There are some mutations that make weird nonfunctional body parts (which nature would never select for) by turning off genes or turning on the wrong genes in the wrong areas. The genetic information was already there.

Many scientists dissent from the theory of evolution as being a viable explanation for the complexity of life and have publicly signed a letter saying so.

https://dissentfromdarwin.org

As Michael Egnor succinctly explained:

"We know intuitively that Darwinism can accomplish some things, but not others. The question is what is that boundary? Does the information content in living things exceed that boundary? Darwinists have never faced those questions. They've never asked scientifically, can random mutation and natural selection generate the information content in living things."

(Dr. Michael Egnor is a professor of neurosurgery and pediatrics at State University of New York, Stony Brook)

It's a common materialist argument that the only people who don't conform to materialist dogma are religious nutbags as you've so carelessly demonstrated in your comment. You're just as religious I'm afraid. It takes a lot of faith to believe evolution without knowing exactly how mutations can possibly produce a functionally integrated system by a step-by-step process.

There are three main lines of evidence against evolution defined as natural selection acting on random mutations:

1. Complex Specified Information (sequentially specific and completely arbitrary information content in bio-molecular systems such as the DNA code, which can't arise from natural processes)

2. Irreducibly Complex Bio-molecular Machines (Nanomachines such as the Flagellum which cannot function in any conceivable way if any single piece is missing, leaving functionless garbage which Nature would never select for---thus, evolution cannot produce those features)

3. The fossil record (and specifically, the Cambrian Explosion -- MANY new body plans appearing in Cambrian strata with no evidence of precursor species, and all within a geologically short time period--too short for evolution to produce even one completely new body plan let alone thousands)

Friend, re-evaluate your stance and feel free to check the sources I've given you. Read them thoroughly if you want to learn what the scientists are currently debating.

Fateswebb ago

Your bullshit response starts with a lie

Yes evolution has been observedband has occurred during our lifetime.... Nylonase.

Also it's proven by the fossil record you guys like to claim it's incomplete but we do have complete transitions.. your argument is based on lies and incomplete information.

Angelis_Solaris ago

Yes, that is a common materialist argument which is completely unsubstantiated with a few exceptions. There are SOME links that look like "transitions," but in most cases, there are none. The excuse? "Our evidence didn't fossilize."

Also, might I point out that even if evolution did occur, human created transhumanism would still be unnatural as humans are forcing changes nature would have never selected for. There is nothing natural about that.

Fateswebb ago

🙄 you're trying to convince yourself.. I already know the truth, since I don't have a religion that I have to make the true world line up to its much easier to see the actual truth, because I don't have to compromise each to cram them into both working..... 🙄

Ditch the religion mind control dude ..

Angelis_Solaris ago

Well I'm sorry you're so dedicated to atheism that you cannot accept any principled objections to your pet theory.

Fateswebb ago

Lol I'm dedicated to logic and truth, actually I'm not atheist I'm agnostic... Creationism if it was a thing, is long gone and not some dude in the sky that reads our minds. Ya know.... There could have been a creator and still afterwards have been evolution.. it just doesn't jive with the stories told in the Bible, most of which were based on astrology anyway...

Angelis_Solaris ago

Sorry for assuming you're atheist, I thought either atheist or agnostic but went with atheist. I would just point out that the Bible was not based on astrology, but constantly condemns astrology and other pagan practices in its pages, which you'll see if you read it.There very well could still be evolution directed by a creator. But the Intelligent Design argument is an inference from observable evidence and not an inference from a religious text, and I personally find it unlikely that God used evolution to create and develop life although some ID theorists do believe in different types of evolution such as guided evolution, front-loaded evolution, limited evolution/adaptation, and common descent. What all ID arguments have in common is that intelligent input was needed to create the first life and very likely was needed to create many subsequent organisms. Some suggest a constant influx of information to sustain life's systems or to evolve them in a guided fashion.

Fateswebb ago

Dude you can line up every major even in the Bible with astrology.. literally. For instance Easter happens right at the spring solstace, the twelve disciples are actually stars. The three kings are Orion's belt and they follow the brightest star (Sirius) just like the Bible says right up until the son or uhhhhh SUN is born.. (this is when the days stop getting shorter and start getting longer.. hence the SUN IS BORN... Dude there is a lot more but uh.... Yes it is too based on astrology every single bit of it actually. The Virgin Mary.. the baby Jesus. His birthday Easter.. the Passover etc. ALL OF IT CAN BE ECPLAINED BY ASTROLOGY OR THE STARS.......

