IMO , if I heard a valid explanation for why the year 1914 is so important to the elite , I would be researching the year 1914! I can give you troves of evidence pointing to that year , of being the time when Satan was cast out of heaven . You wanna know what happened to the earth at that time ? Revelation 12:12
On this account be glad, you heavens and you who reside in them! Woe for the earth and for the sea, because the Devil has come down to you, having great anger, knowing that he has a short period of time.” ... Do any of you not agree that this year was the starting point of major changes on this earth ? Before that year people had a sense of peace . Now people are screaming for it louder that ever ! Believe me I could go on and on for days about this year! I've studied about it for since 2001 . It's why I chose this username .
I think you are right about something about 1914 setting off a chain of events that causes problems on the earth, but you are misinterpreting the Bible.
Satan (Lucifer) was cast out of heaven a long time ago and sent to roam the earth. He was, however able to return at times to speak to God in heaven. He will be cast out again and not allowed to return to see God before the great tribulation starts and that is what revelations is referencing. And the "woe to you (earth)" is because the devil will be angrier now since he knows his time is short.
Satan is often referred to as the god of this world (earth) because this is where he is. He's not the ruler of hell like people wrongly believe, he's actually here causing problems on earth.
Is this what your referring to?
Job 2:2
Then God said to Satan: “Where have you come from?” Satan answered God “From roving about on the earth and from walking about in it.”
Satan was never able to return to the heavens at all , that was before he was cast out permanently that he was able to travel from heavens to earth . I will find the scriptures your referring to .
Job 1:6-7 KJV
[6] Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord , and Satan came also among them. [7] And the Lord said unto Satan, Whence comest thou? Then Satan answered the Lord , and said, From going to and fro in the earth, and from walking up and down in it.
You western neo-protestant are realy not the brightest.
So you think in material things, wondering how an Eternal, Infinite, No Beginning and No End, All Knowing, All Powerful God, speaks with a limited, defined, created being???
Do you think it has to be like in this materialistic world? Do you think God, the Almighty needs to be in the same room with the evil angel??
You westerners, and your materialistic mindset. You are a shame to real Christianity.
It's ok if you think I'm wrong , but if you read my whole 3 part post ( sorry not sure if you did already) the math is irrefutable. If you can prove otherwise , I would be all ears .
I don't want to argue with you so I hope I didn't come off that way, I can see you have a passion for this as do I. I did read some of what you posted and was going to respond but I didn't want to come off as "arguie". Where I think you're getting hung up is not really a huge matter or importance, but from studying end times prophesy I think you may actually be right, but just have the timeline off.
Correct me if I'm wrong but what I got from what you have written is you think the end times events started with whatever was happening in 1914. I think you're right in that whatever began then was the start of putting the systems in place that would be/will be needed to help usher in the antichrist. The actual end times i.e. Daniels 70 weeks/ the great tribulation is only a 7 year period. That doesn't mean a lot of time and work isn't needed to prepare for those 7 years to start, it's just not the actual end times events described in the Bible. I don't believe we have entered the great tribulation, but like you point out with the events and problems we have been seeing for the past 100 years, we are getting closer and closer at auch faster pace. The tribulation doesn't actually start until the antichrist makes the covenant with many for one week ( we probably won't even know that happens), and then he goes forth to conquer, we will hear of great wars and rumors of wars, etc....
I hope that makes sense. I think I get what you are saying, I hope!
I totally agree with you on most everything your saying and I know your not being argumentative. I hope I don't sound that way . I just like you say " have a passion " for my beliefs . Thank you for seeing that. I have spent hours on this subject today and would love to continue this conversation when I can do more research.
This is a reference to a prophecy in the book of Daniel, about how much time will be given to the nations before the messiah takes the heavenly throne. It’s actually quite clear. The Catholics mentioned it in older encyclopedias, but most religions ignore it.
It’s somewhat esoteric, from Daniel 9:25-26. What is compelling is the historical references that contrast 1913 and 1914. It’s worth looking into.
