IMO , if I heard a valid explanation for why the year 1914 is so important to the elite , I would be researching the year 1914! I can give you troves of evidence pointing to that year , of being the time when Satan was cast out of heaven . You wanna know what happened to the earth at that time ? Revelation 12:12
On this account be glad, you heavens and you who reside in them! Woe for the earth and for the sea, because the Devil has come down to you, having great anger, knowing that he has a short period of time.” ... Do any of you not agree that this year was the starting point of major changes on this earth ? Before that year people had a sense of peace . Now people are screaming for it louder that ever ! Believe me I could go on and on for days about this year! I've studied about it for since 2001 . It's why I chose this username .
I think you are right about something about 1914 setting off a chain of events that causes problems on the earth, but you are misinterpreting the Bible.
Satan (Lucifer) was cast out of heaven a long time ago and sent to roam the earth. He was, however able to return at times to speak to God in heaven. He will be cast out again and not allowed to return to see God before the great tribulation starts and that is what revelations is referencing. And the "woe to you (earth)" is because the devil will be angrier now since he knows his time is short.
Satan is often referred to as the god of this world (earth) because this is where he is. He's not the ruler of hell like people wrongly believe, he's actually here causing problems on earth.
Is this what your referring to?
Job 2:2
Then God said to Satan: “Where have you come from?” Satan answered God “From roving about on the earth and from walking about in it.”
Satan was never able to return to the heavens at all , that was before he was cast out permanently that he was able to travel from heavens to earth . I will find the scriptures your referring to .
Job 1:6-7 KJV
[6] Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord , and Satan came also among them. [7] And the Lord said unto Satan, Whence comest thou? Then Satan answered the Lord , and said, From going to and fro in the earth, and from walking up and down in it.
You western neo-protestant are realy not the brightest.
So you think in material things, wondering how an Eternal, Infinite, No Beginning and No End, All Knowing, All Powerful God, speaks with a limited, defined, created being???
Do you think it has to be like in this materialistic world? Do you think God, the Almighty needs to be in the same room with the evil angel??
You westerners, and your materialistic mindset. You are a shame to real Christianity.
It's ok if you think I'm wrong , but if you read my whole 3 part post ( sorry not sure if you did already) the math is irrefutable. If you can prove otherwise , I would be all ears .
I don't want to argue with you so I hope I didn't come off that way, I can see you have a passion for this as do I. I did read some of what you posted and was going to respond but I didn't want to come off as "arguie". Where I think you're getting hung up is not really a huge matter or importance, but from studying end times prophesy I think you may actually be right, but just have the timeline off.
Correct me if I'm wrong but what I got from what you have written is you think the end times events started with whatever was happening in 1914. I think you're right in that whatever began then was the start of putting the systems in place that would be/will be needed to help usher in the antichrist. The actual end times i.e. Daniels 70 weeks/ the great tribulation is only a 7 year period. That doesn't mean a lot of time and work isn't needed to prepare for those 7 years to start, it's just not the actual end times events described in the Bible. I don't believe we have entered the great tribulation, but like you point out with the events and problems we have been seeing for the past 100 years, we are getting closer and closer at auch faster pace. The tribulation doesn't actually start until the antichrist makes the covenant with many for one week ( we probably won't even know that happens), and then he goes forth to conquer, we will hear of great wars and rumors of wars, etc....
I hope that makes sense. I think I get what you are saying, I hope!
I totally agree with you on most everything your saying and I know your not being argumentative. I hope I don't sound that way . I just like you say " have a passion " for my beliefs . Thank you for seeing that. I have spent hours on this subject today and would love to continue this conversation when I can do more research.
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Cc1914 ago
How interesting that this was in the year 1914 ! This was a very important year in the heavens !
Cc1914 ago
IMO , if I heard a valid explanation for why the year 1914 is so important to the elite , I would be researching the year 1914! I can give you troves of evidence pointing to that year , of being the time when Satan was cast out of heaven . You wanna know what happened to the earth at that time ? Revelation 12:12 On this account be glad, you heavens and you who reside in them! Woe for the earth and for the sea, because the Devil has come down to you, having great anger, knowing that he has a short period of time.” ... Do any of you not agree that this year was the starting point of major changes on this earth ? Before that year people had a sense of peace . Now people are screaming for it louder that ever ! Believe me I could go on and on for days about this year! I've studied about it for since 2001 . It's why I chose this username .
