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argosciv ago

A look at both sides to the claims against the Eberles.

Surprised nobody's come across it yet.

https://archive.is/ktevH

letsdothis3 ago

The author of that piece is John Earl of the Institute for Psychological Therapies. And here's an appeal court case for a child sex offender who wanted to use two therapists from the Institute of Therapies and whose testimonies were not allowed by the court. https://caselaw.findlaw.com/wi-court-of-appeals/1463377.html

I think we should look further into Mr. Earl and the Institute. @ angelafogo

argosciv ago

By all means. He was even a contributor to one of their books.

John Earl is a freelance journalist. He contributed research material used in The Abuse of Innocence

letsdothis3 ago

Interesting. I missed that.

argosciv ago

Yeah I bet @angleafogo did too.

She's too busy claiming that I'm defending pedophiles, to actually read the content. There's more tidbits in there too.

Example (unrelated to McMartin):

By the late 1970s and early 80s, former LAPD detective Lloyd Martin had earned a national reputation for running a fanatical campaign against homosexuals and pedophiles. During vice raids, Martin confiscated alleged child pornography and stored it in his garage at home.29 He stirred public outrage during lectures to citizen groups by showing them samples from his stockpile, referring to the boys and girls within as his "children."30 In 1981, Martin made almost $9,000 for his private "non-profit" foundation from solicitations made at such meetings.31

letsdothis3 ago

Yeah I bet @angleafogo did too.

Is that snark? Lol.

@angleafogo Here's the website of the institute http://www.ipt-forensics.com/staff/index.htm

Wakefield http://psyris.com/hollidawakefield

I am 68 years old and a licensed psychologist in Minnesota. Although in the past I provided psychotherapy for a variety of clients with a wide range of problems, my practice now is devoted to forensic issues. I consulted with attorneys in several of the high-profile day care cases in the 1980s and early 1990s. I consult with attorneys in criminal, civil, and family court cases. I have been qualified as an expert in 26 states and in Federal and Military courts.

Uh huh...

Underwager https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ralph_Underwager

Ralph Charles Underwager (28 July 1929 – 29 November 2003) was an American minister and psychologist who rose to prominence as a defense witness for adults accused of child sexual abuse in the 1980s and 1990s. Until his death in 2003, he was the director of the Institute for Psychological Therapies, which he founded in 1974. ... He was also accused of being a supporter of pedophilia because of controversial statements he made, including those in an interview to Paidika: The Journal of Paedophilia.

Underwager was a prolific defense expert for people accused of child sexual abuse. By the late 1980s, he had appeared in court on behalf of defendants in child sexual abuse cases more than 200 times in the US, Canada, Australia, New Zealand and Britain.[8] In court and in the media, Underwager claimed that 60% of women sexually abused in childhood reported that the experience was good for them [!],[9] he characterized child protection investigations as nothing less than an "assault on the family as an institution"[10] and he alleged that 75% of mothers alleging sexual abuse in custody proceedings suffered from a "severe personality disorder" that prompted them to manufacture false allegations [!!]

Psychologist Anna Salter argued that Underwager and Wakefield's claims as outlined above demonstrated "systematic misrepresentations" of reputable research, and often that Underwager and Wakefield made claims contrary to their sources. Underwager later filed several unsuccessful suits against Salter who claims that it was in retaliation for her criticism of Underwager's courtroom testimony and for claiming he lied in order to help child molesters evade punishment. Salter also claimed Underwager engaged in other threatening actions.

argosciv ago

Is that snark? Lol.

Absolutely. If she's going to ignore the useful info and accuse me of condoning pedophilia or defending pedophiles, I'm gonna be at least a little snarky.

The bottom of the Underwager wiki page is also worth reading.

Could be disingenuous from them, though.