Okay, was all set to give glowing and enthusiastic response, but then I actually had to go and watch this damn thing.
Seriously, has Mr. Gunk gotten stepped on the head by a horse or something? He exonerates MJ because why? Because there can't be TWO alleged child molestors? Especially when he goes onto talk about DEN Entertainment and how producers would pay money to sit naked in hot tubs? Oh, no, Mr. Gunk! They couldn't be pedos because there's on ONE allowed per party!
Then he says something about Feldman going to the FBI? I thought he went LAPD? That's who quote FOUND unquote the tape where Feldman named names ... then Feldman did some cleaning and found his copy in the garage! But he never named big pedo elites! He named a couple of nothing burgers, and Mr. Gunk doesn't call him out for that discrepancy? For stringing Haim along all those years by giving him the excuse that he'd already spoken to the police and they didn't do anything. Well, why the fuck would they? They were after MJ and Feldman gives them nothing burgers?
And the third strike is Mr. Gunk STILL NOT SAYING THE NAME OF THE STAND IN?!!!! WHAT?!!!! WTF IS THIS ANOTHER TEASE?!!! So it's okay that others quote guessed unquote the name, but he's not going to say it?
Yes, he showed the Twitter account, but that isn't the same thing, is it? If you've already threatened to release the name, then do another video, you'd fucking better say the name of you lose credibility.
And then to sort of call out Feldman and exonerate MJ?!!!! Yeah, no.
IIRC, Enty revealed the name of Heather O'Rourke in this blind item, so he must have some evidence of foul play or he's opening himself up to a charge of libel.
Heather entered American cinematic pop-culture before first grade. She was sitting alone in the MGM Commissary waiting for her mother when a stranger approached her asking her name. "My name is Heather O'Rourke," she said. "But you're a stranger, and I can't talk to you". When her mother returned, the stranger introduced himself as Steven Spielberg. She failed her first audition when she laughed at a stuffed animal Spielberg presented her with. He thought she was just too young (she had just turned five), and he was actually looking for a girl at least 6 years old, but he saw something in her and asked her to come in a second time with a scary story book. He asked her to scream a lot. She screamed until she broke down in tears. The next day at the commissary, Spielberg told her and her family, "I don't know what it is about her, but she's got the job."
Yup, something about her ...
And she was on three TV shows:
In the years that followed, Heather was a familiar face on TV in Happy Days (1974) (1982-1983), Webster (1983) (1983-1984), and The New Leave It to Beaver (1983) (1986-1987), three shows in which she had recurring roles.
Happy Days? Bingo! We know from Erin Moran there was alleged abuse going on.
That poor kid ... and her mother was just clueless, huh?
Yeah, and evidently Mom was actually giving her medication for Crohn's disease because of all that pesky inflammation. IF Enty is right, and IF this irritation were being caused by abuse, then giving a child the wrong medication could have contributed to killing her. It says in the imdb how her cheeks were puffed out from the medication. Could have been a reaction by her system to being dosed with something she didn't need.
And I guess mom was pushing both daughters. Here they are in the beauty pageant system, being groomed:
If he was defending Jackson, however, he's dead wrong!
To me he was. He was also defending that scumsucking loser Geffen. What he said was that Geffen was throwing out accusations, but he was very unclear that he was doing it to protect the Pedo Elite that the whore Feldman claims exists until it's time to name them! Basically, it sounds very much like he was implying that MJ was one of these INNOCENTS, and that MJ was just so upset. Did you happen to read my post on MJ? There was just this damning article about how he persecuted the father of one of the accuser's. It wasn't DG accusing, it was the kid and his father! The father ended up suicided, but then why wouldn't he? His business was gone because that other scumsucker Pellicano used intimidation tactics on the father's patients. WTH wants to go to a dentist with that kind of harassment going on? It also pointed out that the father had to have reverse cosmetic. He started out a very handsome man and had work done to make himself unattractive and untraceable to get MJ and his hired goons off his damn back! AND, as far as I know ... which isn't that far, that kid is grown up and has completely disappeared off the map! Yup! He was wanted for a deposition and nobody ... NOBODY ... can find him.
Don't know if he's turned up, but, man, someone took their pound of flesh out on that victim and his father. And his dad was only trying to protect him. It's what all of us members question at times. We say, "WTH was the father?" Well, this dad was RIGHT THERE EVERY STEP OF THE WAY and he got CRUSHED!
