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think- ago

The allegations against the new minister, Damares Alves:

Since the Minister of Women, Family and Human Rights, Damares Alves was apppointed by the government of President Jair Bolsonaro, a wound afflicted 5 years ago burned again in the Xingu. [Xingu = native Brazilean tribe]

The Kamayurá village, in the center of the Indian reservation in the north of Mato Grosso, is the birthplace of 20-year-old Kajutiti Lulu Kamayurá. Damares presents her as her adopted daughter.

The adoption, however, was never formalized legally. The condition in which the 6-year-old girl was taken from the village is a source of controversy among the Indians.

Lulu was born on May 20, 1998, according to her birth record. Epoch went to the Xingu to hear of the kamayurás the story of the girl who was raised by her paternal grandmother, Tanumakaru, a lady with cracked, blind eye.

They claim that Damares took the girl irregularly from the tribe. Some details are lost in the memory of the Indians, but there is a thread that unites the report of all of them.

Lulu left the village under pretense of doing a dental treatment in the city and never returned. They say that Damares and Márcia Suzuki, friend and right-hand man of the minister, presented themselves as missionaries in the village. They said they were worried about the girl's oral health.

"I cried, and Lulu was crying too for leaving her grandmother. Marcia led the way. He said he was going to send her back, that when he went on vacation he would send her here."

Asked if she knew, at the time of Lulu's departure, that she would not return, she was straightforward:" Never."

Minister Damares Alves (...) said she was "prepared to answer the questions ... about our children, about my daughter and about families."

In Brasilia, however, she refused to give an interview and only partially answered the magazine's 14 questions.

"All the rights of Lulu Kamayurá were respected. No law was violated. Her biological family visits her regularly.

Uncles, cousins ​​and brothers who left with her from the village reside in Brasilia. Everyone has an excellent emotional relationship."

We asked why Damares did not return the child to the village after treatment. "Lulu Kamayura has already returned to the village. She left the place with her family and never lost touch with her biological relatives."

The question of not having formally adopted Lulu was ignored.

Damares's advisor says the minister met Lulu in Brasilia, not the village, as the Indians say."

https://epoca.globo.com/a-historia-de-lulu-kamayura-india-criada-como-filha-pela-ministra-damares-alves-23416132

sore_ass_losers ago

Thanks for posting this. So this minister is accused of being a client of indigenous child trafficking networks, you might say, in adopting an indigenous child.

SB was an anarchist, so a lefty I imagine, but I take her son's comments to mean she was more concerned about abuse than politics.

I've wondered if Bolsonaro is an analogue of Trump could all this publicity and arrest of JoD represent a 'draining of the swamp'? JoD was previously a national treasure. However the connection here is that one of Bolsonaro's ministers might have done something shady.

think- ago

So this minister is accused of being a client of indigenous child trafficking networks, you might say, in adopting an indigenous child.

Not so much a client I suppose, more like a bad actor herself.

SB was an anarchist, so a lefty I imagine

Yep, she was a leftie, and I don't agree with all of her political views, but this isn't about party politics. She is a survivor of childhood sexual abuse, and also of rape by a stranger, she dedicated her life to fight perps.

I've wondered if Bolsonaro is an analogue of Trump could all this publicity and arrest of JoD represent a 'draining of the swamp'?

1) I don't believe that Trump is 'draining the swamp', not in the sense of taking elite pedos down. (I'm non-partisan, and not into Q).

2) Bolsonero is an asshole imo.

3) It seems that the MP of the state John of God has been operating in supports the investigation. Not sure whether he just pretends, or might be genuine.

@SandHog

SandHog ago

I'm way behind on this particular case and am not up to speed on the major players but from the little I have read it seems like quite the extensive trafficking ring. I suspect the investigation will get derailed or stonewalled at some point by corrupt or complicit officials but hopefully it doesn't. Looks like there are tons of leads that need to be followed up on like where were the children being trafficked to? Were they sending them to a hub in another country and then disseminating them from there?

Maybe those answers are already known and I am just not aware. I haven't had a chance to dig into this yet.

think- ago

Maybe those answers are already known and I am just not aware.

