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Are_we_sure ago

Do you have proof of your claims.

A. That CP was found on the Comet Ping Pong Server. And this happened a few days before the Comet shotoing. B. That the Comet Ping Pong website was actually hosted at Comet Ping Pong and not one a webhost like most small businesses. C. That the bullet that went through the hard drive.

septimasexta ago

"North Carolina arrest records for an Edgar Maddison Welch date back to 2007, and include charges of possession of up to a half ounce of marijuana, possession of controlled substances, driving after consuming alcohol and driving with an open container of alcohol. He plead guilty on the alcohol and drug charges.

In October, Welch is alleged to have struck a 13-year-old with a car on Harrison Road in Salisbury, according to a WBTV story. He stayed at the scene, it was reported. Officials said the victim suffered head, torso and leg injuries.

Reports emerged late Sunday that Welch might be a struggling actor, with a resume that includes a half dozen minor jobs on film productions, including being an extra and production assistant." http://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/local/article118902963.html#storylink=cpy

According to police incidence report: Door, doorlock, computer tower, barrier wall was damaged/destroyed

According to the "public narrative" at the bottom of the page, NO ONE WITNESSED MADISON FIRING THE GUN. https://www.scribd.com/document/333293577/Comet-Gunman-Incident-Report

COMET PING PONG TRAFFIC CAMERAS MOVED 24 HOURS BEFORE GUNMAN INCIDENT – PIZZA PLACE LINKED TO PEDOPHILE RING CONSPIRACY A.K.A. #PIZZAGATE https://70news.wordpress.com/tag/camera/

Are_we_sure ago

And? None of that is proof of the three claims. Not sure what your point is.

septimasexta ago

Answered above. Don't wast my time on down voated downers.

Are_we_sure ago

It answers nothing. Doesn't prove bullet hit hard drive. Doesn't prove CP was on hard drive.

septimasexta ago

I proved that there is no evidence Welch fired a gun inside Comet Ping Pong. How the "tower computer" was damaged remains a mystery. This is not recorded in the incident report.

Are_we__sure ago

You absolutely did not prove there's no evidence he fired inside Comet Ping Pong.

You said there were no eyewitnesses to actual act. No one saw me make this post, but there is certainly evidence I did post this.

But there were plenty of eyewitnesses to him enter CPP with a gun and people who heard him fire and the gunshot damage, all of which is evidence.

septimasexta ago

"But there were plenty of eyewitnesses to him enter CPP with a gun and people who heard him fire and the gunshot damage, all of which is evidence." List them, with their official statements.

Are_we_sure ago

Do you think I have access to original law enforcement documents? This never went to court. He plead guilty, so there's no trial testimony.

Here's criminal complaint with a sworn affidavit.

He called or texted his friends that he was going to do this in the days leading up to his arrest and on his drive to DC.

When he entered the restaurant with his gun people fled. He was probably the only person inside when he fired his guyn. An employee went to a refrigerator in the alley and heard three loud bangs. And returned to restaurant saw Welch who raised his rifle at him and the employee fled out the back door.

https://www.scribd.com/document/334105948/Edgar-Maddison-Welch-Federal-Criminal-Complaint

septimasexta ago

"When he entered the restaurant with his gun people fled. He was probably the only person inside when he fired his guyn. An employee went to a refrigerator in the alley and heard three loud bangs. And returned to restaurant saw Welch who raised his rifle at him and the employee fled out the back door." This is made up. Quote from the document. Only one "victim" is referred to in any official document.

Not many customers at 3:00 pm. One waitress reportedly told her few customers to leave because a man had walked in with a gun. I saw a video interview of two of them who were laughing and said they grabbed their pitcher of beer on the way out. Neither actually saw the gunman nor did they hear gunshots. I saw this first hand, the day of the event. It was local coverage.

