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Vindicator ago

@IShallNotFear, I'm giving this the "Unverified" flair since many in the Chan thread think this is photoshopped.

Oh_Well_ian ago

I cannot believe you allow this shit to stay up... It's shopped and the PROOF in the chan is ridiculous. This SHIT is being spammed all over Voat and ridiculed.

what the actual fuck @vindicator? Is this what PG has become? FUCKING EMBARRASING

Vindicator ago

Our current fake news policy is to leave up one example with warning flairs to stop the spread, Ian. I will change the flair from "Unverified" to "Debunked" based on your examination article though.

IShallNotFear ago

You will see in my latest edit that I no longer believe this photo to be genuine. I can always count on pizzagate researchers to give me the facts, even if they aren't convenient.

Oh_Well_ian ago

thanks again... This is an important point in time in the investigation and shills are glowfags are peppering social media with disinformation, much of it to discredit our work and ridicule us.

Vindicator ago

Yep. In my opinion, tracking and exposing the disinfo it one of the most important things we do.

Oh_Well_ian ago

Gotta tell ya, when I see PG accounts of 1+ years siding with shills, echoing their positions, and demonstrating obvious bias and double standards, it tells me the whack-a-mole world championships are about to begin. Just like FOX has suddenly decided to pick up the narratives of CNN and MSNBC in over half their shows, there is going to be a break to destroy Pizzagate and a battle for the soul of the subverse. You know I have been consistent and we have had a number of go-arounds. Nobody could call me a big fan of yours, but you have been fair and represent a vast improvement over MF, who was always working against the core of PG.

I just saw this >> 'I have to go through all the necessary channels to prove it's FAKE'

WTF????? I think some researchers have it ASS BACKWARDS !!

No dopes.. You have to go through all the necessary channels to prove it's REAL

IShallNotFear ago

Understood, we need some more data to know for sure.

letsdothis2 ago

This is everysilversea https://www.instagram.com/p/BhmIOealrkj/?taken-by=everysilversea

https://imgur.com/a/dYz12Rq

She seems to confirm the image is of Obama : http://is2.4chan.org/pol/1529139853585.png

A bit about her, Annamarie Hope: https://imgur.com/a/Mndi40H

Worked at Mae Fah Luang Foundation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mae_Fah_Luang_Foundation

One of her friends: https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/in-rooms-photo-book-vol-2-2016-17#/. If you google her name 'Brittany Markert' and look at the images you'll see the odd stuff she's into.

http://www.pictame.com/user/in_rooms/1701023165/1425481463536683074_1701023165

Another image from Annamarie's instagram: https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=vermont+@everysilversea+instagram%22mount+mansfield%22&rlz=1C1CHBD_en-GBGB745GB745&tbm=isch&source=iu&ictx=1&fir=xhrx0k2sKypQTM%253A%252CJlWMeXYbKET1cM%252C_&usg=__6RpudqmxPBH6scQ4Ue2ZSiY_b1k%3D&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjj8say69fbAhUJJ8AKHcuACNcQ9QEIQzAH#imgrc=xhrx0k2sKypQTM:

Odd bunch.


EDIT : another connection on Hope's account is Danielle Glover https://twitter.com/dgover33/with_replies

They are connected on several platforms. Danielle stands out to me because of her digital background with the cryptocurrency community and tracking profiles (check out who her followers and who she's following on Twitter). I'm wondering if the Obama image was a genuine event or planted.

Her resume: https://www.behance. net/daniellego9108

Gover's last tweet: https://twitter.com/dgover33/status/990107303511703553

@realDonaldTrump taught me how to use Twitter

and here's another: https://twitter.com/dgover33/status/990084694967435264

What’s the plural of octopus?

