The McMartin case is disinfo, which is why it is pushed by disinfo agent Ted Gunderson, who was an associate of Temple of Set founder Michael Aquino. The McMartin case is a well-known case of false allegations. The mother who made the initial allegations was crazy. She based it all on her son having disrupted bowel movements. The jury exonerated the accused because video showed the interviewers basically coercing the toddlers into saying they were abused, using leading questions that violated California guidelines at the time. One of the kids sent an apology to the LA times as an adult. That case was the real case of "false memories" that spawned the whole concept.
it's been a long while since i was reading (a lot) about this case, but if your biggest piece of evidence for pushing the msm narrative that mcmartin was b.s. was that gunderson was involved, that's not very strong. I know there's a lot of info suggesting gunderson was (probably always) working for the wrong side and that he wormed his way into cases to help them fall apart (gaining people's trust and sucking them for information). So given that eventually the mcmartin "case" fell apart and the official (and yours apparently) narrative is that it was a hoax, the fact that Gunderson was promoting it can actually be viewed to suggest that it was a legit case and that he did his job (appearing to promote it for the victims but actually working behind the scenes to sabotage them).
and c'mon about the tunnells. since you haven't cited anything, i'll go from my memory also. you're suggesting that there were professional geological studies done (and that's basically what i recall but i don't remember the exact credentials of who did what studies). i'm sure any qualified geologist or building or other relevant expert would know the obvious point you make that any house has had some digging likely for, at minimum, a sewer or water line. so if they come out and say there was enough evidence to show tunnels and not merely these ordinary things, i'll go with their conclusions unless you have evidence that they were clearly corrupt or the most inept experts in history.
also, that the tunnels weren't "found" originally assumes that there was an honest investigation. based upon your statement you likely don't believe in PG either, since wouldn't an investigation have proved one way or the other that there was a basement at CPP, tunnels which appear to being dug at cpp in instagram photos, and child porn or info about the same on JA devices? This sub remains and questions remain because there was no honest investigation and this may have occurred in McMartin also
I think a) the tunnels were there, and the children were legit b) Ted Gunderson was a disinfo shill.
What I don't get is why he would support the archaelogical dig? Why not leave the scene at the end of the trial when the verdict was that perps were innocent = case closed?
I don't know whether Ted was involved in the trials before the 1990 dig, but one thought as to why he was helping investigate the tunnels and other stuff after the trials was because those parents weren't letting up. the powers that be needed to know what they were uncovering. ted was apparently good at gaining trust and at least appearing to he legit even over time
the powers that be needed to know what they were uncovering. ted was apparently good at gaining trust and at least appearing to he legit even over time
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Millennial_Falcon ago
The McMartin case is disinfo, which is why it is pushed by disinfo agent Ted Gunderson, who was an associate of Temple of Set founder Michael Aquino. The McMartin case is a well-known case of false allegations. The mother who made the initial allegations was crazy. She based it all on her son having disrupted bowel movements. The jury exonerated the accused because video showed the interviewers basically coercing the toddlers into saying they were abused, using leading questions that violated California guidelines at the time. One of the kids sent an apology to the LA times as an adult. That case was the real case of "false memories" that spawned the whole concept.
Jobew1 ago
it's been a long while since i was reading (a lot) about this case, but if your biggest piece of evidence for pushing the msm narrative that mcmartin was b.s. was that gunderson was involved, that's not very strong. I know there's a lot of info suggesting gunderson was (probably always) working for the wrong side and that he wormed his way into cases to help them fall apart (gaining people's trust and sucking them for information). So given that eventually the mcmartin "case" fell apart and the official (and yours apparently) narrative is that it was a hoax, the fact that Gunderson was promoting it can actually be viewed to suggest that it was a legit case and that he did his job (appearing to promote it for the victims but actually working behind the scenes to sabotage them).
and c'mon about the tunnells. since you haven't cited anything, i'll go from my memory also. you're suggesting that there were professional geological studies done (and that's basically what i recall but i don't remember the exact credentials of who did what studies). i'm sure any qualified geologist or building or other relevant expert would know the obvious point you make that any house has had some digging likely for, at minimum, a sewer or water line. so if they come out and say there was enough evidence to show tunnels and not merely these ordinary things, i'll go with their conclusions unless you have evidence that they were clearly corrupt or the most inept experts in history.
also, that the tunnels weren't "found" originally assumes that there was an honest investigation. based upon your statement you likely don't believe in PG either, since wouldn't an investigation have proved one way or the other that there was a basement at CPP, tunnels which appear to being dug at cpp in instagram photos, and child porn or info about the same on JA devices? This sub remains and questions remain because there was no honest investigation and this may have occurred in McMartin also
think- ago
I think a) the tunnels were there, and the children were legit b) Ted Gunderson was a disinfo shill.
What I don't get is why he would support the archaelogical dig? Why not leave the scene at the end of the trial when the verdict was that perps were innocent = case closed?
Jobew1 ago
I don't know whether Ted was involved in the trials before the 1990 dig, but one thought as to why he was helping investigate the tunnels and other stuff after the trials was because those parents weren't letting up. the powers that be needed to know what they were uncovering. ted was apparently good at gaining trust and at least appearing to he legit even over time
think- ago
Thank you. This would really explain it.
Jobew1 ago
no prob. just a theory