Alex jones interviews another "witness." He only saw Welsh "in his peripheral vision" and "could see he had a CONCEALED weapon. HE DID NOT SEE WELSH FIRE A GUN NOR DID HE HEAR GUNSHOTS.HE DID NOT STATE WHAT HE AND HIS FAMILY DID AFTER WELCH WALKED BY. HE DID NOT SAY THAT THEY WERE FRIGHTENED AND RAN OUT. NOTHING. The witness was playing ping pong towards the back middle of the restaurant. He was not still seated up front by the front door. See you tube video at 4:10 http://deadstate.org/alex-jones-scrambles-to-erase-pizzagate-stories-after-d-c-pizzeria-shooting/ Besides the laughing beer-drinking customers, this guy was the only other "witness" I saw interviewed. STRANGE.

septimasexta ago

Found this AP interview with the same guy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTLDKzn80nU Thought Welsh was a concealed carry security guard. NO MENTION OF A CRAZED SHOOTER BRANDISHING A LONG FIREARM. Says Welsh entered the back mystery room. Is that where they keep the "tower computer"?

This version does confirm the beer drinking witnesses account that a waitress told them to get out of the building. WHY WAS THE WAITRESS NOT INTERVIEWED? NAMED?

Are_we__sure ago

This is made up. Quote from the document. Only one "victim" is referred to in any official document.

What are you talking about? Made up??? So you're not even aware of criminal complaint and you are trying to have a conversation about this? I didn't make shit up and I never do.

This is covered in details in the criminal complaint starting on Page 8 of the PDF, paragraph #20. https://www.scribd.com/document/334105948/Edgar-Maddison-Welch-Federal-Criminal-Complaint

Not many customers at 3:00 pm.

What makes you say this? This seems like an assumption. 3PM on a weekend is a pretty prime time for a popular restaurants in big cities.

This is the Reuters story from the day of, before they even identified the gunman. They spoke to a witness who was paying his bill and said it was crowded at the time

This is backed up by news reports that people took shelter in several place, an Indian restaurant, the bookstore, around the corner behind police barricades. The criminal complaint says the police also took people to a firehouse.

I saw a video interview of two of them who were laughing and said they grabbed their pitcher of beer on the way out. Neither actually saw the gunman nor did they hear gunshots. I saw this first hand, the day of the event. It was local coverage.

Yeah, the Washington Post talked to them. Their story doesn't back up your claims of few people in the place. When everone started fleeing they got separated from his wife and kid who wound up in the bookstore. They are laughing because the threat was over by the time of the interview.

HE DID NOT SEE WELSH FIRE A GUN NOR DID HE HEAR GUNSHOTS.

As I said the patrons were out of the building when Welch shot his gun. This patron says he moved down the block.

Are you aware that Welch was in the building for over 20 minutes?

HE DID NOT STATE WHAT HE AND HIS FAMILY DID AFTER WELCH WALKED BY. HE DID NOT SAY THAT THEY WERE FRIGHTENED AND RAN OUT. NOTHING. He states all this clearly in the second video you post.

He said he noticed Welch thought he might a securtiy guard, but he says "I could see my wife saw something was wrong, moments, briefly after that one of the staff told me there was a gunman and we needed to get out. So my immediate reaction was to get my kids and get out. And that's what we did, we moved swiftly out of the place. Everyone was moving quickly out."

Says Welsh entered the back mystery room. Is that where they keep the "tower computer"?

There's no mystery about the back room. It opens to the alleyway and it's used for a couple of things.

When they have big concerts, it's the backstage, equipment load in area.

When they have small concerts, those are held in the back room.

They also rent it out for private parties.

The computer tower was in a small utility type closet. Alefantis said they used it as a coatroom and the computer was on the floor. You can see it at 3:45 in this video. http://video.foxnews.com/v/5250221515001/?#sp=show-clips

Dunno where that coatroom is, it could be in the backroom

WHY WAS THE WAITRESS NOT INTERVIEWED? NAMED?

You are anomaly hunting. It's looking for wierd little unexplained bits and ignoring the whole.

