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Time4puff ago

Great research.. I'm not sure if this was addressed. Why is Racheal listed as male on marriage registry? Also why does Tom Guinness' sister Aster comes up as male in some places?

new4now ago

It was mentioned but so far no answers

Kahlypso79 ago

I've been bothered by Mark Ronson for some reason that I havent figured out yet. But I started looking into his family background and I'd like to leave some things here seeing as we're talking about Guinness...

Guinness Affair :


Ernest Saunders :

The Guinness share trading fraud was one of the most famous British business scandals of the 1980s. Guinness shares were to be inflated in order to assist its takeover by the Scottish drinks company Distillers. Ernest Saunders, Gerald Ronson, Jack Lyons and Anthony Parnes were the perpetrators of this crime. They planned to raise the share price of the Guinness in order to win the bid of takeover of Distillers. They paid out indemnities to the companies who were part of the scheme and other awards were paid to the companies that supported them in the scheme. All four were convicted of dishonest conduct of share support in the Guinness Affair.

https://www.nytimes.com/1990/08/28/business/ex-guinness-head-guilty-in-fraud.html

Guinness directors showed 'contempt for truth' Friday, November 28, 1997 http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/34910.stm

"Mr Saunders was convicted of false accounting, theft and conspiracy, in 1990. But his five-year sentence was halved on appeal. He was released from open prison after serving only 10 months when doctors said he was suffering from Alzheimer's disease, a permanent condition. At the time of his appeal, a psychiatrist said he was unable to recall three numbers backwards and did not know who was President of the United States. Mr Saunders health subsequently improved but his advisers denied he had made a "miraculous recovery" from Alzheimer's disease, suggesting instead his illness while in prison was stress-related. Mr Saunders has since carved out a lucrative consultancy career while at the same time negotiating his £75,000 annual pension from Guinness. " Also jailed were stockbroker Anthony Parnes and tycoon Gerald Ronson, head of the Heron empire, who had agreed to buy Guinness shares as part of the illegal share-support operation.

Mr Saunders was supported by the cream of the City establishment during the Distillers bid. Guinness's lawyers were Freshfields, merchant bankers Morgan Grenfell and Henry Ansbacher were also on hand, and the brokers were Cazenove, the most blue-blooded of City firms. Lord Spens was forced to resign as Chief Executive of Henry Ansbacher - but was later acquitted of fraud.

******************************** (Seeing the relations going to HItler and the Rothschilds, the blue blooded support seems easier to understand now...)

LeoRising ago

There is a Samantha Ronson who dated Lindsey Lohan and is also a DJ: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samantha_Ronson

new4now ago

If Rachel is with the LA newspaper Chandlers, which I still can't confirm, relations in the family hard to follow, then the daughter of Otis, sister to Norman married Sir William Charles Crocker he was Head of MI5 and was a Hitler sympathizer

Many of his people working for him were double agents

Working on it, but just don't know who her Father and Mother is

Thanks for info

Kahlypso79 ago

Gerald Ronson : Gerald Maurice Ronson, CBE (born 27 May 1939) is a Jewish business tycoon and philanthropist. He is the Founding Chairman of the Jewish Community Security Trust, Vice-President of the NSPCC and President of JCoSS Ronson was appointed Commander of the Order of the British Empire (CBE) in the 2012 New Year Honours for charitable services, notwithstanding his convictions

https://www.building.co.uk/comment/a-guy-called-gerald/3081333.article Ronson is one of British construction’s most important clients, and one of British business’ most notorious figures. His company, Heron International, started as a furniture business run by his father. Ronson joined in 1954 aged 14 and became a partner in 1957. Then, by bringing the first self-service petrol stations to the UK in March 1966 and steering the business towards property development, he built it up to be one of Britain’s largest companies by the eighties. But the success was short-lived. In August 1990, Ronson was convicted of conspiracy, false accounting and theft for his part in the Guinness share-trading fraud. He was fined £5m and spent six months in prison. Not long after, Heron collapsed with debts of £1.6bn owed to 82 banks and 15,000 bondholders. Ronson says that to this day he doesn’t quite know how he pulled his life back together. Certainly, he was helped by friends in high places. He borrowed money from Bill Gates, Rupert Murdoch, communications billionaire Craig McCaw and other wealthy acquaintances to accumulate enough capital to get back into the game.

