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TetrahedronOmega ago

Thank you, Letsdothis3, for highlighting Jeffrey Epstein's associates.

Regarding Epstein's Pedo Island and Lolita Express elite pedophilia ring, this is not a sideline issue for the globalist oligarchy, but rather is one of their principal means of blackmail-control over their members. It has often come out that the top members of the political and business elite are into violent and lethal pedophilia and cannibalism. Such as with the cases of the Franklin Scandal; Marc Dutroux; the Finders; Jimmy Savile and the British royalty; Haut de la Garenne; the Texas Youth Commission; etc. Just to name a few such cases that have come to light.

For those who are interested in extensive scholarly documentation regarding elite Satanism and its practice by the globalist oligarchy, see under the heading "The New World Order: Government's Attempt at Autoapotheosis", pp. 87-98 of my following article, being sure to read the footnotes, since much of the information on this is contained within said footnotes:

  • James Redford, "The Physics of God and the Quantum Gravity Theory of Everything", Social Science Research Network (SSRN), Sept. 10, 2012 (orig. pub. Dec. 19, 2011), 186 pp., doi:10.2139/ssrn.1974708, archive.org/download/ThePhysicsOfGodAndTheQuantumGravityTheoryOfEverything/Redford-Physics-of-God.pdf , purl.org/redford/physics-of-god , webcitation.org/74HMsJGbP .

My foregoing article concerns physicist and mathematician Prof. Frank J. Tipler's Omega Point cosmology and the Feynman-DeWitt-Weinberg quantum gravity/Standard Model Theory of Everything (TOE), which is a proof (i.e., mathematical theorem) of God's existence per the known laws of physics (viz., the Second Law of Thermodynamics, General Relativity, and Quantum Mechanics). Tipler's Omega Point cosmology has been extensively peer-reviewed and published in a number of the world's leading physics and science journals. However, it also analyzes the societal implications of said, particularly the implications of the exponential advancement of technology and hence also the coming radical life-extension technologies (i.e., transhumanism) in light of a world dominated by a callous oligarchy.

70times7 ago

The concept of man being gods and becoming ever-more Godlike is simply traditional Christianity, going all the way back to Jesus’s teachings (e.g., see John 10:34), that of Paul and the other Epistlers, and that of the Church Fathers. In traditional Christian theology, this is known as apotheosis, theosis or divinization.

This is utter nonsense Redford.

suave200 ago

Gnosticism taught that man may become a god. It persists is secret societies today and includes Mormonism whose first 5 “prophets/presidents” were Freemasons. It was a basic teaching of Joseph Smith who set up a Freemason lodge in navou, Illinois prior to his death when the populace turned on him after he had the navou printing press burned down. Not even other Freemasons in the crowd would help him when he called out the Masonic call for help, “my lord my god is there no help for the widows son”. If your a mason, get out. If your not a mason, stay out.

TetrahedronOmega ago

70times7 wrote:

The concept of man being gods and becoming ever-more Godlike is simply traditional Christianity, going all the way back to Jesus’s teachings (e.g., see John 10:34), that of Paul and the other Epistlers, and that of the Church Fathers. In traditional Christian theology, this is known as apotheosis, theosis or divinization.

This is utter nonsense Redford.

And yet it's perfectly true. The full paragraph of my writing that you're quoting from runs thus:

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The concept of man being gods and becoming ever-more Godlike is simply traditional Christianity, going all the way back to Jesus's teachings (e.g., see John 10:34), that of Paul and the other Epistlers, and that of the Church Fathers. In traditional Christian theology, this is known as apotheosis, theosis or divinization. For many examples of these early teachings, see the article "Divinization (Christian)", Wikipedia, July 9, 2018, en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Divinization_(Christian)&oldid=849446341 , archive.is/hgVKS . Though this traditional position of Christian theology has been deemphasized for the last millennium.
""

Fiction, in order for it to sell, has to be believable; whereas reality is under no such constraint, which is why few people buy into it. Reality is the most absurd and outlandish thing that exists.

