The McMartin case is disinfo, which is why it is pushed by disinfo agent Ted Gunderson, who was an associate of Temple of Set founder Michael Aquino. The McMartin case is a well-known case of false allegations. The mother who made the initial allegations was crazy. She based it all on her son having disrupted bowel movements. The jury exonerated the accused because video showed the interviewers basically coercing the toddlers into saying they were abused, using leading questions that violated California guidelines at the time. One of the kids sent an apology to the LA times as an adult. That case was the real case of "false memories" that spawned the whole concept.
The subversión of the victims through browbeating and the over publication of the “satanic panic” meme made this case a victory for satanists. It was literally a beacon call for pedo breeders to open day care centers. A day care center to normies became a potential porn production plant for the enemy.
This case as it stands now, is something we need to keep handy. We need to erase their old victory with truth. There are more reports, photos and event cages and torture stuff and ritual paraphernalia’s a, just as the kids said. This case is exactly the opposite of what you say here:
“..imagine the average normie seeing the McMartin case promoted here, going to look into it, and finding it’s total nonsense. Then they would assume pizzagate is nonsense...”
Exactly the opposite happened. People have seen that satanists successfully browbeaten witnesses, colluded with law enforcement, co-opted the media and erased an incredible crime, and continue to do so, despite these things:
Multiple confirmed diagnoses of severe abuse scars on several children confirmed by more than one outside expert
Victims who stuck to their story despite ridicule and abandonment from the other survivors.
Tunnels being found, confirmed as described complete with the items described...
Lastly, they will get an idea of the size and power of the opponents we face when they consider that people still foolishly accept that this is debunked, and that it continues to be pushed by people who SHOULD be in possession of the facts, and that the culprits escaped any justice due to all manner of corruption and interference from authorities.
Pizzagate is riddled with these types of power schemes and conspiracies. That is the first thing a normie needs to learn. So McMartins is basic trading, and if a newly recoiled can’t get their head around it, accept that they will have to wait for the inevitable critical mass of pizzagate awakening like so many others.
They successfully erased what happened and turned it into a black pill. To continue to label it as disinformation in the face of such a preponderance off worthy reports to the contrary, Is a foolish diservice to the victims, many of whom have stuck to their story, have they not?
it's been a long while since i was reading (a lot) about this case, but if your biggest piece of evidence for pushing the msm narrative that mcmartin was b.s. was that gunderson was involved, that's not very strong. I know there's a lot of info suggesting gunderson was (probably always) working for the wrong side and that he wormed his way into cases to help them fall apart (gaining people's trust and sucking them for information). So given that eventually the mcmartin "case" fell apart and the official (and yours apparently) narrative is that it was a hoax, the fact that Gunderson was promoting it can actually be viewed to suggest that it was a legit case and that he did his job (appearing to promote it for the victims but actually working behind the scenes to sabotage them).
and c'mon about the tunnells. since you haven't cited anything, i'll go from my memory also. you're suggesting that there were professional geological studies done (and that's basically what i recall but i don't remember the exact credentials of who did what studies). i'm sure any qualified geologist or building or other relevant expert would know the obvious point you make that any house has had some digging likely for, at minimum, a sewer or water line. so if they come out and say there was enough evidence to show tunnels and not merely these ordinary things, i'll go with their conclusions unless you have evidence that they were clearly corrupt or the most inept experts in history.
also, that the tunnels weren't "found" originally assumes that there was an honest investigation. based upon your statement you likely don't believe in PG either, since wouldn't an investigation have proved one way or the other that there was a basement at CPP, tunnels which appear to being dug at cpp in instagram photos, and child porn or info about the same on JA devices? This sub remains and questions remain because there was no honest investigation and this may have occurred in McMartin also
I think a) the tunnels were there, and the children were legit b) Ted Gunderson was a disinfo shill.
What I don't get is why he would support the archaelogical dig? Why not leave the scene at the end of the trial when the verdict was that perps were innocent = case closed?
I don't know whether Ted was involved in the trials before the 1990 dig, but one thought as to why he was helping investigate the tunnels and other stuff after the trials was because those parents weren't letting up. the powers that be needed to know what they were uncovering. ted was apparently good at gaining trust and at least appearing to he legit even over time
the powers that be needed to know what they were uncovering. ted was apparently good at gaining trust and at least appearing to he legit even over time
Also, I have heard Ted Gunderson was very possibly a schill from other sources as well. But just because he says something about McMartin, does that in and of itself disprove the validity of the McMartin case??
No, Ted Gunderson promoting McMartin is further evidence he is a shill. It's primarily the facts of the McMartin case that show the whole thing was nonsense that put some innocent people through hell.
Millenial_Falcon, I have to respectfully disagree with your analysis. Dr. Summit is definitely a real Psychiatrist. The archeologist who did the archeological dig beneath the foundation of the school was Dr. E Gary Stickel, a UCLA archeologist. These are real professional people, you can look them up outside of this article. Before you can just dismiss all this, I think you should at least hear out what they have to say...
