@vindicator and I have a slight difference of opinion on this. he originally asked to flair the first thread for Rule 2 violation. personally, I fail to see how this satisfies rule 1. even if ES is DK, do we have evidence that he is actively working for shareblue to throw 'shade' on our investigation? because if not, I don't think these kinds of submissions belong here at all.
It would be my preference for you to remove it and repost to v/pizzagatewhatever. so until we hear from @Vindicator or @kevdude, I'm going to give this a 24hr flair and see if you can show how ES (or DK) is involved providing assistance or protection to the cover-up of child abuse by the global elite.
Sorry I did not see this until just now, Ben. Had real life responsibilities that kept me away. As written, this didn't really fulfill Rule 1. I agree with your assessment.
If I may ask, hypothetically speaking, how could this have this fulfilled Rule 1? Perhaps by showing that ES is indeed DK and having evidence of being on the payroll of shareblue or their ilk?
Here's my perspective: Up until just very recently, our policy was to remove any and all disinfo posts immediately. That is what the rules were created to do. Disinfo just doesn't hold up when subjected to them. The problem with that was that MF did that daily, and people couldn't see the disinfo narratives being pushed and who was doing it. All they concluded was that he was a terrible censor and morale went to shit. I have always felt it was a better approach to scrutinize disinfo -- put it to the test and expose it's lack of foundation. Only then does it lose it's power. Moving discussion of it off the board where no one will see it prevents that.
Hypothetically speaking, how could this have this fulfilled Rule 1?
I don't think you need a screenshot of a paycheck to discuss whether someone is likely an enemy of Pizzagate. We can judge them by their fruits. I think making a case demonstrating patterns of behavior and the results it has, supported of course by linked evidence, is sufficient. How is that any different than anything we post about Alefantis' sick Instagram, or Tony Podesta's disgusting art collection? Rule 1 says:
Relevant submissions would be any content that can be linked (by the OP in a sourced explanation) to organized human trafficking of children...and/or the systematic cover up of these activities and/or the protection/assistance provided to the people who engage in said activities.
Disinfo pushing certainly assists the pedocrats and attempts to cover up or suppress research, discussion and exposure of their web of slime.
Were I to write such a post, it would focus on what disinfo is being pushed, how it is being pushed, and the larger patterns. Voat is about free speech. The shills have the same Constitutional rights to that as the rest of us. But speech has consequences, and exposing lies, manipulation, intimidation and fearmongering is our responsibility in response.
That said, if the community does not want research into the way we're being fucked with to be posted on the main board in order to avoid excessive drama that hurts morale, I can understand that and will accept what the folks desire.
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ThePuppetShow ago
Just so nobody else has to do it.. @think- @ben_matlock @Srayzie @kevdude What do we do with this?
ben_matlock ago
@vindicator and I have a slight difference of opinion on this. he originally asked to flair the first thread for Rule 2 violation. personally, I fail to see how this satisfies rule 1. even if ES is DK, do we have evidence that he is actively working for shareblue to throw 'shade' on our investigation? because if not, I don't think these kinds of submissions belong here at all.
It would be my preference for you to remove it and repost to v/pizzagatewhatever. so until we hear from @Vindicator or @kevdude, I'm going to give this a 24hr flair and see if you can show how ES (or DK) is involved providing assistance or protection to the cover-up of child abuse by the global elite.
Vindicator ago
Sorry I did not see this until just now, Ben. Had real life responsibilities that kept me away. As written, this didn't really fulfill Rule 1. I agree with your assessment.
ben_matlock ago
No worries, glad you agree.
If I may ask, hypothetically speaking, how could this have this fulfilled Rule 1? Perhaps by showing that ES is indeed DK and having evidence of being on the payroll of shareblue or their ilk?
Vindicator ago
Here's my perspective: Up until just very recently, our policy was to remove any and all disinfo posts immediately. That is what the rules were created to do. Disinfo just doesn't hold up when subjected to them. The problem with that was that MF did that daily, and people couldn't see the disinfo narratives being pushed and who was doing it. All they concluded was that he was a terrible censor and morale went to shit. I have always felt it was a better approach to scrutinize disinfo -- put it to the test and expose it's lack of foundation. Only then does it lose it's power. Moving discussion of it off the board where no one will see it prevents that.
I don't think you need a screenshot of a paycheck to discuss whether someone is likely an enemy of Pizzagate. We can judge them by their fruits. I think making a case demonstrating patterns of behavior and the results it has, supported of course by linked evidence, is sufficient. How is that any different than anything we post about Alefantis' sick Instagram, or Tony Podesta's disgusting art collection? Rule 1 says:
Disinfo pushing certainly assists the pedocrats and attempts to cover up or suppress research, discussion and exposure of their web of slime.
Were I to write such a post, it would focus on what disinfo is being pushed, how it is being pushed, and the larger patterns. Voat is about free speech. The shills have the same Constitutional rights to that as the rest of us. But speech has consequences, and exposing lies, manipulation, intimidation and fearmongering is our responsibility in response.
That said, if the community does not want research into the way we're being fucked with to be posted on the main board in order to avoid excessive drama that hurts morale, I can understand that and will accept what the folks desire.