Angelis_Solaris ago

Anything can be "explained" by astrology or the stars. That's why so many people believe in astrology. It's a theory which can fit any evidence, which makes it worthless as a scientific theory. As a religious belief, it's simply wrong. Also, the wise men did not follow the brightest star; they followed a new star which appeared in the West. Easter is a pagan holiday which has become Christianized thanks to the Catholic Church---it is not the birth of Jesus and Easter is not a holiday of Christian origin---neither is Christmas. The three kings are Orion's belt? Because there are three? That's arbitrary, there are millions of sets of three stars in the sky and millions of events on earth that happen in three. I don't believe son and sun sound the same in Greek or Hebrew, they aren't interchangeable. Jesus Christ never claimed to be associated with the sun or any star. He didn't say salvation comes from Sol or the stars. He condemned astrology. I'm not sure why a book about astrology would condemn astrology?

Fateswebb ago

Oh bullshit Christianity is stolen from other religions.

Dozens of other religions before Christianity had a virgin Mary, 12 disciples, a son that dies and is reborn, three kings that follow the son, etc etc the entire thing is stolen from other religions and is based on the stars. NOT HOROSCOPES LITERALLY THE ACTUAL STARS.

Angelis_Solaris ago

There is no pagan religion past or present which has had a son who gives up his life to save mankind from their sins. All the pagan gods were killed or died involuntarily. 12 is just a number and is not proof of any kind of a link, like I said before and you ignored. There is heavy historical evidence that Jesus Christ was a real person and the accounts of the 4 gospels have been shown to be authentic. "They condemned astrology because they didn't want you to realize that's what they used to fabricate the entire thing." That is a huge stretch, I can't imagine anyone believing in astrology writing a book based on astrology and then condemning astrology in that book.....do you realize how illogical that is? You have not answered my previous objections either but have conceded them. I'll add this also: there were not three wisemen in the Bible. The Catholic Church (a pagan source) invented that tradition. The Bible only speaks about wise men from the east bringing gifts. Please add more compelling evidence or give up. As it stands, you've provided nothing of substance.

Fateswebb ago

You're so full of shit man.

And it's proven by your first paragraph where you claim I didn't read your previous post and then prove you didn't read mine and made assumptions.

I didn't say anything about pagan Gods not one single time. I have never once used the word pagan. And even more.... I never said one time that anyone died for sins. That something else you interjected upon me. There is no proof of Jesus ever existing that's another rlie you make.

And again you pretend like when someone has written a book that is based on the stars that is telling you how the universe was made by an imaginary man in the sky, somehow that they would want you to know it's all a lie and based on the stars. A completely idiotic notion that even an 8 year old could see through. Somehow you think someone that's lying would want you to know that they are fucking lying... 🙄 Based on that I'm done destroyung you in debate because I have clearly won, and you have had to result to lying and putting words in my mouth and ignoring completely obvious things, and also insisting on total bullshit lies like there's proofJesus was real... when quite the opposite is true.. and also I'm done talking about it because you're just plain fucking stupid. And I hate picking on retarded kids enjoy your mind control ya nitwit.

Angelis_Solaris ago

"I didn't say anything about pagan Gods not one single time. I have never once used the word pagan." Astrology is paganism. The popular claim is that the Bible is based on paganism. You're claiming it's based on astrology, which is an ancient pagan system---the only way you wouldn't know that is because you haven't done your research.

"I never said one time that anyone died for sins." No, I did. I was pointing out one of many fundamental differences between Christianity and pagan systems. Again, you're dodging my point because you can't counter it.

"And again you pretend like when someone has written a book that is based on the stars that is telling you how the universe was made by an imaginary man in the sky, somehow that they would want you to know it's all a lie and based on the stars."

Except you haven't shown that the book is based on Astrology. You've made dubious claims about similarities between common numbers and common events to try to show that it was based on the stars.....such vague similarities, which occur all the time between unrelated events, do not prove one copied from the other and the burden of proof is on YOU to support your claim of plagiarism, which you've failed to do thus far.

.....I've read the Bible and it is most certainly NOT based on the stars or astrology, or on any pagan system, as it is wildly different in its philosophies, messages, and historical veracity. The Bible is based on actual events and histories, not vague notions of foretelling using the stars. Again, why would someone write such a complex account citing historically verifiable figures and events (it's falsifiable, very unlike Astrology) and somehow base that all on star patterns (how? you haven't said), and then tell everyone that such superstitions among others are not of God? The Bible condemns many pagan practices, not just astrology---you would expect the focus to be on astrology alone if that's where the book was based. If the Bible is based on the stars, it should be extremely easy to show, and yet you're having such trouble it tends to make the uninformed reader wonder.

Fateswebb ago

Ahahah you haven't shown anything ya nit wit. All you have proven is you don't do logic at all, you don't research shit, and you have bought into the mind control. So yeah I'm done with ya dumb ass. I have no obligation to continue to make you look like a fool... I have done enough of that.