Hey, I’m not attacking you. I’m just reasoning for myself based on what the Bible says. If I consider the weeks years, because the Bible gives that rubric in a few places, And I add that to the time that the order to rebuild the temple was given by Darius (more or less 607 B.CE.) I get to the year Jesus was executed...
Add the second part 1914. It’s remarkably simple and clear. History also jibes. WWI, with exponential increases in deaths, Spanish flu, League of Nations, all that stuff, and apparently the resurgence of the ancient religion of Moloch the baby eater as a movie figure...
I find it very interesting, even if you don’t.
No need to get mad about it... jeez.
Are you trying to shame me because I read the Bible. You are free to make your own interpretation, don’t blame me or c1914 if we found something interesting and took our own time and effort to try and share it with you. Nobody is twisting your arm at gunpoint telling you to believe it. Make your own decisions and stop browbeating with your virtue signaling.
Sorry mate. Your elders have been deceived by their elders. And in turn they deceive you. And sadly, now you deceive others.
If you claim, satan stayed in heaven for 5000 years after wishing to exhaust himself above the thrown of God, you know nothing of the character of God.
God is a consuming fire. He consumes sin. It is literally impossible for sin (and whatever is attached to it) to be in the presence of God.
I’m not sure what you mean exactly... It sounds interesting. If you are familiar with Job, you will remember that Satan was often absent from heaven, but God would ask him where he was and he would reply “roaming about on the earth”. I would venture the notion that God is the epitome of perfect patience, allowing Satan’s challenge to be complete, before ending him forever... thus such a claim need never be repeated or accepted again. Thank you for being civil.
No one should ever tell anyone what to think. I strive to think for myself, as should everyone else. That’s why God gave us brains, right? I invite you to pm me if you want to share a scripture or two that supports your reasoning...
Satan was allowed to "represent" men as Adam had transferred his birthright/dominion to him. Christ won it back at the cross.
Hence satan did not challenge Him again when He raised people after the cross as he did when He raised Moses.
His claim was invalidated.
Seeing as God is an all consuming fire, it is no stretch to imagine satan and the representatives of other worlds, were actually meeting with Michael/Jesus, and not the Father.
The Father put all things for now into the Sons hands. That would include councils and meetings.
The ONE and ONLY GOD is not a consuming a fire but source of LIGHT and REVELATION.
You speak of a serpent that crawls and dwells under stones and disguises, called baal and moloch, now run back to your hole from lest a great foot smites you like the roach you are.
Yes it does and I posted the scriptures. Where did you come from ? This year must buy you just like it does Satan . If you have proof that it's not true then show PROOF ! Thanks
LOL... I conflated Daniel 9 and Daniel 4. Oops. You did a much better job of covering all of the bases in your comments below! I really take comfort from seeing the wisdom of this expressed in history. Especially in terms of before and after 1914. I’m gonna go over all of this again, so I don’t lose sight of what I’m talking about. Lol.
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Cc1914 ago
How interesting that this was in the year 1914 ! This was a very important year in the heavens !
Cc1914 ago
IMO , if I heard a valid explanation for why the year 1914 is so important to the elite , I would be researching the year 1914! I can give you troves of evidence pointing to that year , of being the time when Satan was cast out of heaven . You wanna know what happened to the earth at that time ? Revelation 12:12 On this account be glad, you heavens and you who reside in them! Woe for the earth and for the sea, because the Devil has come down to you, having great anger, knowing that he has a short period of time.” ... Do any of you not agree that this year was the starting point of major changes on this earth ? Before that year people had a sense of peace . Now people are screaming for it louder that ever ! Believe me I could go on and on for days about this year! I've studied about it for since 2001 . It's why I chose this username .
70times7 ago
So it took God 1900 years to throw satan out of heaven after Christ was killed?
Really?
Get out of here with your demonic babble
Cc1914 ago
Do your research please .. this is the Bible saying this not me . So I don't take your insults personally.
Shizy ago
I think you are right about something about 1914 setting off a chain of events that causes problems on the earth, but you are misinterpreting the Bible.
