Found an extremely creepy interview with Jeff Kasky which is particularly illuminating in light of the information we just saw. Helps give us an idea of the liar we are dealing with.
Analysis of interview with Jeff Kasky - more to it than meets the eye:
The interview is an example of NLP/Success marketing. Those into that "market themselves" by writing books and appearing in "Summits". For someone unacquainted with those techniques, it sounds very impressive. However, in reality, its a mutual marketing scam utilizing techniques that in some ways relate to PizzaGate.
Dirty Tricks - He quotes Tony Robbins in the interview. "Self help" gurus like Tony Robbins used Neuro Linguistic Programming NLP to make millions in the 1980s. NLP is a collection of techniques commonly employed by stage hypnotists, cults, and... military intelligence agents. [significant for Pizzagate]
NLP - Best article I've seen about it, very insightful overview, and humorous. Particularly note the link about half way down - "Scamworld: Get rich quick schemes mutate into an online monster". It explains the purpose behind this bizarre interview
https://ultraculture.org/blog/2014/01/16/nlp-10-ways-protect-mind-control/
In my view, the very jarring and over the top intro from the interviewer made use of hypnotic techniques, typical of NLP.
Don't Judge - He is concerned about people "judging" him. Particular categories of people are famous for crying, "don't judge". [Sodom & Gomorah - the original PizzaGate]
Medical Malpractice - Kasky co hosted a show on Autism with medical malpractice lawyer Mark Rosen. A malpractice lawyer would be very valuable if caught "Programming to Kill" via hypnosis. (the interview is on Roku) Presumably this Mark L Rosen? http://lubellrosen.com/attorneys/mark-l-rosen-esq/
Programmed to Kill, by David McGowan - Superb book that explains how serial/spree killers are made. A difficult topic handled without gore, and with great black humour. There are two court cases I've seen crop up where CIA Psychiatrists have been sued (successfully) for programming patients to kill. Both in the USA. (follows on from Medical malpractice connection & NLP above)
Look up the book "Programmed to Kill" by Dave McGowan on Amazon, or the author's web site. [I don't think I'm allowed to post the link here]
The NLP movement thrives on people writing books (of any quality) to give themselves a profile in a field. A book makes someone an "expert", which is good for business, or at least appearing in interviews and "summits". Which again are good marketing for business. Kasky lists a number of books he has written on adoption.
Excessive, sickening mutual praise. A key part of NLP brainwashing. Katsky and his interviewer over do it. I nearly threw up. He closes with "... and I know that if we had communications with other planets [pause for effect], they would all know you... you're just a great person, and its an honour to know you".
He says he's all about charities, values and he's not in it for the money. What a guy. He's also following the pattern of the "NLP" crowd, where every charitable act, summit, book, and carefully chosen word and movement, is about deceptive marketing, and hypnotic techniques. Is this the sort of cover one would expect for PizzaGate operations? Well... yes. It fits the profile.
Very much appreciate your post and the resources you point out. I could not bear more than a couple of minutes of the video, they both seem like nutjobs, droning on about absolutely nothing. No credentials, no accomplishments, no educational c.v. references, and no helpful info, leaving me scratching my head and wondering who watches this empty drivel? Guess I need to learn more about NLP and sales strategies. Coincidentally I am realizing 2 aquaintances who claim to have consulting practices, who post similarly nothing-burger video crap on FB, must also be using the same huckster manual. I lost all respect when I viewed the video links these people I know sent me, thought both were just puffing themselves up trying to look successful, but your post causes me to think perhaps there are people who actually fall for these tactics and pay?
I know what you mean about not being able to bear to look at the video. I think the goal is to just turn out any content (in this case) and as long as each party is praising the other, its a reference, and they can tout having given "media interviews" with "well known industry figures". It's that hype of presenting at conferences, being interviewed or "going on tour", that can be used to impress at first glance. Tragically, enough people have believed this stuff, that NLP scams are an industry.
