This is a tough one to swallow.
In the movie for which he is most famous he had friends of one of his children come to the set with the child. All of the friends were probably no older than 7 or 8. He molested a dozen of them at least during the filming of the movie and filmed many of them. When he died there were hundreds of hours of footage which was some of the most extreme versions of child porn anywhere.
Sadly, it shouldn't be too surprising, now viewing his career through a #pg lens. (From the comments:)
But he leaves hints throughout his work, like that weird issue of Playgirl magazine showing up in "The Shining." And of course how he changed a key plot point in "Lolita" to show a vast network of pedophiles, not a lone predator.
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carmencita ago
One comment says the movie must be Lolita and that Sue Lyons was 13 at the time. A 13 yr old would not be hanging around with 7 & 8 yr olds. Cousins maybe, but not friends. Other comments hint at Peter Sellers who also had children.
This is info from his Wiki: He joined his parents in theater when he was a very young age. Imagine the people he hung around while a child and we know there were plenty of pedos around.
Sellers maintained a very close relationship with his mother, which his friend Spike Milligan later considered unhealthy for a grown man.[9] Sellers's agent, Dennis Selinger, recalled his first meeting with Peg and Peter Sellers, noting that "Sellers was an immensely shy young man, inclined to be dominated by his mother, but without resentment or objection".[10] As an only child though, he spent much time alone.[11]
He had problems with depression and drinking all through his life and died of a heart attack at the age of 54. This, like other abused actors and actresses points to the after affects of that abuse.
Not saying it can't be Kubrick. Just that it could also point to Sellers.
Eggs-Vs-Bacon ago
There are a few different parts to the blind. The 7-8 year olds refer to the friends of Kubrick's daughter Vivian, who had an uncredited part in 2001: A Space Odyssey as Squirt, the little girl who telecalls with Floyd, and she spent a great deal of time on set. Vivian was 8 at the time. Vivian famously cut herself off from her family and joined Scientology. It's said that Kubricks relationship with his daughter and his distess at "losing" her to Scientology influenced his writing and directing decisions for Eyes Wide Shut.
carmencita ago
We all have to wonder when we hear that a child is brought to the studio and spending time there. Not good. There is a reason she stayed away. Why she picked Scientology, that is also strange. If she was abused that was the worst place for her. Very odd too that she joined up with them during filming of EWS and the connection to Cruise. Makes one think. If he put any of his feelings about his daughter into that movie, that is even more frightening. Wow. Is that how he thought he lost her, how the daughter was lost? They kind of gave her away at the end of the film did they not? Is that what he did to Vivian? Double Wow.
ReddittRefugee ago
@carmencita,
There is an extremely subtle detail in Eyes Wide Shut that very few have noticed, but is extremely disturbing.
As the film is coming to an end in the department store, Bill and Alice's daughter Helena appears to go off to some fate unknown with two men, then Bill and Alice close out the film with some final dialog. That dialog makes it clear that Bill and Alice have undergone their initiation.
What's interesting is that the two men she leaves with, and the man who moves between her and Bill and Alice to cut them off from her as she goes with the two men, were all at Ziegler's Christmas party when Bill and Alice's initiation began.
You can see the details here:
http://idyllopuspress.com/idyllopus/film/ews_resolution.htm
Note that the woman who wrote the linked article was so disturbed by the scene, she experienced cognitive dissonance and undergoes desperate contortions to explain away the horror of the scene and its implications.
I think Kubrick was not flinching away or diluting the meaning in any way. When you participate in elite ritualism, they will demand your children.
carmencita ago
I agree. The do demand your children. So many have lost a child in a mysterious way. One that comes to mind is Joe Biden. He also lost his wife and baby daughter decades ago. There is always a payoff.