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Millennial_Falcon ago
The McMartin case is disinfo, which is why it is pushed by disinfo agent Ted Gunderson, who was an associate of Temple of Set founder Michael Aquino. The McMartin case is a well-known case of false allegations. The mother who made the initial allegations was crazy. She based it all on her son having disrupted bowel movements. The jury exonerated the accused because video showed the interviewers basically coercing the toddlers into saying they were abused, using leading questions that violated California guidelines at the time. One of the kids sent an apology to the LA times as an adult. That case was the real case of "false memories" that spawned the whole concept.
GreenDell144 ago
The subversión of the victims through browbeating and the over publication of the “satanic panic” meme made this case a victory for satanists. It was literally a beacon call for pedo breeders to open day care centers. A day care center to normies became a potential porn production plant for the enemy.
This case as it stands now, is something we need to keep handy. We need to erase their old victory with truth. There are more reports, photos and event cages and torture stuff and ritual paraphernalia’s a, just as the kids said. This case is exactly the opposite of what you say here:
“..imagine the average normie seeing the McMartin case promoted here, going to look into it, and finding it’s total nonsense. Then they would assume pizzagate is nonsense...”
Exactly the opposite happened. People have seen that satanists successfully browbeaten witnesses, colluded with law enforcement, co-opted the media and erased an incredible crime, and continue to do so, despite these things:
Multiple confirmed diagnoses of severe abuse scars on several children confirmed by more than one outside expert
Victims who stuck to their story despite ridicule and abandonment from the other survivors.
Tunnels being found, confirmed as described complete with the items described...
Lastly, they will get an idea of the size and power of the opponents we face when they consider that people still foolishly accept that this is debunked, and that it continues to be pushed by people who SHOULD be in possession of the facts, and that the culprits escaped any justice due to all manner of corruption and interference from authorities.
Pizzagate is riddled with these types of power schemes and conspiracies. That is the first thing a normie needs to learn. So McMartins is basic trading, and if a newly recoiled can’t get their head around it, accept that they will have to wait for the inevitable critical mass of pizzagate awakening like so many others.
They successfully erased what happened and turned it into a black pill. To continue to label it as disinformation in the face of such a preponderance off worthy reports to the contrary, Is a foolish diservice to the victims, many of whom have stuck to their story, have they not?
@Jobew1. @Surviveandheal15
Jobew1 ago
it's been a long while since i was reading (a lot) about this case, but if your biggest piece of evidence for pushing the msm narrative that mcmartin was b.s. was that gunderson was involved, that's not very strong. I know there's a lot of info suggesting gunderson was (probably always) working for the wrong side and that he wormed his way into cases to help them fall apart (gaining people's trust and sucking them for information). So given that eventually the mcmartin "case" fell apart and the official (and yours apparently) narrative is that it was a hoax, the fact that Gunderson was promoting it can actually be viewed to suggest that it was a legit case and that he did his job (appearing to promote it for the victims but actually working behind the scenes to sabotage them).
and c'mon about the tunnells. since you haven't cited anything, i'll go from my memory also. you're suggesting that there were professional geological studies done (and that's basically what i recall but i don't remember the exact credentials of who did what studies). i'm sure any qualified geologist or building or other relevant expert would know the obvious point you make that any house has had some digging likely for, at minimum, a sewer or water line. so if they come out and say there was enough evidence to show tunnels and not merely these ordinary things, i'll go with their conclusions unless you have evidence that they were clearly corrupt or the most inept experts in history.
also, that the tunnels weren't "found" originally assumes that there was an honest investigation. based upon your statement you likely don't believe in PG either, since wouldn't an investigation have proved one way or the other that there was a basement at CPP, tunnels which appear to being dug at cpp in instagram photos, and child porn or info about the same on JA devices? This sub remains and questions remain because there was no honest investigation and this may have occurred in McMartin also
think- ago
I think a) the tunnels were there, and the children were legit b) Ted Gunderson was a disinfo shill.
What I don't get is why he would support the archaelogical dig? Why not leave the scene at the end of the trial when the verdict was that perps were innocent = case closed?
Jobew1 ago
I don't know whether Ted was involved in the trials before the 1990 dig, but one thought as to why he was helping investigate the tunnels and other stuff after the trials was because those parents weren't letting up. the powers that be needed to know what they were uncovering. ted was apparently good at gaining trust and at least appearing to he legit even over time
think- ago
Thank you. This would really explain it.
Jobew1 ago
no prob. just a theory
Surviveandheal15 ago
Also, I have heard Ted Gunderson was very possibly a schill from other sources as well. But just because he says something about McMartin, does that in and of itself disprove the validity of the McMartin case??
Millennial_Falcon ago
No, Ted Gunderson promoting McMartin is further evidence he is a shill. It's primarily the facts of the McMartin case that show the whole thing was nonsense that put some innocent people through hell.
realityisinsanity ago
Anthony Falco, we know you're a shill with connections to James Alefantis. May God punish you. https://www.instagram.com/millennium_falco/?hl=en
Surviveandheal15 ago
Millenial_Falcon, I have to respectfully disagree with your analysis. Dr. Summit is definitely a real Psychiatrist. The archeologist who did the archeological dig beneath the foundation of the school was Dr. E Gary Stickel, a UCLA archeologist. These are real professional people, you can look them up outside of this article. Before you can just dismiss all this, I think you should at least hear out what they have to say...