The only people to receive punishment for the Franklin Scandal were the victims, some paid with their lives (pizzagate)

submitted ago by V____Z

Cross post from r/conspiracy, where the banned documentary about the Franklin Scandal, A Conspiracy of Silence, is going viral.

Here are the comments that caught my eye:

OP:

Contrary to the "official statement", this crime has not been "debunked" as a hoax. Mysterious deaths have surrounded the information coming to light. Many witnesses and victims of the crime had their lives threatened, and several of the key witnesses, despite being warned to back down, did not take back their claims which resulted in perjury charges and prison sentences. Why would they allow themselves to endure this over a simple lie? This conspiracy runs deep and they want it to be silenced for as long as possible.

Comment:

It wasn't just purgery charges, they rounded up the rest of them on various charges such as possession etc. The key thing to note is that the only ones who seen any real formal prosecution were the victims. It's sickening.

Comment:

Cant find it now but I read somewhere that Troy Boner died in hospital after running in there yelling about how people were trying to kill him

OP response:

" In 1990, according to DeCamp:

“Troy Boner was going to provide the information in open court, under oath, that would blow the lid off the Franklin case, and force a new trial for Alisha Owen [another victim].…As Troy came into the courthouse, he was immediately ushered into a private room by county judicial authorities...the hearing was delayed for one hour.…Troy was in the room with a ‘Special Attorney,’ and with other officials from the prosecutor’s office--the very same prosecutorial team Troy was about to testify against. “...Troy leaned over and whispered to me, ‘Oh God, forgive me. They guaranteed if I talk here today, they will put me away for twenty years...told me I would be charged with perjury for my original testimony if I opened my mouth today in court….Look what they did to Alisha [she was sent to prison--totally set up by the feds through a phony perjury charge]….Look what they did to my brother [his brother Shawn was found dead after playing “Russian Roulette”].”

In late 2003, just before the 2004 election campaign started to heat up, Troy Boner walked into a hospital in New Mexico, screaming out “they’re after me, they’re after me because of this book,” meaning The Franklin Cover-up, which he was waving in the air.

After Boner was mildly sedated and calmed down, he was put in a private room for observation.

When nurses came back to check on him early the next morning, he was sitting in a chair, bleeding from the mouth and quite dead."

Wow.

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HillBoulder ago

I couldn't imagine living such a horrible life. To have the things happen to you like Bonacci, Boner, Owens and then have nothing but injustice after injustice take place afterwards is absolutely devastating. A true crime against humanity.

Decamp and Gunderson are both absolute frauds of the worst kind imo I'm glad they're both dead. They didn't stop anything from happening and in all likelihood did quite the opposite. One of the worst, most obvious cases of institutionalized top to bottom pedophilia there is.

Shizy ago

If it wasn't for John Decamp, most of us should never even know this went on!

HillBoulder ago

Just like Alex Jones right? Who would know about the noo werld ordur if not for him?

So we all knew it went on, but was one single person brought to justice by Decamp or Gunderson? No. On the contrary. The victims wound up locked up, dead or discredited. Was Vatican/Jesuit involvement brought up even once in his book? Nope.

I'm quite surprised pg'ers here are so dismissive about them being controlled opposition. It's actually the only explanation for why essentially nothing happened to any of the alleged perpetrators to this day but the victims were treated like trash.

I also haven't seen one lick of evidence that Gunderson was murdered either. If you have any I'd happily check it out.

think- ago

I agree with your assessment. Actually David Shurter, one of the victims, said that DeCamp was a limited hangout, and a pedo himself, who wrote the book in order to control the narrative. Sadly, he recently scrubbed his website, in order to 'start a new life'.

DeathToMasonsASAP ago

You nailed it.

twistedmac11 ago

I'm quite surprised pg'ers here are so dismissive about them being controlled opposition.

Many people here wouldn't know controlled opposition if it hit them in the face. It's the strangest thing, being in a conspiracy-based subverse with so many people who choose not to think critically.

HillBoulder ago

I think that's part hero complex, you think someone's a saviour for so long and then you find out they may have been involved in unscrupulous behaviors regularly but you have this image in your mind so it just can't be true. Very dangerous and I can see where the do not bear witness to false idols mantra comes from.

I'm not trying to cause any trouble but it's very important to figure out who is involved, and what their role is. Eventually they will run out of shills if we name them all. Sadly, the good guys always wind up dead or silenced one way or another which makes decamp and Gunderson all the more suspect.

twistedmac11 ago

I think that's part hero complex, you think someone's a saviour for so long and then you find out they may have been involved in unscrupulous behaviors regularly but you have this image in your mind so it just can't be true. Very dangerous and I can see where the do not bear witness to false idols mantra comes from.