Amen. I remember reading the article you must have read too. It was sickening. MJ was a pedophile and whoever doesn't believe that has not done their research. His father Joe was a good teacher. But a lousy father.
I have read horrible things he did, don't know if they are all true, but some of them must be. I am not giving MJ any breaks but his father made him what he turned into. And the rest of the kids too. His mother is as much to blame.
I know plenty of people that were abused, and they didn't turn out to be monsters.
Because of what they went through, they do everything they can to protect children. Even some of these SRA victims speaking out, they've been through unimaginable horrors and refused to join in on harming others.
It's always a personal responsibility. So if MJ were just screwed up and drinking/on drugs to deal with the abuse, yes, I would give him a pass. But doing what he did? No way. The father was a monster and so was MJ.
I think that if they are horribly abused during a certain age frame that it affects them more so. I think it is about 6 or 7 or thereabouts. But it has to be at a large number of rapes and done a certain way in order to get to the point of MJ. Yes, they suffer horribly the Survivors. My heart goes out to them, as it does to my friend St.charles.
It can mess you up ... I've met people with multiple personalities, etc., but they're not like MJ.
MJ was a predator. I think what you're leaving out is if you do that to a predator you end up with an MJ ... or Feldman. But Feldman was a low-level predator. He's like the jackal that hangs around for part of the kill.
I do recall reading from one of the Jacksons (Jermain I think it was) that Joe would take Michael to see "important men" and when he returned, he would be sick for several days. And as we know, roughly a third of child abuse victims will themselves go on to become abusers.
In order to be turned into something so putrid and horrid, a child would have to be raped over and over and over and...................even animals don't rape. Most have a courting period etc. All so very sad. It never ends unless until they die.
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migratorypatterns ago
Okay, was all set to give glowing and enthusiastic response, but then I actually had to go and watch this damn thing.
Seriously, has Mr. Gunk gotten stepped on the head by a horse or something? He exonerates MJ because why? Because there can't be TWO alleged child molestors? Especially when he goes onto talk about DEN Entertainment and how producers would pay money to sit naked in hot tubs? Oh, no, Mr. Gunk! They couldn't be pedos because there's on ONE allowed per party!
Then he says something about Feldman going to the FBI? I thought he went LAPD? That's who quote FOUND unquote the tape where Feldman named names ... then Feldman did some cleaning and found his copy in the garage! But he never named big pedo elites! He named a couple of nothing burgers, and Mr. Gunk doesn't call him out for that discrepancy? For stringing Haim along all those years by giving him the excuse that he'd already spoken to the police and they didn't do anything. Well, why the fuck would they? They were after MJ and Feldman gives them nothing burgers?
And the third strike is Mr. Gunk STILL NOT SAYING THE NAME OF THE STAND IN?!!!! WHAT?!!!! WTF IS THIS ANOTHER TEASE?!!! So it's okay that others quote guessed unquote the name, but he's not going to say it?
Yes, he showed the Twitter account, but that isn't the same thing, is it? If you've already threatened to release the name, then do another video, you'd fucking better say the name of you lose credibility.
And then to sort of call out Feldman and exonerate MJ?!!!! Yeah, no.
SebuttYopick ago
there was another conspiracy http://www.crazydaysandnights.net/2017/11/todays-blind-items-molesters-killed-her.html ? http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3091609/We-like-real-brother-sister-Poltergeist-star-speaks-CURSED-movie-time-saw-one-child-actress-dead-cardiac-arrest-age-12-strangled-film-reboot-set-open.html ? https://fellowshipoftheminds.com/2018/02/04/how-poltergeist-child-actress-heather-orourke-died/ ... if I remember this was debunked as just conspiracy...but after Kevin Spacey and Weinstein a lot of old 'conspiracy' were revisted about Hollywood and a network of abuse around parts of the world
migratorypatterns ago
Debunked how? It was never even investigated.
Podge512 ago
IIRC, Enty revealed the name of Heather O'Rourke in this blind item, so he must have some evidence of foul play or he's opening himself up to a charge of libel.
migratorypatterns ago
I don't remember ENTY saying that name. S/he told the story, but I must have missed him naming her.
I do remember people picking up on it in the comment section.
