Scientology and the aftermath is a tv show on a&e which documents people's experiences with scientology.
Link to show: https://www.aetv.com/shows/leah-remini-scientology-and-the-aftermath
So I have been rewatching scientology and the aftermath, and from the first episode, some comments have been made or the way things have been worded imply that a large amount of the people that are on this show have been sexually abused since they were children! Leah came into the church around 14, And almost immediately gets picked to be in the commercials and get head shots and other perks, how much do you wanna bet that there was some Harvey Weinstein type situation going on with whoever it was that was giving her the success.. the guy mark, said he was in the church since 4 yrs old! And then he was "hand picked" to be one of hubbard's "boys"... a comment by the hammer throwing guy was literally! "The church RAPED us, what were we supposed to do!"... I'm only on episode 7 of season 1, and there are so many vague comments made, like they had to edit out the "legitly awful" stuff due to legal reasons... what if the church is nothing but a child sex trafficking ring?! That literally everything that they do is to groom people into being sexually assaulted and stockholmed! Is the FBI looking into this? Does scientology supply the children to high up elites? Has any scientology boat docked at "little st james island"? They separate the kids from their parents, insert themselves as the authority, many of these people who have been in it since childhood are reporting sexual abuse... all of these things and more are adding up to intentional grooming of families and children to facilitate sexual perversions of the scientology leaders... scientology preys on people with "familiy" issues, especially single women with children...
Like what if a bunch of high up celebrities are friends with scientology celebrities just to use scientology for their endless supply of meek, obedient, parentless children.... and when they threaten to expose scientology, they are suicided...
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djaeveloplyse ago
I'm ex-Scientologist, was in as a kid, parents were in since way before I was born, both in pretty high up positions, and I gotta say, I just don't see it guys. I've still got family deep in, many friends both out and still in- not one of them has shown any sign of the type of behavioral problems that child rape victims generally exhibit. Scientologists are really puritan, honestly. I never read anything in the religion to give me the idea that child rape would be condoned, in fact any and all perversion even pretty basic kinks are considered aberration from sanity that you need counseling (auditing, in Scientology terms) to stop exhibiting.
And, Scientology has been a long-time enemy of the cabal, at least on surface inspection. Cabal controlled nations have historically tried repeatedly to outlaw and destroy the religion, and LRH considered the CIA to be the most evil organization on earth, and developed his own intelligence agency within the religion for the express purpose of countering their attempts to destroy him.
Now, don't get me wrong, LRH was a loon, and his character flaws have become the flaws within the religion he started. It has good parts, but it's obviously not the answer to the salvation of man that LRH claimed it was.
argosciv ago
Obvious Scientologist shill is obvious.
Fuck off.
I for one, see through your little attempt to dissuade investigation. You can act offended and say that I'm wrong all you like, you might even convince others with such an act, but, not me.
djaeveloplyse ago
Yeah, I'm not a shill, so you don't see through anything, you're making things up to justify your own opinion.
I don't dissuade investigation at all, everyone should investigate everything and everyone they suspect. I'll change my mind the moment I see evidence that makes sense to me. As it stands now, I don't see it.
I'm not offended at all, where did you get that idea? You're acting way more offended than I am, all I did was express my doubts about your theory. If you can't handle that, perhaps your theory isn't that strong? Go investigate and find something better than "They said rape, but in context meaning not actual rape, therefore definitely actual rape!"
argosciv ago
As expected, you're using a condescending tone in order to undermine the better judgement of people here. I didn't say you were already acting offended, I said go ahead and do it, here you are now doing it. Sure, you're not overtly displaying it, but, I know how your kind works and the ways in which you try to bypass the reasoning of others when you're in damage-control mode.
Fuck off.
Even supposing for a moment that you aren't a shill for Scientology, you can still go ahead and fuck off - there's plenty out there to explain how fucked Scientology is, not least of all, how legitimate ex-Scientologists are treated after leaving.
Oh look at that, the stock-standard "20 years" card... >
I repeat, with sincere derision and conviction, fuck off.
djaeveloplyse ago
-I'm- using a condescending tone? LOL, have you read what you wrote to me first? The only thing I'm doing is adding my experience to the discussion so everyone has more information to make their own judgements better. If you don't like it, I'm okay with that.
No, I'm still not acting offended, you're projecting.
Absolutely, and I'm among those who explain that. But, there's a big gap between making people disconnect from their families, and screwing people out of tens of thousands of dollars, to being a pedophile rape cult. I have hours and hours of stories and explanations for how fucked Scientology is, and not a single instance have I heard of even a shade of child rape going on.
