Which is theologically impossible. Until science is able to definitively establish the existence of demons and possession, it is a matter firmly within the boundaries of religion, as in, Christianity. Only through Jesus is there deliverance from the demonic.
in this case its measuring differences of brain function (i think?) and comparing them to other responses, which is a mental effect that can be evoced by either a d- -mon or lying or any other stress or falsehood
which is really, really, really fucking insidious, but clever
This is partly why the communists and the other nasty organizations embraced satanism. It allows them to operate freely under the guise of "freedom of religion". They can mask their weird shit as religious practices and claim to be prosecuted for their strange religion, not because they are dangerous political agents. To an atheist this makes perfect sense on paper.
but when you speak of the devil, he tends to show up.
L Ron Hubbard figured this out, and based $cientology off of this. They have a secret police force that operates brazenly in the open, and the government is hard pressed to do much against them.
The only reason Scientology is considered an official religion is because they blackmailed the head of the IRS and they brought frivolous lawsuits against multiple tax agents. They were so aggravated with everything that they finally just let them have religious status so they could be tax exempt. They know that they're not a real religion they just don't want to have to deal with their s***.
Makes sense that a key gatekeeper would be a 'professional' who is able to examine members [& infiltrating members] in a private, 1-on-1 setting. As with most "Secret Societies" (and I'm in a few -- mostly related to BSA/Scouting), there are certain phrases and hand signs that signal a response. If you don't get a correct response from your hailing sign, you've likely got an Eavesdropper/ non-member on your hands. Interesting find...
OA was founded by a 32º mason in 1915 and like masonic lodges.... they are all different. You may more easily get adopted into one masonic lodge or black balled form another. When Travelling you have to submit your papers in advance announcing a traveling member will join in open lodge. Lodges that are more exclusive will not have guest at all times and will groom those they want to stop by more often to stop in. It's a fraternity within a fraternity. From there opens the door into rosicrucianism etc... The OA I'm sure has it's de molay dual members concentrated in different lodges. I assure you there are masons working with BSA now SA closely.
Being a 3rd degree Master Mason myself -- I can assure you that the ceremonies in the Boy Scouts Order of the Arrow (and Firecrafter) have roots in the Masonic Lodge.
At times, the similarities are uncanny to the point of Copy-Paste. I've had conversations with my father -- also in the OA, Firecrafter, and a Past Master of our Lodge -- about the similarities between the ceremonies.
As for my previous comment, I still think that a Professional Gatekeeper Doctor would be the perfect person to examine in a closed setting whether or not a person is aligned with the cult or is seeking to spy from the inside. (Very similar to the Tyler's role in Freemasonry, or Nutiket's ceremonial role in OA -- i.e. to keep out Trespassers).
remember.... the Hiram Abiff tale is just an opportune overlay itself. Copy paste. I think your in a deputized goi mingle with the Jews program. My understanding is it's all cryptic jews attempting to pull off one world religion centered around the rebuilt temple that gets the pope and any who they can to unite with this mess.
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theoldones ago
thats, oddly specific but ive got a friend who claims to have seen an exorcism before, so what in the fuck was this cult toying with
dear fucking god, if they were undertaking occult research regrading d- -mons that means they are summoning some dark shit out there.
lovely1 ago
no i believe he wanted to be able to identify infiltrators. this is probably precisely what the function of the dr who was conducting experiments https://www.google.com/amp/s/nypost.com/2018/05/05/nxivm-doctor-charged-with-conducting-human-experiments/amp/
theoldones ago
so, designing scientific defenses against infiltration by the devil?
(shivers)
Justin_TeroG8 ago
(double shivers)
tholinz ago
Which is theologically impossible. Until science is able to definitively establish the existence of demons and possession, it is a matter firmly within the boundaries of religion, as in, Christianity. Only through Jesus is there deliverance from the demonic.
theoldones ago
in this case its measuring differences of brain function (i think?) and comparing them to other responses, which is a mental effect that can be evoced by either a d- -mon or lying or any other stress or falsehood
which is really, really, really fucking insidious, but clever
senpaithatignoresyou ago
This is partly why the communists and the other nasty organizations embraced satanism. It allows them to operate freely under the guise of "freedom of religion". They can mask their weird shit as religious practices and claim to be prosecuted for their strange religion, not because they are dangerous political agents. To an atheist this makes perfect sense on paper.
but when you speak of the devil, he tends to show up.
L Ron Hubbard figured this out, and based $cientology off of this. They have a secret police force that operates brazenly in the open, and the government is hard pressed to do much against them.
SYNCORSWIM ago
The only reason Scientology is considered an official religion is because they blackmailed the head of the IRS and they brought frivolous lawsuits against multiple tax agents. They were so aggravated with everything that they finally just let them have religious status so they could be tax exempt. They know that they're not a real religion they just don't want to have to deal with their s***.
EricKaliberhall ago
Yeah, Shit like this: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XyNh1j3dsp8
senpaithatignoresyou ago
From what i understand, it was a bit more. Allegedly they had some serious dirt on the IRS head.
SYNCORSWIM ago
I know. They blackmailed him with the dirt.
theoldones ago
any evocable entity hears you when you speak of them.
EricKaliberhall ago
Are you speaking of Hillary?
ben_matlock ago
You are the one who spoke the Evil One's name, sir.
EricKaliberhall ago
Oops! :)
lovely1 ago
no. he developed a test to weed out infiltrators to his cult because he is involved in illegal crimes such as child sex trafficking
BKAtheManScout ago
Makes sense that a key gatekeeper would be a 'professional' who is able to examine members [& infiltrating members] in a private, 1-on-1 setting. As with most "Secret Societies" (and I'm in a few -- mostly related to BSA/Scouting), there are certain phrases and hand signs that signal a response. If you don't get a correct response from your hailing sign, you've likely got an Eavesdropper/ non-member on your hands. Interesting find...
RickFlairWOOOOOO ago
OA was founded by a 32º mason in 1915 and like masonic lodges.... they are all different. You may more easily get adopted into one masonic lodge or black balled form another. When Travelling you have to submit your papers in advance announcing a traveling member will join in open lodge. Lodges that are more exclusive will not have guest at all times and will groom those they want to stop by more often to stop in. It's a fraternity within a fraternity. From there opens the door into rosicrucianism etc... The OA I'm sure has it's de molay dual members concentrated in different lodges. I assure you there are masons working with BSA now SA closely.
BKAtheManScout ago
Being a 3rd degree Master Mason myself -- I can assure you that the ceremonies in the Boy Scouts Order of the Arrow (and Firecrafter) have roots in the Masonic Lodge. At times, the similarities are uncanny to the point of Copy-Paste. I've had conversations with my father -- also in the OA, Firecrafter, and a Past Master of our Lodge -- about the similarities between the ceremonies.
As for my previous comment, I still think that a Professional Gatekeeper Doctor would be the perfect person to examine in a closed setting whether or not a person is aligned with the cult or is seeking to spy from the inside. (Very similar to the Tyler's role in Freemasonry, or Nutiket's ceremonial role in OA -- i.e. to keep out Trespassers).
RickFlairWOOOOOO ago
remember.... the Hiram Abiff tale is just an opportune overlay itself. Copy paste. I think your in a deputized goi mingle with the Jews program. My understanding is it's all cryptic jews attempting to pull off one world religion centered around the rebuilt temple that gets the pope and any who they can to unite with this mess.