Silsby had no ties to Alefantis or to Clinton or to Nuestro Pequenos Hermanos. She did not get any children from NPH. We know exactly where she got all of her children from.
A reporter's visit Saturday to the rubble-strewn Citron slum, where 13 of the children lived, led to their parents, all of whom said they turned their youngsters over to the missionary group voluntarily in hopes of getting them to safety.
Similar explanations were given by parents in the mountain town of Callabas, outside Port-au-Prince, who told the AP on Feb. 3 that desperation and blind faith led them to hand over 20 children to the Baptist group
NPH did not have facilities in Citron or Callabas in 2010.
Your mistake is that you assume they were taken from an orphanage.
THEY WERE BEING TAKEN TO AN ORPHANAGE.
The children were being moved from Haiti to the DR.
So, your logic is pretty flawed, there, along with your attitude.
There is more to the story, though, and they weren't connected with just one orphanage.
Additionally, by the same degree of separation, Clinton and Alefantis also are a connection to Silsby. So are a few others.
Being connected to Alefantis through Maccoby, Clinton and Heather (or was it Arwen? or both?, puts Silsby a lot more connected to "pizzagate" than nearly any other person.
She was caught red handed with children. She faced no accountability. Her fake lawyer was also involved in trafficking of children.
Your mistake is that you assume they were taken from an orphanage.
THEY WERE BEING TAKEN TO AN ORPHANAGE.
The first part of this is false and the second part is irrelevant. Silsby had this dream of setting up an orphanage in the Dominican Republic, but that is completely irrelevant to where she got them from. I don't assume they were being taking from an orphanage, I know that. The AP found exactly where the children came from and spoke to the parents who gave them up. The Haitian courts spoke to them as well. In a lot of cases children in Haitian orphanages have parents, just parents who can't care for them. 13 of the children came from an informal slum orphanage in Citron and 20 came from an orphanage in Callabas associated with the Protestant Haiti Sharing Jesus Ministry. Neither place was where the Catholic NPH operated. She was taken to these place by an American pastor named Jean Sainvil.
So, your logic is pretty flawed, there, along with your attitude.
Actually, I know the facts of this case. The rest of post is incorrect.
If you know the facts, then you know WHICH orphnage they were going to, yes? Clinton Donor Micheal Zaleskis orphanage in Cabarete, the Dream Center.
Or was there another orphanage in Cabarete?
I'm genuinely curious if you know because the flaw in your stance is that you are claiming to know which orphanages were involved.
The only new orphanage in Cabarete at the time is tied to the Clintons. Funded by the likes of Spencer Kimball and Zaleski, along with other Clinton donors.
So... I get you are saying there's no ties, but I don't really see that as being the case.
Where were the children taken from, where were they going?
WHY WOULD THE FAKE LAWYER lie about which other orphanages were involved?
Also, are you aware about the orphans being flown in military planes with a governor per Valerie Jarrets authority?
Something to think about... but I contest there are ties from Silsby to Clinton via the orphanage the children were being delivered to.
If you know the facts, then you know WHICH orphnage they were going to
The Silsby to Alefantis connection was always about where the kids came FROM. To debunk this, you do not need to say anything about where the children were going TO.
However, you also have that part wrong.
they were going to, yes? Clinton Donor Micheal Zaleskis orphanage in Cabarete, the Dream Center.
Or was there another orphanage in Cabarete?
No, they were not going to an orphanage in Cabarete at all. Silsby was trying to start her own orphanage from scratch and had leased a technical school/retreat center that had once been the Costa Liza Hotel for 6 months to serve as a temporary space while she got her permanent thing going. Silsby's original plan was to start her own orphanage and had bought land in the hamlet of Yagua Magante section of the town of Gaspar Hernandez, Espaillat province which is 30 minutes away. This is from their mission statement. https://studylib.net/doc/18912891/new-life-children-s-refuge-haitian-orphan-rescue-mission
•Interim New Life Children Refuge Location:NLCR is in the process of buying land and building an orphanage, school and church in Magante on the northern coast of the Dominican Republic. Given the urgent needs from this earthquake, God has laid upon our hearts the need to go now vs. waiting until the permanent facility is built. He has provided an interim solution in nearby Cabarete, where we will be leasing a 45 room hotel and converting it into an orphanage until the building of the NLCR is complete.This interim location will enable us to provide a loving environment for up to 150 children, from infants to 12 years old.