The only thing we know is that some of the 'guides' in Europe, the US, and Australia, who offered tours to Brazil, seem to have been involved in the trafficking ring.

And sadly, I think you're right, that the investigation might be stonewalled at some point.

sore_ass_losers ago

Whoa, the guides were involved with the trafficking ring? I missed that part.

I actually spent some time researching guides websites. I guess they need to find a new line of work now.

A comment on CDAN says it's two airplane flights and a 6-hour bus ride to the Casa. (Perhaps the first flight mentioned would be to nearby capital city Brasilia.) I was wondering if there's a VIP version (probably charter a helicopter). I was also musing, and this is pure speculation, if there could be VIP tours with an afternoon at the baby farm.

think- ago

I was also musing, and this is pure speculation, if there could be VIP tours with an afternoon at the baby farm.

Yep. Me too. I mean, do we suppose that Clinton or Naomi Cambpell just mingled with the crowd in order to see John of God? I don't think so.

sore_ass_losers ago

'VIP tours with an afternoon at the baby farm'

What bothered me is the seeming disconnect between going to a holy place, dressing in white, and getting healed, yet you know the healer is a fake, yet you're there to abuse sex slaves.

This comment and link by @permindex puts it all into perspective for me https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/3020108/16663202:

I can tell you from my own experience there and others' who i knew, he used black magic to make many people sick after seeing him, all under the guise of "healing". I and my friend are still sick to this day. You can read more about it here. http://entity-clearing.net/john_of_god.html

At the link:

I do acknowledge that Jog (the entity) really does let his truth be known if we are willing to just see… he is described as an entity apparently by his own instructions. The whole organization is clear that it is entities that are doing the work. “The entity known as John of god” is how he is described. It is the Humans who have interpreted that or fell for the belief that he/they are of the Light, so we can only blame ourselves if we refuse to see what is in front of us (and I fell for this too).

Hard as it may be to believe but the Dark Entities are fully capable of doing healing too. It is a dangerous assumption to believe that healing only comes from the Light. The Dark has their own agenda which is to prevent your spiritual growth and that is the main reason why they do this… to make sure you are bound tight by invisible Contracts, Implants, Vows, Oaths, Allegiances, being on your committees and councils, and anything else they can get away with in return for the healing. By consenting to the Healing you also consented to all the rest.

...

This is only my humble opinion but I think this is also the reason that people shrug off or discard all the horror stories that have been coming out of the John of god Casa for years… they say to themselves “well… see the healing that is taking place, so he must be working with God!” And then they turn a blind eye to the horrors, and even continue to take tours of people to see Jog, so convinced are they that they are helping in the real God’s work that they block out the Dark truth that is right before their eyes.

...

Consent is the process of giving permission to Jog/Reptilians to have access and control of your existence. Your real guides and Angels can protect you up to and until that moment when you give consent to Jog to do as he wills. At that moment your guides stand back and watch. They will still try to reach through to you to give you insights of what is actually taking place, but they do have to respect your freewill decisions.

Consent happens in several ways. The first is by entering the Casa. At that moment you walk into the Casa’s energy field which is unique unto itself. Look at it as a big dome similar to a small country with its own rules and laws.

Another way of consenting is by offering your right hand to Jog when you walk up to him. This action is intentional as it conveys all sorts of consents, subjugation, contracts, and even ownership. This is done by your own freewill choice and your guides will abide by that choice. See this as the same as going to a lawyers office and signing all sorts of documents.

You also consent and build the strength of the consent by drinking the vibrational water, and by ingesting the herbs. This gives many days of consent, during which your guides will again watch.

If you accept Jog is a trickster who utilizes all of the energy of seekers at the Casa and channels evil entities for healing at a price, it totally makes sense that well-meaning people are fooled and evil ones see a kindred spirit.

@Vindicator thought I'd flag you since we've discussed aspects of whether 'Dark Entities are fully capable of doing healing too'.

think- ago

I admit that as soon as I read the word 'reptilians', I don't take people seriously anymore. Sorry.

