Sorry, but, I'm not one of those superstitious folk who falls for all the fear-mongering and hysteria-pushing about "demonic" forces.
Knowledge surely does open doors, including one wherein you can see past all the "OMG SATAN[IC]/DEMON[IC]" hysteria and propaganda.
Fear, ignorance/bias & ego is what corrupts & conflates occultism/Satanism/Luciferianism and other ancient(many outdated) practices; it's all what you do with it and whether or not you're willing to let your beliefs and understanding evolve when presented with new information and experiences, while also keeping your inner self and ego in check; personal growth is important & balance is required in all things.
Gotta break past the aforementioned fear & ignorance/bias, in order to have the guts to not only explore the subjects properly, but also to name those who engage in corruption using ancient knowledge and symbolism as amplification and a means to communicate/scapegoat - indeed, the enemy expects you to remain silent in the face of their intimidation tactics, which are many(including the use of "Satanic symbolism" as a means of scapegoating Satanists and fooling people into thinking that Satanism is about pedophilia, cannibalism, human trafficking and world domination; ie, that dark awful "Satan/Devil worshippers" are trying to control you, thus making many people too scared to dig deeper and learn for themselves) and sometimes broad while other times being targeted on an individual level.
What's curious about this patent, is that it shows NXIVM having beef with Luciferianism; it's likely that NXIVM also has beef with Satanism, given how often people confuse the two and how there's always an underlying agenda to attack anything "Satanic", with Luciferianism often being lumped under the same category.Not that I'm a fan of Luciferianism, but, it begs questioning, why NXIVM would have beef with them...
If we take that and also look at the links between NXIVM & Scientology, a very interesting picture emerges and it, incidentally, ties back to Waco; not anything "Satanic" or "Demonic"...
So, please, spare me the "be careful ~ when dealing with demonic occult subjects" shit, as I already have more knowledge on and experience with what you and others term "demonic", than you do - hence why I'm able to pick apart the efforts of the enemy and show how they got away with their corruption for so long & that they have absolutely no affinity/loyalty to any single religion other than their own morbid syncretism & self-funding feedback cults/organizations such as NXIVM & Scientology - while others are still stuck trying to wage war against Luciferianism & Satanism - which, as it turns out, isexactly what the enemy wants you to do;I've been saying this for what feels like months going on at least a year now...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjYEnCSHl78 he was a harmless super breakaway 7 day adventist who had a weird prophecy belief based on misunderstandings of the Book of Revelation I've known dozens of people with that, some good some crappy NOOONNNEEE that worshiped the devil or practiced kabbalah...Koresh was not a pedophile, and he didn't promote of himself as a polygamist or any of the other stuff he just had a weird prophecy belief and a fatalistic the gov is going to kill me attitude...well it happened and the point of it was for those that mention the NWO/conspiracy make the common people smart/stupid/weird whatever look nuts and claim "independence" from the gov is a threat.
You clearly have no idea what you are talking about, Waco Branch Davidans were a breakaway Seven day Adventist group, the charges of pedophilia were debunked before and after and the mercs of the ATF went in guns blazing shooting infants in the head....dude for real stop...."CAN" "RICK ROSS" LOL
Funny that you went with that as the angle you assume I'm taking. It's okay, keep beeing a Scientologist cuck(with or without realizing it), I'm sure Hubbard will be waiting for you on the other side with an anal probing device prepped and ready.
Like I said, the pieces are already in place, you're just too inept to see beyond the surface in order to understand this proverbial game of chess--or, you already know the score and are otherwise shilling for NXIVM/Scientology et al - does not matter which.
Dude I'm not a scientologist what the heck,,,,Talmud and Kabbalah the prime movers https://www.commentarymagazine.com/articles/how-i-came-to-the-kabbalah/ You need to read all that baphomet trash Madonna does its comes straight from her Kabbalah training center. get real dude....understand belief systems and clandestine ops, and take the chill pill and do some real research,
I said Scientologist cuck and just like the rest of them, the next step in your script is to go on about jews/kabbalah, blah fucking blah. Not a shill? fine, you're just a fuckin' idiot sucked in by all the propaganda.
Props for calling out NoI and Scientology, but, you're doing exactlytheir work if you then fall for the bullshit "blame the jews/satanists/masons" mantra. You clearly haven't kept up with or bothered to properly read any of my work, so don't go telling me to "do some real research" until you've bothered to read what I have already put out there - keeping in mind that I have a fucktonne more on the way.
You need to understand things better here, if you don't want to cuck/shill for Scientology et al, then take a look at who's really aligned with them and who isn't - maybe then you'll understand the propaganda, black magick and traps at play here. Or continue being sucked in by the "OMG JEWS/SATANISTS/MASONS!" propaganda, whatever floats your boat... get it? No? Because you don't know shit.