""
'T is strange,--but true; for truth is always strange;
Stranger than fiction; if it could be told,
How much would novels gain by the exchange!
How differently the world would men behold!
How oft would vice and virtue places change!
The new world would be nothing to the old,
If some Columbus of the moral seas
Would show mankind their souls' antipodes.

What 'antres vast and deserts idle' then
Would be discover'd in the human soul!
What icebergs in the hearts of mighty men,
With self-love in the centre as their pole!
What Anthropophagi are nine of ten
Of those who hold the kingdoms in control
Were things but only call'd by their right name,
Caesar himself would be ashamed of fame.
""
--Lord George Gordon Noel Byron (1788-1824), Don Juan, Canto XIV, Stanza 101.

The naturally-evolved Jaynesian demons seek to distance people from genuine knowledge of God so that the demons may instead falsely present themselves as God. Among many permutations of this, it often manifests as various forms of fear-based irrational beliefs. Demons are quite real, they however exist as naturally-evolved Minskian agent subset programs operating on the wet-computer of the human brain. For more on this, see my following article:

  • James Redford, "Societal Sadomasochism", Free State Project Forum, May 31, 2018, web.archive.org/web/20190419171853/forum.freestateproject.org/index.php?topic=28925.0 , archive.is/Flah8 , megalodon.jp/2019-0420-0219-34/forum.freestateproject.org/index.php?topic=28925.0 .

70times7 ago

Then allow me to narrow the objection for a more clear rebuttal from you.

The concept of man being gods and becoming ever-more Godlike is simply traditional Christianity, going all the way back to Jesus’s teachings

The concept of man "being gods" dates back far beyond Jesus rebuking of the pharisees quoted in John 10:34

In the garden of Eden the serpent told Eve she would become like God. Genesis 3: 4-5

And she shows to walk that path.

Thousands of years before "Jesus teachings"

TetrahedronOmega ago

70times7 wrote:

Then allow me to narrow the objection for a more clear rebuttal from you.

The concept of man being gods and becoming ever-more Godlike is simply traditional Christianity, going all the way back to Jesus’s teachings

The concept of man "being gods" dates back far beyond Jesus rebuking of the pharisees quoted in John 10:34

In the garden of Eden the serpent told Eve she would become like God. Genesis 3: 4-5

And she chose to walk that path. To godlikeness.

 

Thousands of years before "Jesus teachings"

The entire point of Christianity is for us mortals to become immortal gods in Heaven, i.e., Heavenly saints; divine angels. As I wrote:

""

The concept of man being gods and becoming ever-more Godlike is simply traditional Christianity, going all the way back to Jesus's teachings (e.g., see John 10:34), that of Paul and the other Epistlers, and that of the Church Fathers. In traditional Christian theology, this is known as apotheosis, theosis or divinization. For many examples of these early teachings, see the article "Divinization (Christian)", Wikipedia, July 9, 2018, en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Divinization_(Christian)&oldid=849446341 , archive.is/hgVKS . Though this traditional position of Christian theology has been deemphasized for the last millennium.

""

The Jaynesian gods of old--who were never actually gods, but rather presented themselves to humans as such--lied to mankind about the gaining of self-consciousness. There was never any serpent in the Garden of Eden. Rather, the image of the serpent was used by the false gods in order to scare humans regarding the process of gaining greater self-consciousness.

The naturally-evolved Jaynesian gods of old--i.e., the demons--seek to distance people from genuine knowledge of God so that the demons may instead falsely present themselves as God. Among many permutations of this, it often manifests as various forms of fear-based irrational beliefs. Demons are quite real, they however exist as naturally-evolved Minskian agent subset programs operating on the wet-computer of the human brain. For more on this, see my following article:

  • James Redford, "Societal Sadomasochism", Free State Project Forum, May 31, 2018, web.archive.org/web/20190419171853/forum.freestateproject.org/index.php?topic=28925.0 , archive.is/Flah8 , megalodon.jp/2019-0420-0219-34/forum.freestateproject.org/index.php?topic=28925.0 .

The Torah is itself quite evil in many places, such as requiring any Israelite picking up sticks on a Sabbath to be stoned to death (see Numbers 15:32-36; Exodus 31:12-17; 35:1-3). No one alive today actually believes in much of the Torah laws, and there is quite rightly no place on Earth where it would be legal to practice many of them. These days no Jew is lethally stoning another Jew for gathering wood on a Saturday.

