Scientology and the aftermath is a tv show on a&e which documents people's experiences with scientology.
Link to show: https://www.aetv.com/shows/leah-remini-scientology-and-the-aftermath
So I have been rewatching scientology and the aftermath, and from the first episode, some comments have been made or the way things have been worded imply that a large amount of the people that are on this show have been sexually abused since they were children! Leah came into the church around 14, And almost immediately gets picked to be in the commercials and get head shots and other perks, how much do you wanna bet that there was some Harvey Weinstein type situation going on with whoever it was that was giving her the success.. the guy mark, said he was in the church since 4 yrs old! And then he was "hand picked" to be one of hubbard's "boys"... a comment by the hammer throwing guy was literally! "The church RAPED us, what were we supposed to do!"... I'm only on episode 7 of season 1, and there are so many vague comments made, like they had to edit out the "legitly awful" stuff due to legal reasons... what if the church is nothing but a child sex trafficking ring?! That literally everything that they do is to groom people into being sexually assaulted and stockholmed! Is the FBI looking into this? Does scientology supply the children to high up elites? Has any scientology boat docked at "little st james island"? They separate the kids from their parents, insert themselves as the authority, many of these people who have been in it since childhood are reporting sexual abuse... all of these things and more are adding up to intentional grooming of families and children to facilitate sexual perversions of the scientology leaders... scientology preys on people with "familiy" issues, especially single women with children...
Like what if a bunch of high up celebrities are friends with scientology celebrities just to use scientology for their endless supply of meek, obedient, parentless children.... and when they threaten to expose scientology, they are suicided...
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djaeveloplyse ago
I'm ex-Scientologist, was in as a kid, parents were in since way before I was born, both in pretty high up positions, and I gotta say, I just don't see it guys. I've still got family deep in, many friends both out and still in- not one of them has shown any sign of the type of behavioral problems that child rape victims generally exhibit. Scientologists are really puritan, honestly. I never read anything in the religion to give me the idea that child rape would be condoned, in fact any and all perversion even pretty basic kinks are considered aberration from sanity that you need counseling (auditing, in Scientology terms) to stop exhibiting.
And, Scientology has been a long-time enemy of the cabal, at least on surface inspection. Cabal controlled nations have historically tried repeatedly to outlaw and destroy the religion, and LRH considered the CIA to be the most evil organization on earth, and developed his own intelligence agency within the religion for the express purpose of countering their attempts to destroy him.
Now, don't get me wrong, LRH was a loon, and his character flaws have become the flaws within the religion he started. It has good parts, but it's obviously not the answer to the salvation of man that LRH claimed it was.
Baichu ago
OMG, you obviously know nothing about scientology do you? Puritans.....hardly. LRH was a loon....that is putting it lightly. He loved his boys in the sea org. A long time enemy of the cabal????...Wow, your comment is idiocracy at it's finest.
djaeveloplyse ago
It's entirely possible, but I've never seen any evidence of that, only people on the internet saying it's a fact.
What is your explanation for every cabal controlled government on the planet trying to outlaw Scientology?
Baichu ago
Well, sorry to hear that you've been born into and wasted your life for 20 years in a known cult run by an absolute power hungry freak and then later on an even more power hungry freak. When one listens to Ronnie spouting off about xenu and knowing that people believe his stories, it is simply laughable to those outside of the cult. Every cabal controlled government trying to outlaw scientology???? Oh, then you are talking about every government in every country on the planet. Do you honestly think that the 5 foot nothing little twerp that is in charge now, isn't in deep with some government cabal? He certainly is connected with hollywood and when one is connected with hollywood........well, it's just evil at it's finest. You are brainwashed to think that scientology isn't involved in some way with some pretty nasty stuff. I wonder how much money they've stolen from you to take their ludicrous courses. They remind me of the freemasons.....you go along with it, doing your duty to the cult and then you get to a certain level, you know the level that makes you question everything because what you've learned or what you are asked to do goes against every fibre of your being. Pride and ego are very very powerful and to admit that you've been duped is difficult and perhaps the payoff is better than admitting one was wrong. Never trust a cultist organization, especially one that keeps taking your money and expects you to continue bowing to the master even though you know deep down there is something terribly wrong with it.
djaeveloplyse ago
IT wasn't a total waste, but I appreciate the sympathy.
I never got that high, 95% of Scientologists never got that high.
I find it about as laughable as the Jesus story. I believe neither.
Pretty much, yeah. DO you see every government treating the Catholic Church the same way? They're a known peso cult, proven with thousands, if not tens of thousands, of rape cases, systemic across the world. Why do the same governments trying to outlaw Scientology protect Catholicism?
I sure don't see any obvious proof of that. Does he constantly hang out with known cabal members? Is he inexplicably loved and admired by cabal members? Has he been documented to attend cabal parties? Has he gone to Epstein's island? If he's in deep, he's doing a remarkable job of hiding it compared to all the rest.