Oh, shit! Do you know how Heather and SS met? On imdb:
Yup, something about her ...
And she was on three TV shows:
Happy Days? Bingo! We know from Erin Moran there was alleged abuse going on.
That poor kid ... and her mother was just clueless, huh?
Podge512 ago
You're right; initially he didn't, but he did a BI Revealed later:
http://www.crazydaysandnights.net/2018/01/blind-items-revealed-40.html
And I'm sure her poor mother was completely clueless about what was happening to her cashco - er, daughter!
migratorypatterns ago
Yeah, and evidently Mom was actually giving her medication for Crohn's disease because of all that pesky inflammation. IF Enty is right, and IF this irritation were being caused by abuse, then giving a child the wrong medication could have contributed to killing her. It says in the imdb how her cheeks were puffed out from the medication. Could have been a reaction by her system to being dosed with something she didn't need.
And I guess mom was pushing both daughters. Here they are in the beauty pageant system, being groomed:
Podge512 ago
It was at the tail end of the video, but he did name the stand in as Shane Fry.
migratorypatterns ago
To me he was. He was also defending that scumsucking loser Geffen. What he said was that Geffen was throwing out accusations, but he was very unclear that he was doing it to protect the Pedo Elite that the whore Feldman claims exists until it's time to name them! Basically, it sounds very much like he was implying that MJ was one of these INNOCENTS, and that MJ was just so upset. Did you happen to read my post on MJ? There was just this damning article about how he persecuted the father of one of the accuser's. It wasn't DG accusing, it was the kid and his father! The father ended up suicided, but then why wouldn't he? His business was gone because that other scumsucker Pellicano used intimidation tactics on the father's patients. WTH wants to go to a dentist with that kind of harassment going on? It also pointed out that the father had to have reverse cosmetic. He started out a very handsome man and had work done to make himself unattractive and untraceable to get MJ and his hired goons off his damn back! AND, as far as I know ... which isn't that far, that kid is grown up and has completely disappeared off the map! Yup! He was wanted for a deposition and nobody ... NOBODY ... can find him.
Don't know if he's turned up, but, man, someone took their pound of flesh out on that victim and his father. And his dad was only trying to protect him. It's what all of us members question at times. We say, "WTH was the father?" Well, this dad was RIGHT THERE EVERY STEP OF THE WAY and he got CRUSHED!
And this guy's defending him?
carmencita ago
Amen. I remember reading the article you must have read too. It was sickening. MJ was a pedophile and whoever doesn't believe that has not done their research. His father Joe was a good teacher. But a lousy father.
migratorypatterns ago
Absolutely. Totally agree.
Joe was a horrible father ... and husband.
carmencita ago
I have read horrible things he did, don't know if they are all true, but some of them must be. I am not giving MJ any breaks but his father made him what he turned into. And the rest of the kids too. His mother is as much to blame.
migratorypatterns ago
I know plenty of people that were abused, and they didn't turn out to be monsters.
Because of what they went through, they do everything they can to protect children. Even some of these SRA victims speaking out, they've been through unimaginable horrors and refused to join in on harming others.
It's always a personal responsibility. So if MJ were just screwed up and drinking/on drugs to deal with the abuse, yes, I would give him a pass. But doing what he did? No way. The father was a monster and so was MJ.
carmencita ago
I think that if they are horribly abused during a certain age frame that it affects them more so. I think it is about 6 or 7 or thereabouts. But it has to be at a large number of rapes and done a certain way in order to get to the point of MJ. Yes, they suffer horribly the Survivors. My heart goes out to them, as it does to my friend St.charles.
migratorypatterns ago
It can mess you up ... I've met people with multiple personalities, etc., but they're not like MJ.
MJ was a predator. I think what you're leaving out is if you do that to a predator you end up with an MJ ... or Feldman. But Feldman was a low-level predator. He's like the jackal that hangs around for part of the kill.
Podge512 ago
I do recall reading from one of the Jacksons (Jermain I think it was) that Joe would take Michael to see "important men" and when he returned, he would be sick for several days. And as we know, roughly a third of child abuse victims will themselves go on to become abusers.
carmencita ago
In order to be turned into something so putrid and horrid, a child would have to be raped over and over and over and...................even animals don't rape. Most have a courting period etc. All so very sad. It never ends unless until they die.