Where to go? Not entirely sure. The Church of Satan may have enough on their site, I haven't looked through the entirety of it for many years...
Don't know if there's much in the way of Luciferianism online.
Wikipedia has entries on both, I'm sure.
Fundamentally speaking though, Satansim at it's core is not about the worship of "Satan" in any way shape or form - whereas Luciferianism does indeed worship Lucifer, the degree to which and in what context/ways, can vary between adherents.
Satanism deals with studying "the enemy"(of the self and the various religious accusations/depictions of "Satan"), ego, higher self, the effects of consciousness over matter, etc - the goal being self development and understanding how the inner and outer worlds interact, ideally to better one's own life and have the tools to do good(or bad, yay free will...) for others - through this undertaking(hard to call it a religion, really, it's decentralized despite that some formal organizations exist as hubs), one can learn a lot of things about how the human mind works and thus the ways in which black magick can be employed; What you do with it, is up to you; If you are righteous, expect the corrupt to come after you; If you are corrupt, expect the righteous to come for you...
This core practice dates back 10's of thousands of years, it just had different names at different points in time and like "Shamanism", "Satanism" finds it's roots in practices found all over the old/ancient world, incidentally the two are even intertwined - it's only in these modern times, that the term Satanism is seen and ultimately refers to what I've discussed here now and previously in RoC - 13: "Eh... what's up, Doc?" | Origin of the enemy(funnily enough, that thread provoked one hell of a spam-fit from one of the most vocal shill-stalkers I have here). Which is itself starting to show relevance again per my most recent entry:
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argosciv ago
Oh Keith... what a fucking twit.
Thanks for the ammo, lovely1!
I'll address this in Root of Corruption also, in an upcoming entry.
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theoldones ago
be careful of what thoughts and words you use, and what names you name, when dealing with demonic occult subjects.
knowledge opens doors.
argosciv ago
Pfft.
Sorry, but, I'm not one of those superstitious folk who falls for all the fear-mongering and hysteria-pushing about "demonic" forces.
Knowledge surely does open doors, including one wherein you can see past all the "OMG SATAN[IC]/DEMON[IC]" hysteria and propaganda.
Fear, ignorance/bias & ego is what corrupts & conflates occultism/Satanism/Luciferianism and other ancient(many outdated) practices; it's all what you do with it and whether or not you're willing to let your beliefs and understanding evolve when presented with new information and experiences, while also keeping your inner self and ego in check; personal growth is important & balance is required in all things.
Gotta break past the aforementioned fear & ignorance/bias, in order to have the guts to not only explore the subjects properly, but also to name those who engage in corruption using ancient knowledge and symbolism as amplification and a means to communicate/scapegoat - indeed, the enemy expects you to remain silent in the face of their intimidation tactics, which are many(including the use of "Satanic symbolism" as a means of scapegoating Satanists and fooling people into thinking that Satanism is about pedophilia, cannibalism, human trafficking and world domination; ie, that dark awful "Satan/Devil worshippers" are trying to control you, thus making many people too scared to dig deeper and learn for themselves) and sometimes broad while other times being targeted on an individual level.
What's curious about this patent, is that it shows NXIVM having beef with Luciferianism; it's likely that NXIVM also has beef with Satanism, given how often people confuse the two and how there's always an underlying agenda to attack anything "Satanic", with Luciferianism often being lumped under the same category. Not that I'm a fan of Luciferianism, but, it begs questioning, why NXIVM would have beef with them...
If we take that and also look at the links between NXIVM & Scientology, a very interesting picture emerges and it, incidentally, ties back to Waco; not anything "Satanic" or "Demonic"...
So, please, spare me the "be careful ~ when dealing with demonic occult subjects" shit, as I already have more knowledge on and experience with what you and others term "demonic", than you do - hence why I'm able to pick apart the efforts of the enemy and show how they got away with their corruption for so long & that they have absolutely no affinity/loyalty to any single religion other than their own morbid syncretism & self-funding feedback cults/organizations such as NXIVM & Scientology - while others are still stuck trying to wage war against Luciferianism & Satanism - which, as it turns out, is exactly what the enemy wants you to do; I've been saying this for what feels like months going on at least a year now...
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urbanmoving ago
WACO has zero ties to NXVIM, also all these satanic org NXVIM, The Finders,COS, TOS all connect to the CIA and the synagogue
urbanmoving ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjYEnCSHl78 he was a harmless super breakaway 7 day adventist who had a weird prophecy belief based on misunderstandings of the Book of Revelation I've known dozens of people with that, some good some crappy NOOONNNEEE that worshiped the devil or practiced kabbalah...Koresh was not a pedophile, and he didn't promote of himself as a polygamist or any of the other stuff he just had a weird prophecy belief and a fatalistic the gov is going to kill me attitude...well it happened and the point of it was for those that mention the NWO/conspiracy make the common people smart/stupid/weird whatever look nuts and claim "independence" from the gov is a threat.
argosciv ago
Silly blind sheep.