I think it's a mistake to think every single person in Hollywood is evil, you're going to lead yourself down an endless list of false leads with that mentality.
No, I'm not brainwashed, there's just no evidence of it. Find me court cases of Scientologists raping kids, find me leaked emails with pedophiliac code words, find me something with even a shred of substance. I'm not brainwashed, just skeptical.
About $15k. Courses done while on staff are free (though you get paid almost nothing, of course). I'm not filled with regrets about it, I make plenty of money, and it wasn't ever a significant financial burden on me or my family.
Yeah, that's exactly right. The lower level stuff is actually pretty common sense stuff, and by my experience really helps people. Then they get complacent about questioning it, and start thinking "if LRH was right about all this stuff so far, he must be right about this crazy stuff now." As I said earlier, most people never got to the crazy parts.
I agree completely, but when I was in I never felt like I was bowing to anyone. Believe it or not, Scientology can have a very positive atmosphere where self determination is respected and supported. When I was on staff, I witnessed it turn further and further away from that sort of atmosphere towards fanaticism, that's why I left. There are good things about Scientology, but it is sabotaged by the flaws in the religion which are based in LRH's character flaws.
Baichu ago
Thank you for your thoughtful comments.
Hollywood is one of the roots of depraved evil and I do not doubt for a minute that any known celeb signs in blood just like the music industry. I truly despise anything that spews from it's ugly, self-absorbed nonsense....people and the movies they produce, the whole gamut.
Yes, it is as laughable as buddha's story, mohammed's story and the story of any cult, new or old.
I understand there are good things about Scientology...I really do. I've read every book I could get my hands on,even though they were written by ex-scientologists. There wouldn't be such a mass following if there wasn't something good in it. It can rid some nasty thought processes but so can devoted meditation.
I just do not believe that the 'leader' is on the up and up.....at all. And you confirm it in a way by saying that you saw it turn further and further toward fanaticism. The problem in any organization almost always stems from the top. When you start to add hollywood celebrities, build a separate place for them, there is something about it that stinks. Most cults are the same however. Anyone famous is always exalted.
Catholicism is protected because they've given it all over to the luciferians. The rape of children in the catholic church has gone on for centuries. Perhaps scientology hasn't been around long enough for some of the dirt to be dug up.
djaeveloplyse ago
It certainly is, but it is still a mistake to condemn people without evidence. Obviously, there are far more guilty than we can prove, but we should start with what we have evidence of.
Scientology auditing is a bit like guided meditation combined with cognitive behavioral therapy. It's surprisingly effective, and probably the root of most Scientologist's trust in LRH. I wish LRH had been a rational and normal person and just funded real science into the use of an e-meter in psychological therapy rather than gone off the rails.
He is a total tyrant nut, but from my inside perspective he seemed to be genuine in his motives. He isn't getting rich or living a lavish lifestyle or anything.
LRH and Scientology have a thing about artists, they're considered a bit sacred. The stated purpose of "Celebrity Centre" was to aid artists in controlling their life so they don't crash and burn, and avoiding the type of people who leach off of artists and make them crash and burn. The idea being that when people see that Scientologist celebrities are stable, decent people, as opposed to the crazies throughout the rest of Hollywood, it would be positive PR for the religion. That's a noble goal, on its face, and if it was true, would be a fine thing. It falls apart if the religion is false, and the pursuit of celebrity becomes tainted with ulterior motives besides genuinely wishing well for talented but spiritually vulnerable people.
Exactly right.
NXIVM was protected, it's far younger than Scientology. And, there are thousands of ex-Scientologists who would be willing to spill the dirt, and have. There are entire websites devoted to ex-Scientologists talking to each other about their experiences and comparing notes to put the dirt together to hopefully crash the religion. I've never seen a shred of pedophilia or even any sex perversion mentioned.
Baichu ago
One last thing (maybe). The evidence of hollywood's depravity is in their content and the people who act out their content.
argosciv ago
I can assure you, Freemasons have and want nothing to do with Scientology and it's agents/adherents. Scientology 'stole' from Freemasonry and also did(and continue to do) a hell of a lot worse to them and others.
djaeveloplyse ago
Freemasons are a known Illuminati captured organization, so what is the implication if the Freemasons hate Scientologists? The upper ranks of the Freemasons are all satanic child rapists and child murderers. What do you think Scientology has done which is worse than that?
argosciv ago
Theere it is, typical anti-Satanist/anti-Freemason propaganda, textbook Scientologist shillery.
MichaelClayton ago
Hey Idiot. Scientology is based off freemasonry and satanism. Hubbard lived with Jack Parsons was and his family was into Crowley black magick.
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djaeveloplyse ago
Lol wat...