The community discussed this change several times over the past six months; now we are finally implementing it.
In the 10 days that the Ban Links proposition was stickied, it gathered 57 comments with 81% upvotes on 441 views. There wasn't a single comment against the proposal, just one person saying he won't post as much because he posts from his phone and it's too complicated. I would say we have overwhelming support. Effective immediately, you will now find a new rule in the sidebar:
Rule 6: No Link Posts -- Only editable submissions made with the "Discuss" button are allowed. "Link" submissions have been banned by the community for the reasons described here. Link posts will be immediately removed.
We are a research subverse, seeking rigorous, well-thought out, sourced submissions that advance the pizzagate investigation. While they are handy for sharing news, most Link post titles don't meet our submission requirements. The vast majority of posts we have to remove are Links.
Six Reasons "Link" submissions suck for v/Pizzagate research
- They can't be edited to meet our submission rules, and frequently have to be removed because of this
- They can be used by trolls to direct-link to dangerous sites (examples in Removed Submissions)
- They make it easy for trolls to spam "PGisStupid" style memes and shitty YouTube videos
- They make it impossible for authors to edit posts to incorporate the often stellar crowdsourced research contributed by other users in the Comments.
- When shared off-platform such as by retweet, especially by phone where only headlines show depending on screen settings, they inadvertantly bury the crowdsourced analysis and discoveries that shed light on events mentioned in MSM articles, destroying the redpill value. Non-Voat users clicking a Voat submission shared in a tweet, will probably click the headline, taking them directly to the MSM article (for example) and never see the crowdsourced analysis in the Comments.
- It seems unfair and inconsistent to require Discuss posts to provide short descriptions of all linked content and their relevance under Rule 3, but allow Link posts that only have a headline from which such matters must often be inferred.
Hopefully, our developer @Heygeorge will also soon be able to tweak our CSS to remove the Link button. Until then, please resist the temptation to submit with it.
Soon, PuttItOut is supposed to institute a referendum system that will allow us to easily revisit the ruleset, so we can consider this an experiment we can change later, if the consensus after trying it is negative.
You are still welcome to share Links in v/pizzagatewhatever, v/pizzagatememes, v/news, and v/whatever.
Looking forward to many excellent Discuss posts!
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Blacksmith21 ago
It's about damn time. Glad I suggested it.
Vindicator ago
Sorry it took so long to implement...it's been crazy up in here!
Sonic_fan1 ago
I, for one, actually approve of this change. It's not so much lazy research, but poor sportsmanship sorta (can't think of the proper term right now) to just throw a link up without any details, and then someone clicks the post link from the Hot/New or whatever to get to the post and the comments as a page so they can read the article and the comments inline, and end up on some hack news posting place that just chops up and reposts other sites' articles to make something sound so much worse than it is or make someone much more of a criminal than they really are.
Even if you have to spend a whopping half-hour typing up a post, and paste the link at some point in the post, that's not a bad thing, people. You can expound your personal views on the content of the link, bad mouth people left and right, get into a week-long debate in the article, say that everyone is a Satanic child-molesting Jew who's sacrificing kids to feed Hillary, just put in some effort into the blasted post! People can spend days back-and-forthing over one little nitpicky point, but can't spend ten minutes to make a half-assed post? (raised eyebrow) Really? (/end raised eyebrow) (it's been too long since I tried to make comedy HTML tags)
(And, yes... my average post takes over an hour to type up... it's called Notepad... sometimes, MS Word is used to make sure the grammar makes sense if alcohol has been involved)