I know of two people who have lost a lot of money to a scam that uses NLP, and are still involved in it. In that case its a medical clinic offering expensive procedures that the governing body of that branch of medicine states on its web site to be useless. Although useless to "clients" (once called patients), the procedures are very expensive, and therefore useful to the clinic.
The clinic is very impressive at first, with a fawning, guru like atmosphere built around the clinic owner by staff. But as soon as a patient is signed up, the atmosphere becomes much more manipulative and controlling. The techniques to keep people coming back include not only NLP (basic stage hypnotist tricks, dramatization), but also interestingly hypnotic drugs. The clinic recommends patients have longer procedures done under a hypnotic drug that is best known to the public in news stories about "date rapes".
The procedures should not need anything more than local anaesthetic. Yet patients come in, have work done, and have absolutely no memory of anything that went on in their time at the clinic. A concern few would realize, is that someone under the influence of such a hypnotic drug will by definition be open to hypnotic suggestion. Given the environment, the background of those involved, and the opportunity to sell more "treatment", it does look like a situation ripe for abuse, both financial, and physical. It really is heartbreaking, but its all done "voluntarily".
As far as finding out more about NLP goes, I think it comes under the rubric of many horrible things that have been exposed by PizzaGate. For an investigation, some things have to be dealt with, but some things are not good for us to delve too deeply into either. That said, I think this stuff is growing, and on reflection, its only logical that people practicing this should appear in the context of PizzaGate.
Thanks for the book recommendation. I will look up McGowan's book and NLP.
I saw the interview. Interesting most of it is talking up about how he is such a saint. The part about "consuming kids" to me seemed like a hiding in plain sight as they are essentially just another commodity to him. I've been looking into JAFCO which he mentioned doing a lot of work for in my last submission. Found some sites that have a lot of allegations against it but I am having trouble finding anything truly concrete on them.
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Tanngrisnir ago
Found an extremely creepy interview with Jeff Kasky which is particularly illuminating in light of the information we just saw. Helps give us an idea of the liar we are dealing with.
http://www.lynettelouise.com/seeking-the-leadership-path-with-guest-jeff-kasky/
BeTidy ago
Analysis of interview with Jeff Kasky - more to it than meets the eye:
The interview is an example of NLP/Success marketing. Those into that "market themselves" by writing books and appearing in "Summits". For someone unacquainted with those techniques, it sounds very impressive. However, in reality, its a mutual marketing scam utilizing techniques that in some ways relate to PizzaGate.
Dirty Tricks - He quotes Tony Robbins in the interview. "Self help" gurus like Tony Robbins used Neuro Linguistic Programming NLP to make millions in the 1980s. NLP is a collection of techniques commonly employed by stage hypnotists, cults, and... military intelligence agents. [significant for Pizzagate]
NLP - Best article I've seen about it, very insightful overview, and humorous. Particularly note the link about half way down - "Scamworld: Get rich quick schemes mutate into an online monster". It explains the purpose behind this bizarre interview https://ultraculture.org/blog/2014/01/16/nlp-10-ways-protect-mind-control/
In my view, the very jarring and over the top intro from the interviewer made use of hypnotic techniques, typical of NLP.
Don't Judge - He is concerned about people "judging" him. Particular categories of people are famous for crying, "don't judge". [Sodom & Gomorah - the original PizzaGate]
Medical Malpractice - Kasky co hosted a show on Autism with medical malpractice lawyer Mark Rosen. A malpractice lawyer would be very valuable if caught "Programming to Kill" via hypnosis. (the interview is on Roku) Presumably this Mark L Rosen? http://lubellrosen.com/attorneys/mark-l-rosen-esq/
Programmed to Kill, by David McGowan - Superb book that explains how serial/spree killers are made. A difficult topic handled without gore, and with great black humour. There are two court cases I've seen crop up where CIA Psychiatrists have been sued (successfully) for programming patients to kill. Both in the USA. (follows on from Medical malpractice connection & NLP above) Look up the book "Programmed to Kill" by Dave McGowan on Amazon, or the author's web site. [I don't think I'm allowed to post the link here]
The NLP movement thrives on people writing books (of any quality) to give themselves a profile in a field. A book makes someone an "expert", which is good for business, or at least appearing in interviews and "summits". Which again are good marketing for business. Kasky lists a number of books he has written on adoption.