Or silly shill...
Doesn't matter which. All the pieces are already there if you care enough to look and actually see beyond the surface, pleb.
urbanmoving ago
You clearly have no idea what you are talking about, Waco Branch Davidans were a breakaway Seven day Adventist group, the charges of pedophilia were debunked before and after and the mercs of the ATF went in guns blazing shooting infants in the head....dude for real stop...."CAN" "RICK ROSS" LOL
argosciv ago
Funny that you went with that as the angle you assume I'm taking. It's okay, keep beeing a Scientologist cuck(with or without realizing it), I'm sure Hubbard will be waiting for you on the other side with an anal probing device prepped and ready.
Bit worried about what's coming next, are ya?
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Rob Zombie - Never Gonna Stop (The Red Red Kroovy)
Like I said, the pieces are already in place, you're just too inept to see beyond the surface in order to understand this proverbial game of chess--or, you already know the score and are otherwise shilling for NXIVM/Scientology et al - does not matter which.
urbanmoving ago
https://www.henrymakow.com/2014/05/Strange-Bedfellows-Nation-of-Islam-and-Scientology.html
urbanmoving ago
Dude I'm not a scientologist what the heck,,,,Talmud and Kabbalah the prime movers https://www.commentarymagazine.com/articles/how-i-came-to-the-kabbalah/ You need to read all that baphomet trash Madonna does its comes straight from her Kabbalah training center. get real dude....understand belief systems and clandestine ops, and take the chill pill and do some real research,
argosciv ago
I said Scientologist cuck and just like the rest of them, the next step in your script is to go on about jews/kabbalah, blah fucking blah. Not a shill? fine, you're just a fuckin' idiot sucked in by all the propaganda.
Props for calling out NoI and Scientology, but, you're doing exactly their work if you then fall for the bullshit "blame the jews/satanists/masons" mantra. You clearly haven't kept up with or bothered to properly read any of my work, so don't go telling me to "do some real research" until you've bothered to read what I have already put out there - keeping in mind that I have a fucktonne more on the way.
You need to understand things better here, if you don't want to cuck/shill for Scientology et al, then take a look at who's really aligned with them and who isn't - maybe then you'll understand the propaganda, black magick and traps at play here. Or continue being sucked in by the "OMG JEWS/SATANISTS/MASONS!" propaganda, whatever floats your boat... get it? No? Because you don't know shit.
lovely1 ago
i believe he wanted to be able to identify infiltrators. this was probably precisely the function of the dr who was conducting experiments https://www.google.com/amp/s/nypost.com/2018/05/05/nxivm-doctor-charged-with-conducting-human-experiments/amp/
argosciv ago
Yeah, I see where your head's at with that. Can't say I disagree... let's see how far we can take it, got a bit of a backlog at the moment though.
dundundunnnnn ago
Uhhh, this is me.
Where would I go to read about the differences?
argosciv ago
Where to go? Not entirely sure. The Church of Satan may have enough on their site, I haven't looked through the entirety of it for many years...
Don't know if there's much in the way of Luciferianism online.
Wikipedia has entries on both, I'm sure.
Fundamentally speaking though, Satansim at it's core is not about the worship of "Satan" in any way shape or form - whereas Luciferianism does indeed worship Lucifer, the degree to which and in what context/ways, can vary between adherents.
Satanism deals with studying "the enemy"(of the self and the various religious accusations/depictions of "Satan"), ego, higher self, the effects of consciousness over matter, etc - the goal being self development and understanding how the inner and outer worlds interact, ideally to better one's own life and have the tools to do good(or bad, yay free will...) for others - through this undertaking(hard to call it a religion, really, it's decentralized despite that some formal organizations exist as hubs), one can learn a lot of things about how the human mind works and thus the ways in which black magick can be employed; What you do with it, is up to you; If you are righteous, expect the corrupt to come after you; If you are corrupt, expect the righteous to come for you...
This core practice dates back 10's of thousands of years, it just had different names at different points in time and like "Shamanism", "Satanism" finds it's roots in practices found all over the old/ancient world, incidentally the two are even intertwined - it's only in these modern times, that the term Satanism is seen and ultimately refers to what I've discussed here now and previously in RoC - 13: "Eh... what's up, Doc?" | Origin of the enemy(funnily enough, that thread provoked one hell of a spam-fit from one of the most vocal shill-stalkers I have here). Which is itself starting to show relevance again per my most recent entry:
RoC - Annex: Amin | Weinstein | Bay | Masterson | Scientology | Sep 11 | Black September
twistedmac11 ago
You can start here: https://www.thoughtco.com/how-luciferians-differ-from-satanists-95678
cyks ago
don't cross the streams