Gerald Ronson Vice-President of the NSPCC

Heron International https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/FC013170/officers

leads to Heron Leisure Ltd [https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/03847798](https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/03847798) - Steven Fink, Officer

http://americanhistory.si.edu/profile/1168

serves on the board of the Herb Ritts Foundation http://www.herbritts.com/#/about/foundation/

https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2225395


Jack Lyons - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Lyons_(financier) With a mutual interest in musical endeavours, Lyons became acquainted with the Conservative Party Prime Minister Edward Heath, and remained close to his successor as Conservative leader, Margaret Thatcher. Lyons was accused of having used his personal friendship with Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher to ensure the Guinness brewing group's offer for Distillers in 1986 was approved by the Office of Fair Trading. Thatcher replied to a letter from Lyons saying the matter would be passed to the minister then responsible, Paul Channon. The bid was subsequently unblocked.


Anthony Parnes, (its a work in progress..... I havent fleshed out Parnes yet...)


Kahlypso79 ago

The rest is related to how they were taking over the Entertainment Industry (Stars and Disc Jockeys...)

Relating.. The Ronsons. The Rifkinds and the Brittans. https://wideawakegentile.wordpress.com/2014/05/23/we-are-family/ Leon Brittan, Baron Brittan of Spennithorne QC, PC, DL (born 25 September 1939, North London) is a British politician, former Conservative Member of Parliament and barrister, as well as former member of the European Commission and former Home Secretary of the United Kingdom. Leon Brittan - > http://www.drsallybaker.com/tag/leon-brittan/

Sir Malcolm Leslie Rifkind, KCMG, QC, MP (born 21 June 1946) is a British Conservative Party politician and Member of Parliament for Kensington. He served in various roles as a cabinet minister under Prime Ministers Margaret Thatcher and John Major, including Secretary of State for Scotland (1986–1990), Defence Secretary (1992–1995) and Foreign Secretary (1995–1997). He is the first cousin of the Brittans Gerald Maurice Ronson, CBE (born 27 May 1939) happens to be another Jewish crook a member of the entirely Jewish white collar criminal gang the “Guinness Four” Ronson became known in the UK as one of the “Guinness Four” for his involvement in the Guinness share-trading fraud of the 1980s, along with Ernest Saunders and occasional business associates Jack Lyons and Anthony Parnes.

Nephew of businessman Gerald Ronson - > Mark Ronson. His mother Ann is a second cousin of Sir Malcolm Rifkind, the Kensington and Chelsea MP who was a key member of the Thatcher government in the Eighties and Nineties.Ann and Sir Malcolm’s grandmothers, sisters Hannah and Nechama Hoffenberg, fled Russia around the turn of the 20th Century with their cousin Rebecca Lipetz and settled in Edinburgh. When he was eight years of age. Living on the Upper West Side of Manhattan, he counted Sean Lennon, son of John Lennon and Yoko Ono, among his childhood friends. https://qctimes.com/entertainment/music/mark-ronson-is-a-collaborative-artist/article_cfb019c8-280f-5385-9a88-1cf53c76fd90.html "Mark Ronson is a "purely collaborative" artist, because he never writes anything by himself." (Yet enjoys unparalled success and fame as an artist, producer, starlet finder..)

He was married to : Joséphine de La Baume : Her French father, François, is an investment banker and the owner of the Théâtre de la Pépinière. Her Swiss mother, Anne (née Salmanowitz), is the executive director of the Marcel Bleustein-Blanchet Foundation. Her grandfather is Grégoire Salmanowitz, owner of the world’s largest freight-inspection company SGS :