Excessive, sickening mutual praise. A key part of NLP brainwashing. Katsky and his interviewer over do it. I nearly threw up. He closes with "... and I know that if we had communications with other planets [pause for effect], they would all know you... you're just a great person, and its an honour to know you".
He says he's all about charities, values and he's not in it for the money. What a guy. He's also following the pattern of the "NLP" crowd, where every charitable act, summit, book, and carefully chosen word and movement, is about deceptive marketing, and hypnotic techniques. Is this the sort of cover one would expect for PizzaGate operations? Well... yes. It fits the profile.
Bizarre NLP / Marketing scam style interview here... http://www.lynettelouise.com/seeking-the-leadership-path-with-guest-jeff-kasky/
toutedesuite ago
Very much appreciate your post and the resources you point out. I could not bear more than a couple of minutes of the video, they both seem like nutjobs, droning on about absolutely nothing. No credentials, no accomplishments, no educational c.v. references, and no helpful info, leaving me scratching my head and wondering who watches this empty drivel? Guess I need to learn more about NLP and sales strategies. Coincidentally I am realizing 2 aquaintances who claim to have consulting practices, who post similarly nothing-burger video crap on FB, must also be using the same huckster manual. I lost all respect when I viewed the video links these people I know sent me, thought both were just puffing themselves up trying to look successful, but your post causes me to think perhaps there are people who actually fall for these tactics and pay?
BeTidy ago
I know what you mean about not being able to bear to look at the video. I think the goal is to just turn out any content (in this case) and as long as each party is praising the other, its a reference, and they can tout having given "media interviews" with "well known industry figures". It's that hype of presenting at conferences, being interviewed or "going on tour", that can be used to impress at first glance. Tragically, enough people have believed this stuff, that NLP scams are an industry.
I know of two people who have lost a lot of money to a scam that uses NLP, and are still involved in it. In that case its a medical clinic offering expensive procedures that the governing body of that branch of medicine states on its web site to be useless. Although useless to "clients" (once called patients), the procedures are very expensive, and therefore useful to the clinic.
The clinic is very impressive at first, with a fawning, guru like atmosphere built around the clinic owner by staff. But as soon as a patient is signed up, the atmosphere becomes much more manipulative and controlling. The techniques to keep people coming back include not only NLP (basic stage hypnotist tricks, dramatization), but also interestingly hypnotic drugs. The clinic recommends patients have longer procedures done under a hypnotic drug that is best known to the public in news stories about "date rapes".
The procedures should not need anything more than local anaesthetic. Yet patients come in, have work done, and have absolutely no memory of anything that went on in their time at the clinic. A concern few would realize, is that someone under the influence of such a hypnotic drug will by definition be open to hypnotic suggestion. Given the environment, the background of those involved, and the opportunity to sell more "treatment", it does look like a situation ripe for abuse, both financial, and physical. It really is heartbreaking, but its all done "voluntarily".
As far as finding out more about NLP goes, I think it comes under the rubric of many horrible things that have been exposed by PizzaGate. For an investigation, some things have to be dealt with, but some things are not good for us to delve too deeply into either. That said, I think this stuff is growing, and on reflection, its only logical that people practicing this should appear in the context of PizzaGate.
Tanngrisnir ago
Thanks for the book recommendation. I will look up McGowan's book and NLP.
I saw the interview. Interesting most of it is talking up about how he is such a saint. The part about "consuming kids" to me seemed like a hiding in plain sight as they are essentially just another commodity to him. I've been looking into JAFCO which he mentioned doing a lot of work for in my last submission. Found some sites that have a lot of allegations against it but I am having trouble finding anything truly concrete on them.