You also don't seem to know how law enforcement or media works.

The staff at Comet Ping Pong was almost certainly interviewed by the police and by the FBI and the criminal complaint is based on what law enforcement learned.

septimasexta ago

The guy that AP and Alex Jones interviewed said he arrived around 2:00 pm and had finished his pizza and he and his family were playing ping pong when Welsh allegedly walked to the back room. According to news and incident report, Comet employee called 911 at 3:00pm after encountering Welch near the back door and turned and ran out that same back door.

Please construct a TIMELINE for me of when and how many shots were fired and what was hit by those shots. Include who heard the shots and who witnessed Welsh shooting the gun(s). It has been claimed that the ground was shot, a locked closet, wall, and tower computer. Welsh, in the court report, said he fired a gun(s) two times. Police claimed that LATER they found 4 casings. Welsh was NOT charged with discharging a firearm in the restaurant, OR ATTEMPTED MURDER.

septimasexta ago

FOX LIED. They said assault with a DEADLY weapon. The charge was "assault with a dangerous weapon." A legal distinction. The closet door showed no gunshot. I posted pictures released "later" of the same door Alefantis opened, but it was damaged, allegedly from a bullet.

Alefantis was NOT at the restaurant when the incident occurred. Megan: "WHEN THIS MAN WALKED IN.....You were there that day, RIGHT?" James: "I was there EARLIER that day." MEGAN WANTS VIEWERS TO BELIEVE A LIE. She would have known if James was there during the incident. I would like to hear a recording of the 911 call to hear if the caller mentioned hearing gunshot(s).

MEGAN LIED: "When this man walked into your restaurant, with this gun, firing multiple shots..." SHE WANTED VIEWERS TO BELIEVE WELCH WALKED IN WITH GUNS BLAZING. SHE IS THE DEFINITION OF FAKE NEWS. JAMES DID NOT CORRECT. HE WASN'T EVEN THERE AND THEREFORE HE WASN'T A WITNESS.

MEGAN: "even D.C. police say (pizzagate) has no basis in fact..." ANOTHER LIE. D.C. POLICE HAVE NEVER INVESTIGATED IT. MEGAN: "Again, the D.C. police are saying this is FAKE, FAKE" Sorry Megan, YOU are fake news. D.C. police have NEVER investigated the allegations.

Regarding Instagram photos: James claims the taped up little girl is his "god daughter." NO PROOF. The walk-in cement cooler photo was labeled by James as "KILL ROOM". OOPS! MEGAN didn't tell us that. THE WHOLE INTERVIEW WAS A FAKE NEWS COVER-UP.

MEGAN : " ...a national debate over FAKE NEWS" This shows the media's initial attempt to discredit citizen journalist/researches by labeling them repeatedly as FAKE NEWS. Enter Trump. He turned around and put the label on THEM. LOL!

"Dunno where that coatroom is, it could be in the backroom" It's right next to the only back door in the restaurant. That means that that is the door the employee entered and then left when they saw Welch. Should have heard gunfire.

JAMES OPENS THE CLOSET DOOR WHICH DOES NOT SHOW DAMAGE SEEN IN LATER RELEASED POLICE PHOTOS. video: 3:50 JAMES: "The bullet went into our computer system" SHOWS AN ANGLED HOLE ON TOP OF COMPUTER CASE. Was this a SECOND shot? It wouldn't align with one shot in the door lock. Did Welsh make a statement on motive for shooting the computer? It wasn't on his list for alleged reasons to come to Comet.

NOTHING ADDS UP.

septimasexta ago

Regarding "computer tower", just realized the "shooting" occurred 2 WEEKS prior to the interview. Why didn't the police seize the computer as evidence? Why hadn't Comet fixed the computer by then? Did they want us to think this is an old computer they no longer use? Was this sending a message to the guy that reported them for cp on their computer? Yea. WHAT ARE THE ODDS?