I’m writing this because I feel it needs to be said since people are making Jem out to be a martyr.
Now mods are attacked because that’s the disinfo that Jem pushed because @Vindicator banned her after many warnings. People have tried to put blame on him, people have said him and some of us other mods are evil. It’s going too far. I was just a regular user when she was banned. I worked my way up and got to know everyone. It’s nothing like what she describes. There isn’t some mod conspiracy against whistleblowers. I have private tweets of her trying to convince me of that as well. People can be hateful....
Here is one example. Read my reply underneath so you get an idea of where I’m coming from.
People have been urging me to share. I mean no disrespect. I believe Jem did did do a lot of good. But, you guys shouldn’t just go believe everything she’s shared. She exaggerated CONSTANTLY. She always needed to feel important. Plus, she had been working with George Webb all along I believe.
I’m sure some of you are going to be pissed off. I’m sorry. But, you can read thru this and make your own decision, at least I’m putting it out there for you guys to decide on your own.
She made the following tweets. Note how on the last one, it shows George Webb.
These were from Dec 15th. Notice the bottom one shows George Webb...
https://images2.imgbox.com/86/07/ZumZSoXv_o.jpeg
https://images2.imgbox.com/d5/2d/J8t6FMJp_o.jpeg
https://images2.imgbox.com/6e/25/RTJCxGbk_o.jpeg
https://images2.imgbox.com/e4/ae/WwGK7UUc_o.jpeg
She sent more pictures privately on Twitter...
https://images2.imgbox.com/f7/fc/B4LLAHVm_o.jpeg
This is where it’s time to pay closer attention. She sent me these private messages with pictures of James Alefantis, who was supposedly watching her, following her, etc.. As well as talking about a secret bathroom.
See the pictures here...
https://images2.imgbox.com/ef/2b/SdbRMpel_o.jpeg
Here is a personal video she sent me from inside Comet ping pong telling me about a secret room off the bathroom...
https://streamable.com/e7h14
She was always defensive of George Webb. ALWAYS. She didn’t like me until I went thru a period of liking him too. I think she knew him all along. I think she was working with George Webb. So on the same night after going to Comet ping pong, we had a conversation about George Webb. You can see how happy she was being with him. I wondered if they were a couple.
Here is that conversation...
Jem talking about George.
A couple of days later, George Webb made some tweets. It pissed a lot of people off. This is how it started... First, he was accused of child trafficking with James Alefantis. So he showed up at Comet ping pong WITHIN THE HOUR. He must have been pretty concerned to do that.
What made people become so angry was how he described James Alefantis.
He said “I met James Alefantis. He is playing a role as sex predator at CIA.
Good actor. Good CIA man”. He later deleted those tweets and wouldn’t answer people’s questions when they got angry. If it was so important for him to go within the hour, all he said about that was that he’s quite sure he didn’t know James?
Here are the tweets below...
George Webb Tweets
An angry tweet from a user
AFTER George made that tweet, I had a private twitter conversation with Jem. She made light of it and tries to convince me that when George Webb is speaking, he uses psychological warfare. If he was using psychological warfare, then why delete his tweets?
Her story was falling apart. What about the pictures she sent showing James Alefantis and his CIA friend staring her down and following her? What about the secret room off the bathroom that she sent me a video of? She didn’t know that George Webb would tweet what he did so she had to come up with excuses. That’s just a short conversation. But she ended it by saying she thinks James Alefantis is a Finder.
Here is that conversation...
Conversation with Jem about George’s tweet.
We had a long conversation, full of her exaggerating things as usual, on the Dec 20th. But then on December 22nd, I had more questions about why George would say that James Alefantis was a Finder and make light of it saying he’s a good CIA man.
The Dec 22nd conversation was her trying to make me feel sympathy for poor George. Her describing a different story about what happened. The whole story regarding the bathroom changed. She sent me the video the day she took it. How come the new story contradicts what she had said the first time?
