FGM is utterly pointless other than to destroy the sexuality of a woman, but, you might wanna learn a bit about medicine/biology before having a whinge about circumcision, just because you want a reason to hate Jews.
Is circumcision something which should be mandated by religion? No
Are you ignorant to the medical condition(s) that sometimes warrant(s) male circumcision? Yes
WE circumcised one of our boys. It left a (tiny) scar. We got a little scared by accounts with more serious outcomes. For the second, we researched, got opinions from a few, and decided no circumsicion. The only consequence worth mentioning is daily maintenance. While he’s small we have to make some extra cleaning effort during diaper changes. One time we skipped a day or so, and he had some irritation. Regular attention while they’re small, that’s it.
As far as religion, the Bible makes it clear that a Christian’s heart is what is circumcised, no more ritual practices, but changes in the personality. IMO the Bible way works.
As far as religion, the Bible makes it clear that a Christian’s heart is what is circumcised, no more ritual practices, but changes in the personality. IMO the Bible way works.
This verse explains, from Romans 2:29 But he is a Jew who is one on the inside, and his circumcision is that of the heart by spirit and not by a written code. That person’s praise comes from God, not from people.
The context is that the physical nation of Israel had rejected the messiah, but the new “Jewish” people that God approves will be those that accept the Christ. Anyway, Peter developed a habit of ignoring the Christians that came from other nations (like Greeks, Romans, etc) and he started eating and hanging out with Christian that were only from the nation of Israel (circumcised folk). Paul called him out on this unChristian hipocracy and reminded him that after the messiah’s arrival, the law of ritual circumcision had been fulfilled and was no longer relevant to true spirituality (the quoted verse). Check out Romans. God’s word speaks for itself. Later, Peter adjusted himself, writing something similar in one of his letters, methinks.
I've put a fair bit of time into the Romans, must admit I never came across that bit, I'll definitely seek it out. Thanks! I really mean that by the way :)
I’M SO SORRY, friend. The actual account that I reference comes fro Galatians 2:11-14, where Paul resisted Cephas (Peter) face-to-face over the issue. The account of Cornelius is the first application, and of course, there are many reminders that the kingdom of God will include gentiles throughout the letters. I foolishly connected the Bible verse that
I remembered with this account from Galatians, but it seems that the bit from Romans is just an exhortation that has relevance to our topic here. The account found in
Galatians is just an illustrative application of the point. I hope that helps.
Don’t we all? Lol. Hey, it took me a minute to look that up on my iPad and I noticed that the older translations are SUPER murky there. King James is not understandable. If it helps, try a Byingtons Bible. That one is somewhat modernized, without clunky ancient euphemisms. I recommend it.
If it helps, try a Byingtons Bible. That one is somewhat modernized, without clunky ancient euphemisms. I recommend it.
I'll admit, I won't be going out to do that, modernized or otherwise lol. With respect, a bible won't teach me anything I don't already know or that I can't learn elsewhere in life, when the time comes ;)
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WhatevsFloatsYerGoat ago
Circumcision and Clitoridectomy are barbaric practices that have to be banned and hopefully will be banned as the global swamp drains.
But to see the old meme “you may keep the tips” come true is just beyond horrifying.
argosciv ago
FGM is utterly pointless other than to destroy the sexuality of a woman, but, you might wanna learn a bit about medicine/biology before having a whinge about circumcision, just because you want a reason to hate Jews.
Is circumcision something which should be mandated by religion? No
Are you ignorant to the medical condition(s) that sometimes warrant(s) male circumcision? Yes
GreenDell144 ago
WE circumcised one of our boys. It left a (tiny) scar. We got a little scared by accounts with more serious outcomes. For the second, we researched, got opinions from a few, and decided no circumsicion. The only consequence worth mentioning is daily maintenance. While he’s small we have to make some extra cleaning effort during diaper changes. One time we skipped a day or so, and he had some irritation. Regular attention while they’re small, that’s it.
As far as religion, the Bible makes it clear that a Christian’s heart is what is circumcised, no more ritual practices, but changes in the personality. IMO the Bible way works.
argosciv ago
Intriguing... would read more.
GreenDell144 ago
This verse explains, from Romans 2:29 But he is a Jew who is one on the inside, and his circumcision is that of the heart by spirit and not by a written code. That person’s praise comes from God, not from people.
The context is that the physical nation of Israel had rejected the messiah, but the new “Jewish” people that God approves will be those that accept the Christ. Anyway, Peter developed a habit of ignoring the Christians that came from other nations (like Greeks, Romans, etc) and he started eating and hanging out with Christian that were only from the nation of Israel (circumcised folk). Paul called him out on this unChristian hipocracy and reminded him that after the messiah’s arrival, the law of ritual circumcision had been fulfilled and was no longer relevant to true spirituality (the quoted verse). Check out Romans. God’s word speaks for itself. Later, Peter adjusted himself, writing something similar in one of his letters, methinks.
argosciv ago
I've put a fair bit of time into the Romans, must admit I never came across that bit, I'll definitely seek it out. Thanks! I really mean that by the way :)
GreenDell144 ago
I’M SO SORRY, friend. The actual account that I reference comes fro Galatians 2:11-14, where Paul resisted Cephas (Peter) face-to-face over the issue. The account of Cornelius is the first application, and of course, there are many reminders that the kingdom of God will include gentiles throughout the letters. I foolishly connected the Bible verse that I remembered with this account from Galatians, but it seems that the bit from Romans is just an exhortation that has relevance to our topic here. The account found in Galatians is just an illustrative application of the point. I hope that helps.
argosciv ago
No harm done, I haven't jumped straight to it, got something else on my mind ;)
Thanks for the swift correction.
GreenDell144 ago
Don’t we all? Lol. Hey, it took me a minute to look that up on my iPad and I noticed that the older translations are SUPER murky there. King James is not understandable. If it helps, try a Byingtons Bible. That one is somewhat modernized, without clunky ancient euphemisms. I recommend it.
argosciv ago
I'll admit, I won't be going out to do that, modernized or otherwise lol. With respect, a bible won't teach me anything I don't already know or that I can't learn elsewhere in life, when the time comes ;)
GreenDell144 ago
It’s free. There’s websites like biblehub, and biblegateway that have filters for whichever Bible you prefer. Also there’s tons of free apps.
argosciv ago
That's handy, still though, I'm quite content with my own sources ;)