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SurfinMindWaves ago

Unless we were personally there as a witness we have to choose who to believe. Choosing who to believe is up to you. I believe that Reagan was a corrupt bastard just like all politicians. I believe that Q is a manipulator. I base this on previous experience and seeing what kinds of people behave in what ways but in the end it's all just a guess.

RedPillEh ago

who isnt a manipulator

SurfinMindWaves ago

Absolutely true. That's why it's so hard to take anyone's word at face value. The stories that Cathy O'Brien tells seem so over the top it is hard to believe them, and yet I hate to throw them all in the toilet just for that reason.

FidelisNeuter ago

The hard part for MK Ultra victims is that some of us who decide to believe them, believe they were really traumatized, tortured, raped, etc. But we must keep a bit of doubt because as they were programmed, their memories too could be manipulated. I think it was in When Rabbit Howls that the author mentions aliens or demons perpetrating crimes, and that she thinks that maybe the criminals were disguised or programmed her to see aliens/demons instead of humans.

We would need videos to actually make a better assessment of what has been going on. The sad part is the victims might remember something, but their memories could have been altered.

AssFaceSandwich2 ago

Maybe 'we' have had ufo tech all along and the abductions and probings are just rapey fun for them whilst dressed as aliens?

ESOTERICshade ago

Maybe 'we' have had ufo tech all along and the abductions and probings are just rapey fun for them whilst dressed as aliens?

According to this ritual abuse survivor the "grey alien" spiel was created by a Nazi faction. The older children were made to put panty hose on their heads to scare the younger children who were told the stocking faced people were aliens. http://www.reflectionsinthenight.com/grey_aliens.htm

I highly recommend this survivor story. Its the most easy reading, compelling, and eerie of the ones in my collection. I just relaxed and read the whole thing in a couple of days. Really cool pictures of her childhood. I learned a lot. If you want to go straight to meat of her story hit the links in the left sidebar.

http://www.reflectionsinthenight.com