George said he showed up within the hour because he was being accused of knowing James Alefantis. Why does Jem say she brought George to keep him them distracted while she looked around? If she found nothing to be wrong, why were the pictures that she sent me ones that made it look like she felt threatened? Plus the secret room off the bathroom. Why did that story change?
Why did everything she said suddenly change after George made that tweet? It ended with her acting irritated and telling me to withhold judgement. Then why did she willingly give me all the “fake” information a week before? Why did she start getting defensive when asked? She didn’t know he was going to make that tweet.
Here is that conversation...
https://images2.imgbox.com/86/f1/1rWUwIiH_o.jpeg
I’m just sharing this because it’s related to James Alefantis and Comet Ping Pong. It’s just an example to show you that she was a limited hangout. She mixed some truth with some disinfo. Others have had experiences as well, but they can share if they choose to.
I would like to say before I’m killed off, that what I have on Jem isn’t anything incriminating. It’s just her usual exaggerated stories and experiences. The only reason I’m not sharing all of it is because it doesn’t apply to pizzagate and I don’t feel right about it.
Since I have been attacked repeatedly, I shared in the comments yesterday how Jem was connected to “Sarah”. A total stalker. It’s probably a guy or a group. @Jem777 and @Gothamgirl were both connected to Sarah.
That’s why GothamGirl got so angry and tried accusing me yesterday or miraculously planting child porn on her phone when I’ve never met her in my life. She said that once I joined pizzagate, people started disappearing. Oh and I threatened to kidnap her child supposedly too. That was just SOME of what she tried to pull yesterday. http://imgbox.com/hw7mLGwR
Anyway, here is me showing how Jem was connected to Sarah and how I was being stalked...
https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2677890/13589301
https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2677890/13589525
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EffYouJohnPodesta ago
When George calls JA a good CIA man, he's saying, James Alefantis is a CIA man. He is not a pizzeria owner. He's doing his job and he does it well. It was not a compliment. He wasn't minimizing James Alefantis's role, in fact, he at one point claimed that he thought it was possible CPP's basement was used as an operating theater for organ recovery and harvesting. Everyone here knows JA is evil, a Satanist, a breeder, Caris James is his daughter, the MILF mom likes Scott Cummings but will loan out Caris James to daddy for trips overseas. It's all as screwed up as it could possibly be but the main reason he never goes down is because he is CIA, and a Rothschild, and he is too big to fall. Think logically.
jangles ago
srayzie you are wrong about things here, you are not correct, she is dead, gtfo
RichardWagner ago
You, "srayzie" "gothamgirl" "argosciv" are low level mossad and you make me sick.
If you think God isn't real, that's your problem.
jangles ago
You have the wrong person, God presents me with many great gifts. I am grateful!
RichardWagner ago
I wish you all were as clever as you think you are.
srayzie ago
He would change his views all the time. Once he even said he was Mossad. But, I’ve never heard the theory that Caris James was the daughter of James Alefantis,
EffYouJohnPodesta ago
Maybe I only shared it with a few people on Facebook but I thought I wasn't the only one who thought that. There was another mod in a pizzagate facebook group I talked with this about so I assumed other people knew too.
EllaMinnow ago
You're not the only one who thought that, ja as caris's father was the general consensus and I've been here since before pizzagate had its own name on Reddit. So yes, I also agree with you.
And the secret bathroom at comet wasn't a secret. It was a "secret" for it's customers. There were several pics taken from inside. Someone drew an alien on the wall iirc. Not saying yes or no about Jem, just pointing it out to anyone who reads this.
Pizzalawyer ago
you are right, he even attended her birth at home (or was that a sibling) Can you even imagine such a flagrantly homosexual creep at a birth. Think about those attending the birth of Rosemarys baby.
EffYouJohnPodesta ago
that I am thinking was a different birth... this was a hospital birth - I think? that was a midwife / home birth & I'm not sure who it was anymore
I just remember people here arguing over who the dude in the photo was
Shizy ago
Why do you think Caris is his kid?