SGS (Societe Generale de Surveillance) - https://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/2924309/How-the-Oil-for-Food-scandal-unfolded.html "She (Claudia Rosett ) discovered a conflict of interest between Alexander Yakovlev, a UN procurement officer, and his alleged dealings with IHC Services, a former vendor intermediary to the UN procurement department, with offices in New York and Milan, which employed his son. Investigators accused him of taking nearly $1m in bribes surrounding Oil for Food contracts and he was arrested in August. They said Mr Yakovlev also allegedly secretly solicited a bribe from Societe Generale de Surveillance SA, a company seeking an oil inspection contract under Oil for Food. The independent inquiry said: "In 1996, while responsible for the procurement of an independent oil inspection company for the [Oil for Food] Programme … [he] provided confidential bid information, internal assessments, and selection considerations to Societe Generale de Surveillance SA". Oil for Food : https://www.cfr.org/backgrounder/impact-un-oil-food-scandal "The chairman of the House International Relations Committee, Henry Hyde (R-IL), said in April that the oil-for-food scandal was a "symptom of a larger contagion that infects both procurement and oversight within the UN. Relating to Oil for Food scandal - Back to United Nations.. though they ought to be called Rape of Nations..


Back to Mark Ronson. this can go a little all over the place.. Basically.. Music stars = Witchcraft and Occultism. Which leads onto child trafficking for sacrifice and sexual abuse as rewards between perverts. I'd have to complie a lot more research into showing how where why and who.. but it may be thousands of pages and I havent finished it yet.. (LOOK AT BIANCA JAGGAR) Why would someone who's so involved with fighting against Human Trafficking (check her CV and bio) be going to a Scissor Sister concert with James Alefantis..of course, everyone is free to hang out with anyone they want.. https://www.flickr.com/photos/146343979@N02/32024092830/in/photostream/
A lot.. A LOT (how do I make that go bigger??) A FUCK LOAD OF A LOT of people confuse EVERYTHING with EVERYTHING usually shouting about Moloch, Baphomet the devil..(as if they were even the same religion..) When its mostly just uninterested bored (stupid) people playing at Thelema without knowing what they're doing.

https://variety.com/2019/music/news/adele-lady-gaga-katy-perry-mark-ronson-grammys-after-party-1203135539/

Ronson is involved with :


Elton John : Scandals about unregulated Global Surrogacy.. https://rewire.news/article/2011/01/02/elton-johns-baby-dangers-unregulated-global-surrogacy/ "He and his partner, David Furnish, have a civil union and they are a high-profile same-sex couple. When they inquired about adopting a young boy in the Ukraine, they were denied this opportunity because of Elton John’s age (over 60) and his single status; civil unions are not recognized in Ukrainian adoptions and, as such, he could not apply as a married individual" (Most of the white children involved in international trafficking come from Ukraine.. then United Kingdom (who fetch higher price because they speak english) An amazing amount of political cLout.. David Furnish, Elton John sex scandal: British media forbidden from covering couple https://globalnews.ca/news/2645974/david-furnish-elton-john-sex-scandal-british-media-forbidden-from-covering-couple/ Elton John's music is mostly written by Bernie Taupin who's a self confessed satanist and satanic references litter his songs. Elton John also bought pedo-friendly 'artwork' from Elite Pedo mo-Fos Saatchi and Saatchi..(I could write books about those two..) (dont worry.. the genitals are fuzzed out) http://www.wiki.ncac.org/Klara_And_Edda_Belly-Dancing_(photograph)


Lady Gaga : involved directly with Marina Abramovitch and has been called out in many posts for Spirit Cooking. Everyone here ought to be aware of the Watermill Center's Devil's Heaven 20th anniversary photos (organised by Robert Wilson.. supposedly an Artist.. http://www.robertwilson.com/turandot-cover) https://www.hamptons.com/The-Arts/Museum-News/18670/Lady-Gaga-Winona-Ryder-Hugh-Jackman-At-Devils.html

https://www.alamy.com/stock-photo-devils-heaven-the-20th-annual-watermill-center-summer-benefit-featuring-70847795.html However, not a lot of people have seen what else was going on at this 'party'..as they only stick to the 'cannibalism' """Artwork""". https://assets.rbl.ms/2568738/980x.jpg https://assets.rbl.ms/2568746/980x.jpg This was the music show going on... https://www.gossipcentral.com/.a/6a00d83453b9ca69e20192ac41043e970d-pi
(these girls are just a barrel of laughs.. https://images.shazam.com/coverart/t60927904-b74854502_s400.jpg - > https://images2.laweekly.com/imager/seeing-red-with-the-voluptuous-horror-of-k/u/original/2166120/5101394.t.jpg - > https://c2.staticflickr.com/8/7139/7758752034_97fcf1b0e1_b.jpg . . etc etc etc..