In kind: no. How about you fuck off? Obviously this discussion is causing you anguish.
argosciv ago
The difference here is that I'm not at all hiding my attitude - I'm not trying to deceive others here, I'm being entirely up front.
You on the other hand, continue to try to mask what you're trying to do in defending Scientology while trying to curry favor by denigrating LRH. But then you try to make it sound like the gaps cannot be filled, a clear attempt to dissuade others. Ironically enough, I personally am already filling in those gaps, but, I'm sure you know that hence your attempt to muddy the waters.
You told me to go investigate and yet I have already done so - if you had done so yourself, you'd POSSIBLY be able to make the same connections I have, but, given your approach here, it's clear that your interest is in keeping people from getting too close to Scientology - whoops, too late.
So once again, fuck off.
If you truly had "20 years" experience with Scientology, you'd know just how small the so-called gaps are and how easy they are to fill. I'm calling bullshit on your little story. You're a fucking pretender - the irony there being that LRH was also a pretender.
djaeveloplyse ago
I'm not hiding anything either (besides details which could expose my identity, obviously). I just happen to have good manners.
You're full of shit. No one should join Scientology, and the religion should abandoned by everyone in it. I'm in no way trying to win any points, that's just the truth. But that's still a long way from Scientology being a pedophile cult.
Oh please, as if anyone like you is going to be dissuaded. Any attempt to dissuade you will simply make you feel vindicated and energize you to look harder. I'm only saying that what's been posted so far doesn't support what the conclusions being drawn. Anyone who disagrees should look for better proof.
See? Did I dissuade you?
Man, I'm just some random dude on the internet, I'm not spying on you. Calm down before you put yourself in an early grave, lol.
Alright, then show me some better proof.
I think every pedo should be put to death, and if Scientologists are, then I want it known and I want them dead. So by all means, prove it, my mind is open.
You first.
Fill them. Or quit pretending.
argosciv ago
LOL! You're really not good at this...
*/clap clap* for the childish use of "pretending" after I called you a pretender... do you really think people can't see through shit like that?
Already have and am, again, you know this, hence why you're doing what you do best, which is try to confuse the issue and otherwise attack me for not spelling it out right here in this exchange. If you're not a shill(which I sincerely doubt, given that you're going through all the same motions of a shill), you need to take a look around, because as I said, I'm already looking into the fuckery that is Scientology/NXIVM(et al) which you're so determined to say is not related here, because too many gaps or whatever the fuck your reason is.
Saying you're an ex-Scientologist with "20 years" experience while bashing LRH, does not automatically mean we have to take your word for it, especially when you follow up with claims that there's too many gaps but then demand to be spoon-fed when faced with the thought that "oh fuck, maybe someone already filled them!"
You're the pretender here - as I said earlier, you might be able to convince others, but, not me. I've seen this same tired old routine from people like you, countless times in the last few years. You're just another in a long line. On the minuscule chance that you aren't the shill you come across as, you need to have a good hard think about why your behavior is striking not only myself, but others downvoating you, as shill-like.
I'll say it again, not that I have authority over you or that you need to listen at all, but, fuck off.
I'll also do you the courtesy of informing you that I'm now blocking you, so that you aren't filling up my notifications - you will probably determine that to be rude and/or a victory for you, go right ahead, you can't stop what's coming no matter how hard or how subtly you try.
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djaeveloplyse ago
You're really going to call me childish for saying your own childish nonsense back to you? Are even aware of yourself?
No shill would ever put in the amount of effort I'm putting in to counter troll you. Shilling is a shotgun tactic, there's nothing to gain by engaging a hard target with no value and no possibility of making progress with.
Lol, please tell me how those two are connected in your warped mind. Man I feel gyped by Scientology, why didn't I get any sex slaves?
No, certainly not.
I said nothing like that.
Just because you say you've "filled all the gaps" doesn't mean I have to take your word for it.
Uh huh. Post your proof man, or shut up.
Fine with me, I'm not trying to convince you. I'd just like you to convince me by posting your proof that Scientology is a pedo sex cult.
Nah, I understand the knee-jerk reaction to downvote anything remotely positive said about Scientology, I don't blame anyone for down voting me. Doesn't mean I'm not going to tell the truth as I see it from my somewhat unique perspective.
You first.
LLLLOOOOLLLLLL what a loser.
Nah, that's not rude, it's pathetic. And, obviously, I've won- YOU FUCKED OFF FIRST, MORON. Haha. You brag and brag and brag about all these gaps you've already filled, and can't post one word that fills a single tiny gap anywhere. Yeah, I won, and you lost. LOL
If Scientology is a pedo sex cult, then I would kill everyone of the evil bastards myself. I doubt you're half as willing to do that as I am, since you're so internet tough.