EffYouJohnPodesta ago
I went through the instagram posts with a fine toothed comb. The basic reasons are: Because of her middle name being James, he was there at the birth, because she looks like him, because he called her mom a MILF, and because when you compare the tool online at "Morphthing" with Scott and the mom, their offspring looks like the older child mom has, and when you do a morph thing tool of James and the mom, it looks like Caris. And the fact that James's mother is holding her in a photo op, looking like a proud grandma, and because she goes on a trip with James to Europe, seemingly alone with him. I don't send my kids off with a godfather for overseas trips, do you? Satanists often breed together even if they're not together, & that mom would want her daughter to be born into the Rothschild blood line, for future security. Also, contrary to what most people think, a gay Satanist WILL sleep with a woman, for breeding purposes. James Alefantis is not all he seems.
Pizzalawyer ago
thanks for bringing us around to Caris James and the reason we are all here. Maybe instead of sniping at one another (which im guilty of, too) we should intead revisit Alefantis and the DC scene, now that we are all educated.
Now that I know that satanists deliberatedly breed, that satanists parents exploit their own children, that such children are groomed for future activities, Im looking at this photo with fresh eyes & recollecting the photo of Caris taped to the table with a sheepish, unsure, semi-proud look on her face.
Is she being habituated to the basket, then a crate and being rewarded with an orange and praise and a good girl photo????
Are_we_sure ago
This really does not make any sense at all. You're starting with the guilty verdict and working backwards from there.
Pizzalawyer ago
Sorry , but I find all the photos of Caris James on JAs Instagram account to be strange. Ive raised 2 kids and helped with a grandchild and thats just my oponion. Alefantis selected these photos for his instagram acct. after they were sent to him or after he took them. The ragamuffin little girl is not a cute photo, neither is the one where she is wearing a pedoswirl dress or "I am a pizza cunt" tshirt.
Are_we_sure ago
I would venture that the context in which you viewed them ....i.e. you were only looking at these photos because you were told and tended to believe these people were pedophiles. The ragamuffin photo is plenty cute.
Your suspicion doesn't count for evidence. As noted above, you are starting with a photo and create an entire narrative for the photo to match your suspicion.
Harsh, Dude! I believe it was just Pizza Slut in the Pizza Hut logo style.....yes, here it is.
https://steemitimages.com/0x0/https://i.imgsafe.org/8f272a9562.jpg
Yeah, this is pretty tasteless, but it's a long, long leap to claim this is evidence of a trafficking ring. It's most likely just an example of people very comfortable with cursing and vulgarity. This is also not from Alefantis's Instagram and may not even be Caris James because it was posted on someone's tumblr in 2012, making it too old to be Caris James.
The "pedoswirl" dress? How much meaning do you actually place on that? It's a common design element used over and over and over again. It was virtually unknown as a code. Do you think companies that use this as part of their logo are actually trafficking children or just oblivious to these esoteric meanings? Ever wonder why the FBI never released that document themselves? My guess is they knew they would be flooded with useless tips.
I've seen many, many folks call for arrests of Alefantis and others and I always ask, what's your probable cause? What evidence do you have that would be enough for the police to get a warrant?
Pizzalawyer ago
I edited slut for cunt, assuming that makes a difference. The photos are not enough for an arrest warrant. Circumstancial evidence is tedious, built up brick by brick. I think all of the evidence re: JA and CPP warranted an undercover investigation which may or may not lead to probable cause to arrest..
EffYouJohnPodesta ago
maybe she's too elite to be used for child selling - "nobody puts baby in a basket" chances are she's just his daughter and is along for the ride
I dunno about the tape thing, it could have been just a joke but obviously one started by a person with a rather sick mind, like JA
the proof of how demented he is is everywhere...
