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Vindicator ago

Apparently there may be more to this. An Open Secret just tweeted this thread saying Barnett was pushing the Michael Whelan Voodoo Donuts videos. A guy who apparently rented a house to Whelan just got left with huge bills when the guy took off and says he was conned. Not only is Barnett's twitter scrubbed, so is Kappy's. An Open Secret is claiming Kappy got a cut of the money raised by Whelan.

I didn't follow all this infighting closely when it started, but the account scrubbing and the fact that no one is responding to the questions...highly questionable.

@think- @sandhog @letsdothis3 @EricKaliberhall

SandHog ago

I followed all that stuff pretty closely. Open Secret aka Gabe Hoffman says Michael Whalen/Kappy/Lift The Veil are all scammers that set the whole thing up to make money. He came out and started blasting them over the voodoo doughnuts thing as did Enty from CDAN. Kappy got banned from twitter a long time ago. There was a ton of pushback against Whalen when he came out. Personally, I think Whalen was telling the truth or at least a portion of it considering Scott Cummings of CPP fame now resides in Portland and noone really knew that before he mentioned it. It's also important to note that a youtube account popped up called exploring reality popped up and started attacking the guy (LiftTheVeil) who initially interviewed Whalen along with another account called Random Rants of Ryan.

Also the kid who ran the Exploring Reality youtube account is named Kam Hoffman and he lives in Portland which really set off some alarm bells for me. Gabe and that crowd put forth a lot of effort trying to get anyone that talked to Michale Whalen off the internet.

think- ago

Personally, I think Whalen was telling the truth or at least a portion of it considering Scott Cummings of CPP fame now resides in Portland and noone really knew that before he mentioned it.

Yes. Whoever Whalen is, or what his motives were, I think the allegations are legit. Remember, we researched Voodoo Doughnuts a long time before Whalen's testimony.

@EricKaliberhall @srayzie @Shizy @Crensch @MolochHunter

SandHog ago

An important thing to keep in mind is that everyone who was attacking him was solely focused on destroying his character and made zero effort to debunk his claims. He actually made a post here back in the early days looking for info using the handle HopingToHelp. I think this was it.

think- ago

He actually made a post here back in the early days looking for info using the handle HopingToHelp. I think this was it.

The post was made by armyseer, who was a shill. I couldn't find anyone using the handle 'HopingToHelp' in your link? looks confused

@Vindicator

SandHog ago

Use the search function for 'voodoo doughnuts' and sort by oldest. Sixth one up from the bottom. It says the poster was HopingToHelp. I think maybe people in the thread thought it was an armyseer alt or maybe it linked to armyseer steemit page? I do know that HopingToHelp was the handle he used. He talked about it in an interview somewhere...maybe it was the one with Titus Frost.

Vindicator ago

@think-, Sandhog is right. That post was definitely submitted by HopingtoHelp, whom I remember as being a good user. Here it is on SearchVoat. When you click that headline, it takes you right to the deleted post. It was a direct link to a Steemit thread. Probably this one, which is being trolled by the same BadGuacamole as the Voat thread.

Looks like ArmySeer may be associated to the BadGuac account.

SandHog, do you know who BadGuacamole is?

ArmySeer claimed HopingtoHelp was a shill: https://voat.co/v/pizzagateshills/1531628

SandHog ago

SandHog, do you know who BadGuacamole is?

No, I'm only familiar with the name because they were shilling in that thread. Heh, another gem from his youtube account. Kerry B had an interesting comment under that video though. She must have been talking about Hampstead.

I've never heard of Carolyn Hamlett before.

think- ago

Ok, thank you!

Vindicator ago

I added a bunch of stuff to the above comment. This is a rats nest.

think- ago

Thanks.

think- ago

Ok, thanks, maybe I only figured it must be armyseer, since people on the thread talked about him as if he was OP.

@Vindicator, can you help?

SandHog ago

Yeah, that confused me too. Wish I knew what the link was to.

SandHog ago

Ah, thanks for clarifying that.

think- ago

and made zero effort to debunk his claims.

Indeed. You can certainly make valid claims about a shady business and not paying your bills.

Vindicator ago

Kappy is still on Twitter: https://twitter.com/KappyD5

Enty blasted Whalen about Voodoo Donuts? I never heard about that. Do we have a link?

I saw that Kam Hoffman guy has an all-seeing-eye tattoo.

I wish someone who understands all this would do a thread documenting what went down. I think all of us would like to see the whole pile of evidence to be able to get to the bottom of what is going on. All the infighting smacks of deep state disinfo fuckery, that's for sure.

SandHog ago

Enty did. Here is the post. This was around the same time AnOpenSecret was attacking him.

I have a pretty good sense of the timeline and who was involved since I was following it closely but the actual motivations of all the players is still puzzling to me. I do think that Kam is completely full of shit and very suspicious. It was only after he came around that Random Rants of Ryan started attacking people associated with Michael Whalen while at the same time going on about Troma Films (Tromagate as they referred to it) being part of Pizzagate. That blew up in their faces because their 'evidence' was nothing more than an exercise in six degrees of separation and they eventually had to apologize and walk back their Troma claims. However, they still kept going after Whalen and anyone who had anything to do with him. This was all like 5 months ago or so.

argosciv ago

Enty blasted Whalen about Voodoo Donuts? I never heard about that. Do we have a link?

https://archive.is/Z3N47

Best I could find, not necessarily Enty directly blasting anyone - vague as always - alluded to in comments.

Yes, I just broke my rule and visited the site, for the sake of... I dunno, whatever...

argosciv ago

I've seen bits and pieces of it over time, including the situation involving Becki.

Not enough to post a definitive take on how trustworthy each individual player is, though. That said, Kappy has managed to insert himself into the center of it all and is therefore the least trustworthy in my opinion. I also would not be at all surprised if every player involved is actually browsing v/pizzagate regularly or intermittently.