The only thing morally God cares about, in a human context, is that we treat others as we would like others to treat us (viz., Luke 10:25-28; Matthew 19:19; 22:36-40; Mark 12:28-34; Matthew 7:12; Luke 6:31; John 15:12,17; 13:15,34,35; 1 John 3:11,12,23; 4:11,20,21; 1 John 2:10; Romans 13:8-10; Galatians 5:13,14; 1 Corinthians 13:1-13). For more on this, see Sec. 7.4.2: "God’s Relation to the Old Testament", pp. 46-47 and Sec. 7.4.4: "The Soteriology of Existence", pp. 50-53 of my following article:

  • James Redford, "The Physics of God and the Quantum Gravity Theory of Everything", Social Science Research Network (SSRN), Sept. 10, 2012 (orig. pub. Dec. 19, 2011), 186 pp., doi:10.2139/ssrn.1974708, archive.org/download/ThePhysicsOfGodAndTheQuantumGravityTheoryOfEverything/Redford-Physics-of-God.pdf , purl.org/redford/physics-of-god , webcitation.org/74HMsJGbP .

My foregoing article concerns physicist and mathematician Prof. Frank J. Tipler's Omega Point cosmology and the Feynman-DeWitt-Weinberg quantum gravity/Standard Model Theory of Everything (TOE), which is a proof (i.e., mathematical theorem) of God's existence per the known laws of physics (viz., the Second Law of Thermodynamics, General Relativity, and Quantum Mechanics). Tipler's Omega Point cosmology has been extensively peer-reviewed and published in a number of the world's leading physics and science journals. However, it also analyzes the societal implications of said, particularly the implications of the exponential advancement of technology and hence also the coming radical life-extension technologies (i.e., transhumanism) in light of a world dominated by a callous oligarchy.

70times7 ago

You did not address your claim that was proved false. Of the time period you claimed was the starting point.

You gave no rebuttal.

TetrahedronOmega ago

70times7 wrote:

You did not address your claim that was proved false. Of the time period you claimed was the starting point.

You gave no rebuttal.

I do not know what you are referring to.

--TetrahedronOmega

70times7 ago

The concept of man being gods and becoming ever-more Godlike is simply traditional Christianity, going all the way back to Jesus’s teachings

It has been proven to you the idea of becoming gods predates your claim of its origins "Jesus’s teachings"

That is a 100% false, inaccurate statement.

Why you are doubling down on something so easily remedied, speaks volumes to your character. For the worse sir.

TetrahedronOmega ago

70times7 wrote:

The concept of man being gods and becoming ever-more Godlike is simply traditional Christianity, going all the way back to Jesus’s teachings

It has been proven to you the idea of becoming gods predates your claim of its origins in "Jesus’s teachings"

Yours is a 100% false, inaccurate statement.

Why you are doubling down on something so easily remedied, speaks volumes to your character. For the worse sir.

Your great struggle is with language itself, a struggle which you seem determined to lose at.

Here is what I actually wrote:

""

The concept of man being gods and becoming ever-more Godlike is simply traditional Christianity, going all the way back to Jesus's teachings (e.g., see John 10:34), that of Paul and the other Epistlers, and that of the Church Fathers. In traditional Christian theology, this is known as apotheosis, theosis or divinization. For many examples of these early teachings, see the article "Divinization (Christian)", Wikipedia, July 9, 2018, en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Divinization_(Christian)&oldid=849446341 , archive.is/hgVKS . Though this traditional position of Christian theology has been deemphasized for the last millennium.

""

In other words, I was writing within the context of Christianity, of which movement started with Jesus Christ. Hence, within the context of the movement of Christianity as founded by Jesus Christ, it is not possible to go earlier than Jesus Christ.