70times7 ago
So it took God 1900 years to throw satan out of heaven after Christ was killed?
Really?
Get out of here with your demonic babble
Cc1914 ago
Do your research please .. this is the Bible saying this not me . So I don't take your insults personally.
Shizy ago
I think you are right about something about 1914 setting off a chain of events that causes problems on the earth, but you are misinterpreting the Bible.
Satan (Lucifer) was cast out of heaven a long time ago and sent to roam the earth. He was, however able to return at times to speak to God in heaven. He will be cast out again and not allowed to return to see God before the great tribulation starts and that is what revelations is referencing. And the "woe to you (earth)" is because the devil will be angrier now since he knows his time is short.
Satan is often referred to as the god of this world (earth) because this is where he is. He's not the ruler of hell like people wrongly believe, he's actually here causing problems on earth.
Cc1914 ago
Is this what your referring to? Job 2:2 Then God said to Satan: “Where have you come from?” Satan answered God “From roving about on the earth and from walking about in it.”
Shizy ago
I sent you a reply with Job 1:6-7 but they say essentially the same things.
So Satan presents himself to the lord with with angels, if that didn't happen in heaven where would it happen?
Cc1914 ago
That was before he was cast out of heaven for good in 1914 .
Shizy ago
How do you know since the Bible doesn't cover the year 1914?
Cc1914 ago
Satan was never able to return to the heavens at all , that was before he was cast out permanently that he was able to travel from heavens to earth . I will find the scriptures your referring to .
Shizy ago
Job 1:6-7 KJV [6] Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord , and Satan came also among them. [7] And the Lord said unto Satan, Whence comest thou? Then Satan answered the Lord , and said, From going to and fro in the earth, and from walking up and down in it.
Shizy ago
God doesn't come to earth, and yet Satan is able to have conversations with God so they had to be somewhere together...
TaosDeiopW ago
You western neo-protestant are realy not the brightest.
So you think in material things, wondering how an Eternal, Infinite, No Beginning and No End, All Knowing, All Powerful God, speaks with a limited, defined, created being???
Do you think it has to be like in this materialistic world? Do you think God, the Almighty needs to be in the same room with the evil angel??
You westerners, and your materialistic mindset. You are a shame to real Christianity.
Cc1914 ago
It's ok if you think I'm wrong , but if you read my whole 3 part post ( sorry not sure if you did already) the math is irrefutable. If you can prove otherwise , I would be all ears .
Shizy ago
I don't want to argue with you so I hope I didn't come off that way, I can see you have a passion for this as do I. I did read some of what you posted and was going to respond but I didn't want to come off as "arguie". Where I think you're getting hung up is not really a huge matter or importance, but from studying end times prophesy I think you may actually be right, but just have the timeline off.
Correct me if I'm wrong but what I got from what you have written is you think the end times events started with whatever was happening in 1914. I think you're right in that whatever began then was the start of putting the systems in place that would be/will be needed to help usher in the antichrist. The actual end times i.e. Daniels 70 weeks/ the great tribulation is only a 7 year period. That doesn't mean a lot of time and work isn't needed to prepare for those 7 years to start, it's just not the actual end times events described in the Bible. I don't believe we have entered the great tribulation, but like you point out with the events and problems we have been seeing for the past 100 years, we are getting closer and closer at auch faster pace. The tribulation doesn't actually start until the antichrist makes the covenant with many for one week ( we probably won't even know that happens), and then he goes forth to conquer, we will hear of great wars and rumors of wars, etc....
I hope that makes sense. I think I get what you are saying, I hope!
Cc1914 ago
I totally agree with you on most everything your saying and I know your not being argumentative. I hope I don't sound that way . I just like you say " have a passion " for my beliefs . Thank you for seeing that. I have spent hours on this subject today and would love to continue this conversation when I can do more research.
Shizy ago
Sounds good!