Satan (Lucifer) was cast out of heaven a long time ago and sent to roam the earth. He was, however able to return at times to speak to God in heaven. He will be cast out again and not allowed to return to see God before the great tribulation starts and that is what revelations is referencing. And the "woe to you (earth)" is because the devil will be angrier now since he knows his time is short.
Satan is often referred to as the god of this world (earth) because this is where he is. He's not the ruler of hell like people wrongly believe, he's actually here causing problems on earth.
Cc1914 ago
Is this what your referring to? Job 2:2 Then God said to Satan: “Where have you come from?” Satan answered God “From roving about on the earth and from walking about in it.”
Shizy ago
I sent you a reply with Job 1:6-7 but they say essentially the same things.
So Satan presents himself to the lord with with angels, if that didn't happen in heaven where would it happen?
Cc1914 ago
That was before he was cast out of heaven for good in 1914 .
Shizy ago
How do you know since the Bible doesn't cover the year 1914?
Cc1914 ago
Satan was never able to return to the heavens at all , that was before he was cast out permanently that he was able to travel from heavens to earth . I will find the scriptures your referring to .
Shizy ago
Job 1:6-7 KJV [6] Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord , and Satan came also among them. [7] And the Lord said unto Satan, Whence comest thou? Then Satan answered the Lord , and said, From going to and fro in the earth, and from walking up and down in it.
Shizy ago
God doesn't come to earth, and yet Satan is able to have conversations with God so they had to be somewhere together...
TaosDeiopW ago
You western neo-protestant are realy not the brightest.
So you think in material things, wondering how an Eternal, Infinite, No Beginning and No End, All Knowing, All Powerful God, speaks with a limited, defined, created being???
Do you think it has to be like in this materialistic world? Do you think God, the Almighty needs to be in the same room with the evil angel??
You westerners, and your materialistic mindset. You are a shame to real Christianity.
Cc1914 ago
It's ok if you think I'm wrong , but if you read my whole 3 part post ( sorry not sure if you did already) the math is irrefutable. If you can prove otherwise , I would be all ears .
Shizy ago
I don't want to argue with you so I hope I didn't come off that way, I can see you have a passion for this as do I. I did read some of what you posted and was going to respond but I didn't want to come off as "arguie". Where I think you're getting hung up is not really a huge matter or importance, but from studying end times prophesy I think you may actually be right, but just have the timeline off.
Correct me if I'm wrong but what I got from what you have written is you think the end times events started with whatever was happening in 1914. I think you're right in that whatever began then was the start of putting the systems in place that would be/will be needed to help usher in the antichrist. The actual end times i.e. Daniels 70 weeks/ the great tribulation is only a 7 year period. That doesn't mean a lot of time and work isn't needed to prepare for those 7 years to start, it's just not the actual end times events described in the Bible. I don't believe we have entered the great tribulation, but like you point out with the events and problems we have been seeing for the past 100 years, we are getting closer and closer at auch faster pace. The tribulation doesn't actually start until the antichrist makes the covenant with many for one week ( we probably won't even know that happens), and then he goes forth to conquer, we will hear of great wars and rumors of wars, etc....
I hope that makes sense. I think I get what you are saying, I hope!
Cc1914 ago
I totally agree with you on most everything your saying and I know your not being argumentative. I hope I don't sound that way . I just like you say " have a passion " for my beliefs . Thank you for seeing that. I have spent hours on this subject today and would love to continue this conversation when I can do more research.
Shizy ago
Sounds good!
70times7 ago
The bible does not say that. Take your meds. Or better yet, put down the keyboard and actually open a bible.
GreenDell144 ago
This is a reference to a prophecy in the book of Daniel, about how much time will be given to the nations before the messiah takes the heavenly throne. It’s actually quite clear. The Catholics mentioned it in older encyclopedias, but most religions ignore it.
It’s somewhat esoteric, from Daniel 9:25-26. What is compelling is the historical references that contrast 1913 and 1914. It’s worth looking into.
70times7 ago
There is no such prophecy. You mean the 2300 year prophecy? Or the 490 year (70 weeks) ?
Neither of those have anything to do with what you and your alts are claiming.