That would be 'octopi'

This might be a bit of a stretch but when I google octopi: I came across the Octopi Project: ocotopiproject.com

From Facebook: https://imgur.com/a/FvaMUm2

The instagram account of Octopi Project (this has red flags all over it) https://www.instagram.com/the_octopi_project/

https://www.instagram.com/p/BcUvkBnhHan/?taken-by=the_octopi_project

Jon Whetlor is in the construction business : https://www.instagram.com/p/lxCadDkmrg/?taken-by=jonwhetlor ; https://www.instagram.com/p/jNo80akmqY/?taken-by=jonwhetlor

William Harvey Hospital http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4247462/Nurse-said-m-bored-rid-next.html

carmencita ago

All I can say It All Reeks. So Fake. We will look like Complete Disinfos if we attach ourselves to this kind of Propaganda.

Cc1914 ago

Is this not a legitimate comparison? I'm not familiar with fotoforensics and I'm not saying it's real or not real , but I guess we'll see http://fotoforensics.com/analysis.php?id=24381503fb626a9f2dec5eaa562600429e688b26.473606&show=ela

carmencita ago

The outfit is for real but he was slipped somehow. I am not foto specialist either but many are saying it is shopped. The black collar is a giveaway.

letsdothis2 ago

Found another Gover twitter account. This one is private: https://twitter.com/dgoverxo/followers

However, google gives us : https://twitter.com/jetjr82/status/380202232710713344

ping pong table anyone? https://twitter.com/jetjr82

Danielle Gover twitter pics: https://twicsy.com/i/DJrHTc

pizzagatecharlotte ago

I've found this which is the wedding Annmarie was referring to https://youtu.be/7or1UxdkWbQ

letsdothis2 ago

That's an interesting wedding. Think I'm going to try to find who was the event planner for that. Where does Annamarie refer to a wedding?

letsdothis2 ago

Here's another: https://www.instagram.com/p/BRiYiWMAICO/?taken-by=everysilversea and https://www.instagram.com/p/BGwBbr5qJ1f/?taken-by=everysilversea

Calling all my dementors ! : silver arrow through the night, silver arrow take thy plight !!! !!! @nathanielrussell

Nathaniel Russell on Paddle8 https://paddle8.com/work/nathaniel-russell/61886-workplace-inspirational-poster-set

Part of LACE : https://paddle8.com/auction/lace2016/

https://assets.paddle8.com/703/3527/130306/130306-1480557497-JOHNBALDESSARI_paddle8_fall2016-large.jpg

Obama and the photographer John Baldessari http://www.zimbio.com/Barack+Obama+John+Baldessari/pictures/pro

In the same album, Obama with Stephen King http://www.zimbio.com/pictures/Ss4ishUF_oq/Obama+Presents+National+Medal+Arts+National/iBS7WcFfels

http://welcometolace.org/about/history-and-mission/

Major funders such as the Getty and Warhol Foundations have invested in LACE for major presentations. LACE is deeply rooted in and embedded in the arts culture of Southern California.

LACE relocated to Hollywood in 1993 with the assistance of the CRA, and has served as a cultural anchor on Hollywood Blvd. for more than 20 years.

While the contemporary art community in Los Angeles has grown and expanded over the years, LACE plays a unique role in the L.A. art scene. Without the constraints of a commercial gallery, LACE is free to serve as venue for the incubation of and discourse on emerging and experimental works.


Talking US politics with Pagans, witches and warlocks

A community – one of the most misunderstood and disregarded of any in a nation that’s meant to respect freedom of religion – that will be voting in their droves are Pagans. Paganism was for a time the fastest growing religion in the U.S, and it seems the fear of the occult and Satanism has been permeating the political sphere very recently, following false rumours that one of Hillary Clinton’s staff was partaking in sex cult rituals with artist Marina Abramovic. Towards the beginning of the election we were granted with the video project 'Brujas Hex Trump', a response to what they see as Trump's racist platform. They used the “name-in-the-freezer” hex, invoking the Ice Queen to curse Trump. Then a fake flier by artist Nathaniel Russell called upon witches to hex Trump and the NRA.

Vindicator ago

Could you explain what fotoforensics is telling us about this photo? This is not an area of knowledge for me.

AnonDan ago

Not an expert, but it looks for small artifacts that are usually generated around the area where an image has been doctored. The fact that we see no artifacts around the area where we would expect there to be changes is a good indicator that the image is authentic.

Vindicator ago

Ah...thank you for that explanation.