If one wishes to actually obtain veridical understanding into the most crucial fields of sapient knowledge, then I have made it as easy as possible for one to do so via my own writings. My below articles explain to people (1) theological ethics and soteriology in a comprehensive and logically-coherent manner; (2) how the known laws of physics prove God's existence while demonstrating the exacting and extensive consilience of the New Testament with said physical laws; (3) the nature of God in light of said physical laws; (4) the End Time, the Tribulation, the Second Coming of Jesus Christ, the foundation of Heaven on Earth, and the universal resurrection of the dead in light of said physical laws; and (5) the End Time in light of the history of the globalist oligarchy's self-termed New World Order world government and world religion agenda.

Item No. 1 is important vis-à-vis salvation for those who maintain that they already believe in Jesus Christ's Godhead. Items Nos. 2-5 are important in letting atheists, believers in other religions, and nominal ersatz "Christians" know that God as described by the New Testament does exist and that the New Testament is true. Items Nos. 2-5 are additionally important in giving believers in Christ a much deeper understanding of God and of the End Time, so that they may be strengthened in their faith during the events to come.

My following articles distill all of the most important aspects of veridical human knowledge into a comprehensive, coherent and unified whole: from theology, physics, science, ethics, legal theory, political theory, economics, sociology, evolutionary psychology, epistemology to history.

  • James Redford, "The Physics of God and the Quantum Gravity Theory of Everything", Social Science Research Network (SSRN), Sept. 10, 2012 (orig. pub. Dec. 19, 2011), 186 pp., doi:10.2139/ssrn.1974708, archive.org/download/ThePhysicsOfGodAndTheQuantumGravityTheoryOfEverything/Redford-Physics-of-God.pdf , purl.org/redford/physics-of-god .

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    James Redford, "Video of Profs. Frank Tipler and Lawrence Krauss's Debate at Caltech: Can Physics Prove God and Christianity?", Apr. 18, 2019, pastebin.com/6bZDc7rB , archive.is/uHEyL , megalodon.jp/2019-0423-0435-52/pastebin.com/6bZDc7rB .

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    James Redford, "Jesus Is an Anarchist", Social Science Research Network (SSRN), Dec. 4, 2011 (orig. pub. Dec. 19, 2001), 60 pp., doi:10.2139/ssrn.1337761, archive.org/download/JesusIsAnAnarchist/Redford-Jesus-Is-an-Anarchist.pdf , www.freezepage.com/1560442613QRSDHGPCAM .

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    James Redford, "Libertarian Anarchism Is Apodictically Correct", Social Science Research Network (SSRN), Dec. 15, 2011, 9 pp., doi:10.2139/ssrn.1972733, archive.org/download/LibertarianAnarchismIsApodicticallyCorrect/Redford-Apodictic-Libertarianism.pdf , www.freezepage.com/1560442546UTKUJCKYNM .

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    James Redford, "Societal Sadomasochism", Free State Project Forum, May 31, 2018, web.archive.org/web/20190419171853/forum.freestateproject.org/index.php?topic=28925.0 , archive.is/Flah8 , megalodon.jp/2019-0420-0219-34/forum.freestateproject.org/index.php?topic=28925.0 .

70times7 ago

Be a liar. Free will.

29again ago

And so now we all die. Trying to become gods, we die....

TetrahedronOmega ago

Hi, 29again. You wrote:

And so now we all die. Trying to become gods, we die....

Here is how Paul put it in 1 Corinthians 15:35-38,50-55 (New King James Version):

""

But someone will say, “How are the dead raised up? And with what body do they come?” Foolish one, what you sow is not made alive unless it dies. And what you sow, you do not sow that body that shall be, but mere grain—perhaps wheat or some other grain. But God gives it a body as He pleases, and to each seed its own body.

...

Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; nor does corruption inherit incorruption. Behold, I tell you a mystery: We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed—in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality. So when this corruptible has put on incorruption, and this mortal has put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written: “Death is swallowed up in victory.”

“O Death, where is your sting?

O Hades, where is your victory?”

""

29again ago

WE don't become gods. WE die. We will be raised again, but we still die first. And that is not the way God intended things to be, but after the Fall in the Garden, it is the way it must be for us to enter Heaven. Satan/Lucifer is the one who deceived Eve by telling her that she would not die, and would become like God.... Both lies.

I really have problems with people who preach that WE can/do become gods.

70times7 ago

Rightfully so.

It is unbiblical.