So why were there unaccompanied young.. young girls.. at that party.. https://anonhq.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/gagaabramovic-768x388.jpg (it may just be the pedohunter in me talking, but she looks..scared?.. like girls near Creepy Joe scared...) Lady Gaga recently made a video with Joe Biden..hang on.. https://www.aei.org/publication/an-open-letter/print/ This letter written after the school massacre in Belkan sending an 'open letter' to the UN...was signed by.. Helga Trejo. Joe Biden Bernard Kouchner (if you dont know those names yet..oh.. even John McNoname creeped in there..will have to extract and complie on all these names..)

Lady Gaga also made a music video called Bad Romance where Sex trafficking is the predominant theme.
http://www.lelalondon.com/2010/09/v-magazine-gaga-marc-debbie-chloe-and-more/ -> Photo shoot with Lady Gaga (dressed as HECATE. That is NOT the statue of Liberty.) and Marina Abro... Lady Gaga protecting R Kelly (after collaborating with him for a song) in 2013 AFTER it was known he was a serial pedophile rapist.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVDvBXkdM40 Lady Gaga being a total hypocritical attention whore trying to save her own worthless skin.. https://globalnews.ca/news/4834106/lady-gaga-apologizes-collaborating-with-r-kelly/ 3 DAYS AFTER STILL defending him.. https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/8137646/lady-gaga-defended-r-kelly-sex-crime-allegations/ What a turnaround.. (however.. it must be known also.. Celine Dion defended R Kelly.. and she's gone 100 percent evil Witch.. she's just missing a gingerbread house..http://www.ncregister.com/blog/armstrong/exorcist-warns-about-celine-diones-occult-childrens-clothing) Lady Gaga.. https://www.tmz.com/photos/2019/02/10/2019-grammy-awards-behind-the-scenes-photos/images/2019/02/10/2019-grammy-awards-behind-the-scenes-photos-2-29-jpg

USAF_Patriot ago

On the menu for her wedding day feast I fully expected to see walnut sauce. Sick bastards.

think- ago

As for her dark friend, seen in many of Rachel's pics..

It might be worthwhile to look into Hanna Liden's friends also, the ones that are mentioned in the interview you linked.

new4now ago

Good idea

I trying to find Rachel's family

Old post says she from Otis Chandler family in LA

I looking but can't find her , it's getting personal lol

think- ago

it's getting personal lol

;-)

new4now ago

Her name isn't Rachel

She was born out of wedlock

She's a he

She was picked out of cabbage patch

It's killing me lol

shewhomustbeobeyed ago

Please fix the listverse link in body of submission:

This should work - https://listverse.com/2015/02/05/10-strange-stories-about-the-fascinating-guinness-family/

Thank you for this.

new4now ago

Thanks , fixed on both

WeWillWin233 ago

Fucking rich nerds.

Jfkthrowaway1 ago

She has pictures with alot of celebs as well. Eminem for one.

think- ago

Thank you so much for this post, @new4now.

Before the comments start rolling in....you might want to self-delete and repost due to the spelling of Hanna Liden's name in the headline - no biggie, but unfortunately, we won't be able to find the post in the future when the spelling isn't correct.

Thank you! :-)

new4now ago

Had hard time just putting this up lol

Dyslexia bad today, will give it a go later sry

think- ago

Never mind, @new4now. I have typos all the time in my headlines. ;-)

new4now ago

Bad day for it, checked body but not title

It should still come up with box checked

think- ago

Hey, no worries, @new4now.

new4now ago

Not for you lol

Hate days my wires cross bad

new4now ago

Thanks

think- ago

Kindly welcome.

Pollycracker ago

I guess they're set to document the genocide.