It would be interesting whether in Shamanic belief systems (genuine shamans, not scam artists or bad actors) 'evil entities' have also healing powers. @9217 might know about this.

I think you don't need the concept of 'black magic' or 'evil entities' to describe the negative outcome. The whole thing works like a sect / cult, with brainwashing gullible people; and the majority has been gullibe because they were desperate due to having been diagnosed with cancer or other diseases, which made them weak.

Sects and cults - think NXIVM - target people who are in a crisis situation.

@Vindicator @girlinashittycountry

sore_ass_losers ago

Yeah, sounds like David Icke. 'The Queen is a Reptilian shapeshifter.'

Most voaters heard of the Jog sex/rape scandals and thought the guy is a fake, so everything was a scam, 'there's a seeker born every minute'.

My point is if you're an evil VIP why bother with the Casa? Sex slaves are available all over. If the Casa works because gullible people are being scammed, the VIPs know Jog is a spiritual scammer, so they are not likely to be believe he can help them.


It goes deeper than that, though. NXIVM is something of a knock-off version of Scientology "tech." Rick Ross refers to Raniere as a "squirrel," which is Scientology slang for someone who uses Dianetics "tech" outside of the bounds of traditional Church of Scientology practice.

The Hidden Connection Between NXIVM And Scientology http://archive.is/BTxUf (banned domain)

Scientology "tech" is actually mostly about expelling evil entities, called "body thetans" through auditing sessions with the "e-meter", to improve mental or physical health. (No reports NXIVM did any auditing like this.)

Maybe "evil entities" is just a conceptual framework, could be "negative thoughts".

think- ago

My point is if you're an evil VIP why bother with the Casa? Sex slaves are available all over. If the Casa works because gullible people are being scammed, the VIPs know Jog is a spiritual scammer, so they are not likely to be believe he can help them.

I don't know? Abramovic maybe went there to learn a thing or two from him. Clinton is into Voodoo, so he is certainly interested in healing techniques connected to spiritualism. Naomi Campbell might just be naive. And Oprah? They might see the guy as kind of wizard.

And yes, sex slaves are available everywhere, but why not go to an 'exotic' setting, and 'enjoy' yourself there?

Maybe "evil entities" is just a conceptual framework, could be "negative thoughts".

Yes. Or what is known as 'intrusion' in psychology, when a kind of emotional imprint of the perp stays in the victim's psyche. Which is then passed on to new victims if the victims also becomes a perp later, or which is turned against themselves when they get depressed.

@Vindicator @girlinashittycountry @ASolo @letsdothis3

sore_ass_losers ago

Somehow John of god was seen as a saintly do-gooder by the general public and most seekers. Abramovic saw cool blood rituals and Clinton would see it's voodoo.

Scraping someone's eyeball, or watching it done, has a lot of perp-victim dynamics.

think- ago

SandHog ago

Up is down and down is up. That's ever the game they play.

permindex ago

I get that 'reptilians' is a turn off. But there really is a class of entities or demons that appear as snakes or dragons in the other realms, which shamans and other clairvoyants can see. It's a reality no matter how many times David Icke talks about them. When I got back from Brazil, 2 clairvoyant friends who I totally trusted told me they saw a dragon and a snake on my back and around me, soon before I started getting very ill. In my view, knowing black magic is involved helps survivors understand the source of their illness so they can find better ways to heal themselves.

think- ago

In my view, knowing black magic is involved helps survivors understand the source of their illness so they can find better ways to heal themselves.

I respect that, @permindex, if you feel it helps you.

Yes, it's the concept of 'reptilians' that always puts me off. (The whole stories about the Queen shapeshifting etc.).

Also, I am concerned about the Church doing exorcisms, since I feel they might sometimes push survivors of sexual abuse into thinking they are 'possessed' by 'demons', when they 'only' may show alters or show symptoms of PTSD.

Think of the concept of evil jinns in Islam regarding people with PTSD, which is similar.

I am sorry to hear about your illness. I hope you feel a bit better now? God bless.