Correct. Cognitive dissonance occurs when someone is presented with information that challenges one of their currently held beliefs. Many people are quick to dismiss the new information as false, instead of evaluating it (and their current beliefs) in order to discern true from false. To "believe" in something implies that one is making a leap of faith, or otherwise doesn't have all of the information to really be able to tell whether something is true or false. It's better to avoid "believing" altogether, and to focus on what one knows to be true without a doubt. Beliefs are easily exploited; they leave plenty of room for manipulation by those who wish to maintain power.

Criticalthinker615 ago

I can say that Gunderson laid his ass on the line to teach me and you for that matter the truth of this subject much earlier than it became known as pizzagate. And it would seem that he paid the ultimate price for teaching is but what do I know?!

3141592653 ago

And he spoke the truth about McMartin Preschool

HillBoulder ago

The best way to control the opposition is to lead it. Alex Jones, Ted Gunderson(who was in his 80s and was practically irrelevant at the time of his death) Hal Turner, Decamp, Ventura, Icke are all fraudsters along with many many others.

Do you really think either Decamp or Gunderson would have made it through the Franklin years unscathed if they were actually trying to blow the lid off things? Not a chance. They'd both be deader than Boner just look at what they did to the lead investigator Caradori, who had the actual damning evidence before they blew him out of the sky. I thought they were legit for about six or seven years after learning about them but it's a near guarantee they aren't who they appear.

twistedmac11 ago

Do you really think either Decamp or Gunderson would have made it through the Franklin years unscathed if they were actually trying to blow the lid off things?

This. A crucial point to consider when thinking about others who claim to lead the fight against the elite. Those who are really a threat get taken out. The ones allowed to live and keep "spreading awareness" are the ones being controlled.

V____Z ago

I couldn't imagine living such a horrible life. To have the things happen to you like Bonacci, Boner, Owens and then have nothing but injustice after injustice take place afterwards is absolutely devastating. A true crime against humanity.

I was triggered by visiting this sub the other day, when a post about the Hampstead children was trending. They are a horrific but perfect example of this horror.

I can say that Alicia Owens is doing very well today. But I am horrified by what the two Hampstead siblings have in store for them.

Zorrilla ago

I'm glad Alisha Owens is doing well. It's remarkable anyone could be after what she went through. I imagine she's tried to put it all behind her. I wonder how Paul Bonacci is?

This subject really gets to be too much to deal with sometimes. It can be helpful to escape from the darkness and into the sunshine now and then.

V____Z ago

So true. From what i understand he is not doing well. Even mild sexual abuse of children can result in wrecked lives. Just look into the eyes of the young Hampstead girl....

V____Z ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fu77VlA41Sk

If Gunderson was helping rather than stopping it, he would not have been off'ed. And calling Decamp a fraud is absolute blasphemy. You must be a shill, I'm sorry to say. No rational, honest person could come to the conclusion you have.

DeathToMasonsASAP ago

No evidence he was offed. Gunderson can't be trusted, he was a spook. Gunderson was connected to Anton Lavay. Gunderson was subordinate to Michael Aquino but never mentioned this. Gunderson and Aquino put on a performance together on Geraldo, where Aquino came out looking like Dracula. It looked scripted.

V____Z ago

There really are no heroes. Fuck.

Tyranny-News-Network ago

Just to play devil's advocate, Gunderson was the FBI's Los Angeles chief during the height of the COINTELPRO operations. He, without doubt was aware and participated.

This has always been difficult to reconcile. It is what it is.

V____Z ago

Thank you for this.

HillBoulder ago

Only a rational honest person could come to this conclusion once you examine their actions throughout the years. Start here

HillBoulder ago

Name one person Decamp or Gunderson brought to justice.

Zorrilla ago

Can you cite any information to demonstrate that DeCamp and Gunderson were frauds?

DeathToMasonsASAP ago

I did that here before, and many had a heart attack and went into cardiac arrest.

twistedmac11 ago

I can't speak for Decamp, but here's an old Voat post outing Gunderson https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2083110

Zorrilla ago

It might be futile for me to try to respond to this, but I have looked at the information against Gunderson and do not find it very convincing. The note telling of his "marriage" could have easily been faked (why does it look like it was fished out of a garbage can?), and even if it wasn't, it only says that he had a relationship with a woman named Diana that didn't work out. All other "proof" related to his "marriage", as far as I'm aware, is based on the personal testimony of individuals who could be lying or insane.

This does not mean that I firmly believe that everything Gunderson ever said is 100% true.