They had contacted a real estate agent in the DR and he found a building for them
consulted with Roman Catholic Church officials in nearby Puerto Plata, who agreed to rent 45 rooms for $7,400 a month for up to six months.
I have no idea where you got your ideas about the Dream Center, but it is not an orphanage. It was not new in 2010 and it was well funded and professional. Not only is there zero evidence Silsby was involved with them, there's no conceivable reason, they would need to hook up with some bumbling, clueless amateurs from Idaho.
WHY WOULD THE FAKE LAWYER lie about which other orphanages were involved?
The fake lawyer was lying about lots of things during that time. Why is this lie more signicant than his other lies? My guess, since he doesn't speak French Creole, was he googled some stuff in English to try to find something plausible that would make Silsby seem sympathetic. Again, Puello was lying. NPH/NPFS do not use the name Friends of the Orphans in Haiti and their orphanage did not collapse. It was fully functional. If they needed to move children, they would have used their orphanage which was not where the earthquake hit
Also, are you aware about the orphans being flown in military planes with a governor per Valerie Jarrets authority
That had nothing to do with Silsby. The majority of them were in the process of being adopted by US parents, but 12 were not. The US women caring for them refused to leave without these 12. The women were from Pennsylvania which is how Ed Rendell got involved. The email traffic at the State Department and the White House was about getting permission for these 12 to leave Haiti as the others were cleared. Here's the back story to that.
So, they plan on bringing the kids to stay at an all inclusive resort with pool and hot tub, right across the street from the cash only pizza shop, wwwhile there is a perfectly good Dream Center a block away. Silsby later ends up working for Amber Alert where Podestas get contract to represent the company, as well.
"Working with AMBER Ready to help inspire nationwide support for their innovative child safety solution should prove to be very exciting and gratifying,” stated Ed Rothschild, a Principle of the Podesta Group. “We are very pleased to have been selected to oversee this important assignment and expect that our multi-pronged approach to boosting awareness of AMBER Ready will ultimately aid in the safe return of abducted or missing kids.”
Also, the Catholics are involved, and own the rooms the kids will be staying in.
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Are_we_sure ago
Silsby had no ties to Alefantis or to Clinton or to Nuestro Pequenos Hermanos. She did not get any children from NPH. We know exactly where she got all of her children from.
https://www.google.com/amp/www.sandiegouniontribune.com/sdut-ap-finds-all-baptist-groups-orphans-had-parents-2010feb21-story,amp.html
NPH did not have facilities in Citron or Callabas in 2010.
This is false
thewebofslime ago
Your mistake is that you assume they were taken from an orphanage.
THEY WERE BEING TAKEN TO AN ORPHANAGE.
The children were being moved from Haiti to the DR.
So, your logic is pretty flawed, there, along with your attitude.
There is more to the story, though, and they weren't connected with just one orphanage.
Additionally, by the same degree of separation, Clinton and Alefantis also are a connection to Silsby. So are a few others.
Being connected to Alefantis through Maccoby, Clinton and Heather (or was it Arwen? or both?, puts Silsby a lot more connected to "pizzagate" than nearly any other person.
She was caught red handed with children. She faced no accountability. Her fake lawyer was also involved in trafficking of children.