Pizzalawyer ago
you are right, even kitty cats get into .baskets. Our minds are in danger of getting warped by warped persons
Are_we_sure ago
Um what? Who/what are you quoting?
EffYouJohnPodesta ago
it was a comment James Alefantis made on the photo of Caris James standing in a basket.
Joe10jo ago
You’re right!!!! She’s James’ kid! Looks just like him!
awake4646 ago
Can a non-guardian fly overseas with a child?
Shizy ago
Yes they can if they have the child's passport and a letter from the parent/guardian.
Foster children are allowed to fly internationallywith a court order allowing them to do so.
EffYouJohnPodesta ago
That is a pretty good question - I have never tried to go overseas at all, but I think you could if you had some kind of letter from the parent and their passport. Of course, Rothschild probably doesn't need anyone's permission.
awake4646 ago
Looks like it is fine as long as you carry the appropriate documentation. Most anyone does not want to travel with kids that young. It is a complete mess and overseas travel seems even more difficult. It is interesting that a man who is not the father and as far as we know has no official child care experience would travel with a small child like that. Not to mention there is no purpose for it. They claim not to be blood relatives, so why did he want a baby travel pal?
'Adults traveling with children should also be aware that, while the U.S. does not require this documentation, other countries may have a requirement and failure to produce notarized permission letters and/or birth certificates could result in travelers being refused entry (Canada has very strict requirements in this regard).'
https://help.cbp.gov/app/answers/detail/a_id/3643/~/children---child-traveling-with-one-parent-or-someone-who-is-not-a-parent-or
EffYouJohnPodesta ago
good points, I have traveled alone with my son as a baby and it was extremely difficult
think- ago
I guess so when they show a permission issued by the parents?
ESOTERICshade ago
Is Caris that little girl with the black and white polka dot dress holding an "orange" in a picture? That little brown headed girl?
EffYouJohnPodesta ago
https://imgur.com/a/fH2Kz0z YEP
EffYouJohnPodesta ago
She's blonde. The older daughter has darker hair I believe. But yes she is holding an orange and standing in a basket. I think the post said "hipster baby"
DownvoaterSquirrel ago
Yep
ESOTERICshade ago
Interesting. You made your account here at Voat just to reply to my comment. Did I hit the nail on the head?
EffYouJohnPodesta ago
I made a new account from the phone because I didn't know where my children put my laptop. Then my kid took my phone again, so I'm back on the laptop now.
EricKaliberhall ago
Communicating with yourself again... Absolutely pathetic!
EffYouJohnPodesta ago
No, that's me. Since everyone was downvoating me for disagreeing with Q and disagreeing with Jenny Moore being a disinformation shill and disagreeing with GW murdering Jenny, I named my new profile in honor of the CIA operatives and PIs on the board...
EricKaliberhall ago
So you made a new account with the purpose to reply to the biggest shill on v/pizzagate, not to attack the shill in question... But to agree. Yeah, that's not suspicious at all... But hey, at least you're honest. :)
EffYouJohnPodesta ago
No, because I was on my phone, reading responses to my own comments and I have no idea what my password is... How is ESOTERIC Shade suspicious? Please do enlighten me...
I'd love to hear why you think I'm "suspicious."
EricKaliberhall ago
I didn't say EXOTERICshill is suspicious. I said he is the biggest shill on v/pizzagate.
You defending the biggest shill on v/pizzagate is kind of suspicious... I hope that was enlightening for you.
EffYouJohnPodesta ago
Ok, with absolutely no reasons other than you say so? OK. You're right, I don't think he's a shill. If you wanna be paranoid about me, go ahead, that's pretty moronic but ok!
ESOTERICshade ago
You are a mod. You need to take your Q Bullly Mod Patrol Car and park it in the sidebar where the forum rules are and stay out of the comment section if you want this to be a free speech zone. You are over stepping your duties. We dont have to agree about Q as long as we take down pedophiles. Ok? Chill the fuck out bro.
