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sore_ass_losers ago

I just looked through all 8 parts (where is 6?) and didn't see this mentioned: Subud got a lot of publicity several years ago when the resemblance between former President Obama and the founder was noted:

http://www.truthandaction.org/wp-content/uploads/obama_cult_of_subud.png

darkknight111 ago

http://centerforaninformedamerica.com/inside-the-lc-the-strange-but-mostly-true-story-of-laurel-canyon-and-the-birth-of-the-hippie-generation-part-xii/

Subud is connected to the Laurel Canyon music scene via one of the Byrds.

Subud —> Byrds —> David Geffen, Paul Rothschild, Charles Manson.

UCLA is absolutely INFESTED with CIA.

Surviveandheal15 ago

Glad you saw that, Madsen also mentioned the Byrds connection in his book, I should have written about it

darkknight111 ago

https://search.wikileaks.org/?q=subud

Pay dirt.

I suspect some of those Vietnamese refugees ended up getting trafficked. After all, the ports are a chief route for sex trafficking.

Factfinder2 ago

Excellent lead, DK.

The Wikileaks Subud search included this cable, which lists Tarzie Vittachi as a Subud member contact at the United Nations regarding a request for transport of South Vietnamese refugees to Indonesia.


Varindra Tarzie Vittachi was the Deputy Executive Director of External Relations of the United Nations Children's Fund (UNICEF). Here he is in a UN World Chronicle video interview: https://www.unmultimedia.org/avlibrary/asset/2109/2109913/

He was one of Subud leader Bapak's assistants. From "A Life in Subud" by Raymond van Sommers: http://www.undiscoveredworldspress.com/lifestwo.pdf Archive:

On the spiritualside Bapak nominated two North American helpers to work besideISC in Toronto and four others to advise Varindra Vittachi, whowould be ‘Bapak’s assistant on organisational matters.

darkknight111 ago

Do you think its possible this cult had involvement in the Vietnam War? Some of those countries are smack dab in the Golden Triangle, a MAJOR drug and sex trafficking (half of the victims being underage).

9217 ago

Fantastic work.

Researcher @sharpedge42 on twitter has done an excellent amount of work on Subud over the last few years as well. They primarily post on twitter. You can find all their posts on Subud here - and archived here.

Acording to them, Subud was also linked to the McMartin case.

I also wrote about Subud and it's links to Gurdjieff, John G. Bennet, Esalen, etc in this post.

Surviveandheal15 ago

Thanks for those links, 9217, take care!

9217 ago

Wanted to add that it's fascinating to see the links to the CIA that you've documented. Were you aware of Subud's ties to British intelligence as well, via John Bennet as mentioned in my previous comment?

Overall, as a take-away from all of this, the fact that these obscure cults are the focus of so much intelligence agency attention, as well as ritual abuse, tells us that we are running into dead ends if we only look for ritual abuse where we see pentagrams and "satanism" in a typical sense. The groups involved often exist totally outside the judeo-christian aesthetic and religious symbology. #justsaying

Surviveandheal15 ago

Thanks for the link to the steemit article, I think this is a really relevant quote:

Bateson's early work took place in New Guinea and Bali. This area was also significant for its links to The Subud Cult, which influenced mystic/cult figure Gurdjieff as well as John G Bennet of British Intelligence. Gurdjieff is also of significance to RA Anon's experience, which again emphasizes the link between military intelligence, "mystical"/spiritual leaders as part of the study of various mind control projects, and ritual abuse. This is paralleled by Cult leader Marion Pettite's CIA connection and leadership in the Finders Cult, which practiced ritual abuse. One cannot separate military mind control efforts from the practice of ritual abuse, as they are deeply interconnected in many cases.

Surviveandheal15 ago

Glad to see others really digging into this link between military intelligence (apparently both US and UK, and who knows who else), and the nexus with bizzaro spiritual cults, child abuse and ritual abuse. The threads of evidence are there

9217 ago

Exactly, and if one follows the trails of connections through Gurdjieff (allegedly a Russian spy in his own right, and again, connected to Subud via UK intel man J.G. Bennett), we see connections to equally obscure locations like Bartlesville Oklahoma, which has a long history of ritual abuse allegations for such a tiny town. <- Forgive me for throwing more steemit links your way, but from one thorough researcher to another, I want to back up your findings by indicating where else the connections can lead.

9217 ago

You too!

Surviveandheal15 ago

Thanks for making this sticky Vindicator!! Glad folks appreciate it!

Vindicator ago

This is an incredible amount of research you've put together here, @SurviveandHeal. I am going to give the first installment the "Important" flair and sticky it, to encourage people to dig in. It's well worth the read. An excellent dive into much of our past research, as well as new stuff to investigate.

Surviveandheal15 ago

Thanks so much Vindicator!!

Surviveandheal15 ago

Thanks so much Vindicator, I really appreciate it! Definitely wanted to get this info out to this forum of folks, figured that was the best bet for this information. Thanks for all your work!!

Vindicator ago

The way you formatted with the cross links between submissions made it really easy to read. A challenging task well done. :-)

Surviveandheal15 ago

Thanks very much Vindicator lol, and thanks again for the sticky!

allonthesameteam ago

I'm just starting to dig in on this. Well compiled.

Curious if there are any Canadian connections to observe?

Surviveandheal15 ago

Didn't see anything specifically Canadian, but that doesn't mean its not there

allonthesameteam ago

Thanks.

Wazhappenin1 ago

What can you say when doug Valentine and Wayne Madsen are mentioned in the same post?Great work never knew about the east west center, even though I read Valentine's book on the Phoenix program. Great research.

Surviveandheal15 ago

thanks!

Mumbleberry ago

The sleepers shall awaken! With bullshit it seems

Kahlypso79 ago

Fear is the mind killer.