Are_we__sure ago
The first part of this is false and the second part is irrelevant. Silsby had this dream of setting up an orphanage in the Dominican Republic, but that is completely irrelevant to where she got them from. I don't assume they were being taking from an orphanage, I know that. The AP found exactly where the children came from and spoke to the parents who gave them up. The Haitian courts spoke to them as well. In a lot of cases children in Haitian orphanages have parents, just parents who can't care for them. 13 of the children came from an informal slum orphanage in Citron and 20 came from an orphanage in Callabas associated with the Protestant Haiti Sharing Jesus Ministry. Neither place was where the Catholic NPH operated. She was taken to these place by an American pastor named Jean Sainvil.
Actually, I know the facts of this case. The rest of post is incorrect.
followthemoney ago
If you know the facts, then you know WHICH orphnage they were going to, yes? Clinton Donor Micheal Zaleskis orphanage in Cabarete, the Dream Center.
Or was there another orphanage in Cabarete?
I'm genuinely curious if you know because the flaw in your stance is that you are claiming to know which orphanages were involved.
The only new orphanage in Cabarete at the time is tied to the Clintons. Funded by the likes of Spencer Kimball and Zaleski, along with other Clinton donors.
So... I get you are saying there's no ties, but I don't really see that as being the case.
Where were the children taken from, where were they going?
WHY WOULD THE FAKE LAWYER lie about which other orphanages were involved?
Also, are you aware about the orphans being flown in military planes with a governor per Valerie Jarrets authority?
Something to think about... but I contest there are ties from Silsby to Clinton via the orphanage the children were being delivered to.
Are_we_sure ago
The Silsby to Alefantis connection was always about where the kids came FROM. To debunk this, you do not need to say anything about where the children were going TO.
However, you also have that part wrong.
No, they were not going to an orphanage in Cabarete at all. Silsby was trying to start her own orphanage from scratch and had leased a technical school/retreat center that had once been the Costa Liza Hotel for 6 months to serve as a temporary space while she got her permanent thing going. Silsby's original plan was to start her own orphanage and had bought land in the hamlet of Yagua Magante section of the town of Gaspar Hernandez, Espaillat province which is 30 minutes away. This is from their mission statement. https://studylib.net/doc/18912891/new-life-children-s-refuge-haitian-orphan-rescue-mission
They had contacted a real estate agent in the DR and he found a building for them
I have no idea where you got your ideas about the Dream Center, but it is not an orphanage. It was not new in 2010 and it was well funded and professional. Not only is there zero evidence Silsby was involved with them, there's no conceivable reason, they would need to hook up with some bumbling, clueless amateurs from Idaho.
The fake lawyer was lying about lots of things during that time. Why is this lie more signicant than his other lies? My guess, since he doesn't speak French Creole, was he googled some stuff in English to try to find something plausible that would make Silsby seem sympathetic. Again, Puello was lying. NPH/NPFS do not use the name Friends of the Orphans in Haiti and their orphanage did not collapse. It was fully functional. If they needed to move children, they would have used their orphanage which was not where the earthquake hit
That had nothing to do with Silsby. The majority of them were in the process of being adopted by US parents, but 12 were not. The US women caring for them refused to leave without these 12. The women were from Pennsylvania which is how Ed Rendell got involved. The email traffic at the State Department and the White House was about getting permission for these 12 to leave Haiti as the others were cleared. Here's the back story to that.
https://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/24/world/americas/24orphans.html
Here's an update http://www.post-gazette.com/local/region/2015/01/11/Five-years-on-three-Haiti-orphans-are-settled-in-their-Pittsburgh-lives/stories/201501080263
Adoption petitions were eventually secured for all 12 orphans and the adoptions were finalized in 2012 http://www.post-gazette.com/life/lifestyle/2012/03/23/Adoption-of-Haitian-orphans-finalized/stories/201203230155
followthemoney ago
So, they plan on bringing the kids to stay at an all inclusive resort with pool and hot tub, right across the street from the cash only pizza shop, wwwhile there is a perfectly good Dream Center a block away. Silsby later ends up working for Amber Alert where Podestas get contract to represent the company, as well.
Also, the Catholics are involved, and own the rooms the kids will be staying in.
Did the Magante plan ever pan out?