EricKaliberhall ago
So the big bad bully mod (me) am not allowed to comment... When I do, I am over stepping my duties? That's hilarious.
I will always call you out for the pathetic shill that you are. And I will never be your bro!
ESOTERICshade ago
You are a mod. Your duty is to allow free speech. If you want to bully people about their views you need to demod yourself. This is very simple. By the way I like your early alert system to my comments. Very novel.
EricKaliberhall ago
You are free to say whatever you want, I'm not going stop you. What I will do however is call you out on the constant bullshit that you spew.
You'd like that wouldn't you... Not going to happen @EXOTERICshill. :)
auralsects ago
kill yourself, Swedish cuck. I had a guy in a totally unrelated sub call ME an alt of ES's. so clearly youre gossipy faggot spreading lies.
DE-MOD THIS ASSHOLE NOW @Vindicator @think-
think- ago
I'm a woman (a real woman, not a tranny fake one :-)), so I can't seem to figure out how to press that damn 'delete' button on the mod list sheet, sorry..... /s
...you know, with woman having no brains and all...we're technically challenged... /s
I onnly pour woomann withoot braens sso dunno why me shoult doo favuor too yu.
@EricKaliberhall @Vindicator @srayzie @Shizy @Crensch
auralsects ago
you know what bitch, i'm thinkin they should make ME a mod at this point
your submissions:
LMAO
think- ago
You think I'm interested in what a gay trannie camel jockey is thinking? WRONG, babe.
You found some nice dresses in the summer sale?
@Shizy @srayzie @EricKaliberhall (I know Eric...grin)
auralsects ago
for real tho why would anyone take this sub seriously when you have ALL Qtards AND WOMEN moderating, lmao!
think- ago
I didn't call you a woman, hon, I said you were a trannie. That's a BIG difference. You will never be the real deal. :-)
Hmm....a trannie camel jockey with masochistic tendencies? Glad to see that it is so painful for you to hang out here! :-)
@srayzie @Shizy @EricKaliberhall (Eric, next time, I promise....;-))
Shizy ago
And yet he cries that he should be made a mod!?!? 😂 Guess we know the real reason for his temper tantrums!
auralsects ago
what would be insulting about working as a professional camel racer. camels are worth more than racehorses.
youll be racist against arabs but I haven't seen you say a single disparaging word about Jews -- you've clearly learned a lot here and are totally qualified to be a mod.
of course, given that @Vindicator has been exposed as a dirty kike SHILL, your modship makes total sense.
Shizy ago
So the ONlY group you won't be racist towards are arabs. That confirms what everyone is saying about you being the resident dune coon! It also explains your rabid hatred of woman! I was pretty sure all sand niggers are faggots! Thanks for confirming that!
auralsects ago
Pointing out that she will stereotype one Semitic group but not another isn't defending them, you incredibly retarded bitch. It is literally the exact opposite of that.
You can get into the cattle car with the kikes if you want, there will be plenty of space for traitorous, meddling whores.
EffYouJohnPodesta ago
this thread just became more visually beautiful and all because I used my husband's phone to create another account... epic numbers of rectangles and corners... https://imgur.com/a/6Q8RbTw
think- ago
SJW much? I'd recommend going back to Reddit....
auralsects ago
https://secretlivesofobjectsblog.files.wordpress.com/2016/03/d6aba-scolds_bridle_liz_pirie.jpg
This is how unbearable you actually are. White men had to invent devices to make you shut the fuck up. Ponder that. You think we wanted to? Do you not feel guilty for forcing us to manufacture such barbarities?
think- ago
Donkeyhonk, do you think I will waste my time to look at your pic?
And you are neither white, nor a man, so whatever the pic shows, you don't make sense - as usual.
@srayzie @Shizy @EricKaliberhall
srayzie ago
LOL
Shizy ago
Wow, so you aren't just saying that without having thoroughly looked through everything. Thanks for sharing, that's very interesting for sure!