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argosciv ago

Thanks for presenting this.

Something which people have consistently overlooked here, is indeed the relationship between adrenochrome(+ derivatives), endorphins, elevated levels of in vivo heavy-metals & oxidative compounds/enzymes, DMT and pineal gland function.

It was never solely about adrenochrome, despite that for some reason, it is the only compound being focused on.

As an aside, per what I have tried to allude to without explicitly saying it:

Humans can indeed take control of the relevant factors/compounds/elements within their own body. Stimulating autonomous functions can produce and influx of adrenochrome along with DMT; one does NOT need external sources of adrenochrome/DMT('harvested' from other humans/plants or otherwise) in order to achieve the effects being sought by those who commit atrocities explored in pizzagate.

Mind over matter, so to speak.

Worth noting:

'Energy drinks' & coffee can be utilized to elevate in vivo heavy-metals levels and to stimulate the adrenal glands. Many activities such as singing and self-mutilation can induce endorphin release and again stimulate the adrenal glands. Put 2 and 2 together with a knowledge of other biological processes and you can induce the sought-after effects.

We are chemical engines; "the more you know..."


cc: @Factfinder2 @Vindicator

abattoirdaydream ago

Tobacco contains MAOIs? Does it remain intact after heating? MAOI Anti-depressants/anti-anxiety medicine are some of the most frequently prescribed.

Might explain the anti-smoking push and lies surrounding it. Tobacco wasn't Pfisers territory.

Sorry for the aside...

argosciv ago

Tobacco contains MAOIs?

[https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16177026 | https://archive.is/cyPhU]:

J Neurosci. 2005 Sep 21;25(38):8593-600.

Monoamine oxidase inhibition dramatically increases the motivation to self-administer nicotine in rats.

Guillem K1, Vouillac C, Azar MR, Parsons LH, Koob GF, Cador M, Stinus L.


Nicotine is the major neuroactive compound of tobacco, which has, by itself, weak reinforcing properties. It is known that levels of the enzymes monoamine oxidase A (MAO-A) and MAO-B are reduced in the platelets and brains of smokers and that substances, other than nicotine, present in tobacco smoke have MAO-inhibitory activities. Here, we report that inhibition of MAO dramatically and specifically increases the motivation to self-administer nicotine in rats. These effects were more prominent in rats selected for high responsiveness to novelty than in rats with low responsiveness to novelty. The results suggest that the inhibition of MAO activity by compounds present in tobacco smoke may combine with nicotine to produce the intense reinforcing properties of cigarette smoking that lead to addiction.

Will add link to initial comment. Thanks for prompting me to confirm <3

cc: @Vindicator @Factfinder2 @13uddha

Kekmet-Peperoni ago

THIS totally this. Ive been thinking something like this for years, i noticed that when i switched to tobacco from the tobacconist (sort of organic tobacco) i smoked Alot less, and didnt crave a cig in the morning straight away unlike cigarettes or store bought rolling, i had way fewer cravings, similar to how people smoke less when vaping and find it easier to cut down. Now that i vape its even better, but it seems to be the case for a lot of other people who are surprised at how little they vape compared to cigs. My hypothesis was they had extra nicotine they put in from the pesticide phase with neo-nicotinide. Centuries ago it was know that the nicotine plant was special why? because no bugs would go near it was a natural pesticide. I did a little digging years ago and there where reports of tobacco plant crops being regularly sprayed. So i just assumed that because tobacco plants didnt need any pesticide then Neo nicotinides seemed to be a good bet as to why this was, but MAOI seems to fit the symptoms alot better which could just reinforce my hypothesis (i dont know enough about chemistry though) but I find it interesting that MAOA's are used in pesticides too.

argosciv ago

My hypothesis was they had extra nicotine they put in from the pesticide phase with neo-nicotinide.

Here's what makes cigarettes and most big-brand puch tobacco more addictive:

It's the extra chemicals/compounds added to the end product. Basically, cigarettes trick the body into feeling more nourished, than say, raw/'organic' tobacco("chop chop").

Centuries ago it was know that the nicotine plant was special why? because no bugs would go near it was a natural pesticide.

It was mostly used(in 'ancient'/pre-historic times) in a 'religious' setting, ie, it was treated as as a 'sacred' plant due to its psychoactive properties(MAOIs and the effects thereof) and used in conjunction with psychedelics(DMT extracts).

(i dont know enough about chemistry though)

Ditto, I don't at all claim to be a professional in the field.

but I find it interesting that MAOA's are used in pesticides too.

Ditto again. It's fascinating, really, learning about this kind of stuff, even if the best resources available are the internet and self-exploration.

Kekmet-Peperoni ago

It was mostly used(in 'ancient'/pre-historic times) in a 'religious'(shamanic) setting, ie, it was treated as as a 'sacred' plant due to its psychoactive properties(MAOIs and the effects thereof) and used in conjunction with psychedelics(DMT extracts, 'magic mushrooms', etc).

oh yeah thats where ive heard of them before (MAOA), my ahem research into DMT, or specifically the mix called Changa.

argosciv ago

my ahem research into DMT, or specifically the mix called Changa.

/smirk

Trying to avoid doing the music thing, but, in commemoration of coming across a fellow researcher:

CAPTAIN HOOK & ASTRIX - BUNGEE JUMP (ZAOULI DANCE) ♮ L.S.D MUSIC ॐ

Kekmet-Peperoni ago

Ha, I bust a gut watching that without dmt! I recommend watching WebM's whilst researching. Although due to their random nature its imperative to have the one thing you love easily on hand to lift your spirits incase you run into something that feels bad or in this case looks absolutely demonic and unsettling like this guy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OgzFDAvIhZg lol.

argosciv ago

Hahaha yeah always gotta be careful what you surround yourself with at the time.

I don't go too hard with it regardless, though.

Kekmet-Peperoni ago

yeah me too. everything in moderation. well not everything but you get what i mean.