GreenDell144 ago
Hey, I’m not attacking you. I’m just reasoning for myself based on what the Bible says. If I consider the weeks years, because the Bible gives that rubric in a few places, And I add that to the time that the order to rebuild the temple was given by Darius (more or less 607 B.CE.) I get to the year Jesus was executed... Add the second part 1914. It’s remarkably simple and clear. History also jibes. WWI, with exponential increases in deaths, Spanish flu, League of Nations, all that stuff, and apparently the resurgence of the ancient religion of Moloch the baby eater as a movie figure... I find it very interesting, even if you don’t. No need to get mad about it... jeez. Are you trying to shame me because I read the Bible. You are free to make your own interpretation, don’t blame me or c1914 if we found something interesting and took our own time and effort to try and share it with you. Nobody is twisting your arm at gunpoint telling you to believe it. Make your own decisions and stop browbeating with your virtue signaling.
70times7 ago
Sorry mate. Your elders have been deceived by their elders. And in turn they deceive you. And sadly, now you deceive others.
If you claim, satan stayed in heaven for 5000 years after wishing to exhaust himself above the thrown of God, you know nothing of the character of God.
God is a consuming fire. He consumes sin. It is literally impossible for sin (and whatever is attached to it) to be in the presence of God.
You have been lied to.
GreenDell144 ago
I’m not sure what you mean exactly... It sounds interesting. If you are familiar with Job, you will remember that Satan was often absent from heaven, but God would ask him where he was and he would reply “roaming about on the earth”. I would venture the notion that God is the epitome of perfect patience, allowing Satan’s challenge to be complete, before ending him forever... thus such a claim need never be repeated or accepted again. Thank you for being civil.
No one should ever tell anyone what to think. I strive to think for myself, as should everyone else. That’s why God gave us brains, right? I invite you to pm me if you want to share a scripture or two that supports your reasoning...
70times7 ago
Satan was allowed to "represent" men as Adam had transferred his birthright/dominion to him. Christ won it back at the cross.
Hence satan did not challenge Him again when He raised people after the cross as he did when He raised Moses.
His claim was invalidated.
Seeing as God is an all consuming fire, it is no stretch to imagine satan and the representatives of other worlds, were actually meeting with Michael/Jesus, and not the Father.
The Father put all things for now into the Sons hands. That would include councils and meetings.
angelafogo ago
The ONE and ONLY GOD is not a consuming a fire but source of LIGHT and REVELATION. You speak of a serpent that crawls and dwells under stones and disguises, called baal and moloch, now run back to your hole from lest a great foot smites you like the roach you are.
https://books.google.com.ar/books?id=DORMCgAAQBAJ&pg=PT45&lpg=PT45&dq=moloch+consuming+fire&source=bl&ots=N2to50r_j4&sig=rCz8EpE7qJHZz9-T5hkTkqaO-KQ&hl=es-419&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjw2veb6trZAhXMG5AKHb2lAGcQ6AEIQDAC#v=onepage&q=moloch%20consuming%20fire&f=false
THIS I TELL TO ALL OF YOU WHO ARE GOOD AND SEEK TRUTH DO NOT STRAY, DO NOT BE CONFOUNDED, LIGHT WILL PREVAIL
carmencita ago
It makes so much sense to me. Thank you.
70times7 ago
Deuteronomy 4:24 - For the LORD thy God is a consuming fire
Hebrews 12:29 - For our God is a consuming fire.
Cc1914 ago
Yes it does and I posted the scriptures. Where did you come from ? This year must buy you just like it does Satan . If you have proof that it's not true then show PROOF ! Thanks
GreenDell144 ago
LOL... I conflated Daniel 9 and Daniel 4. Oops. You did a much better job of covering all of the bases in your comments below! I really take comfort from seeing the wisdom of this expressed in history. Especially in terms of before and after 1914. I’m gonna go over all of this again, so I don’t lose sight of what I’m talking about. Lol.
Cc1914 ago
Haha your funny ! Thank you so much for your comments on this . It's quite a lot of math but well worth it I think 🙂