To move this to the realm of the hypothetical, when you say they are different men, you are jumping to a conclusion.
It's a conclusion that ignores several other possiblities. Remember this isn't an artist looking at a man. It's someone describing a man to an artist to draw. It's by no mean a perfect process.
Other possibilities for having two sketches that don't look like the same man.
Neither witness got a good look at the man.
They witnesses simply remembered the man differently
One of the witness was better at describing the man to the sketch artist by the other.
They saw this man at night once and described him to an artists....a long time later, correct? Is that the sequence? Because if so, it probably would be unusual for the sketches not to be accurate.
Without knowing more about the exact details of this, it would be very hard to say anything conclusive.
The police say it's one man as described by two witnesses. Any reason why that is not the truth?
Well, I think you raise some valid points. I don't pretend to have answers to all of your questions and concerns.
I just think it is very strange for someone to mix up a box jaw with a thin jaw. I have done some portraits, and I know it changes the entire facial structure.
It is also strange that the two sketches happen to match the facial structures of the Podesta brothers. I think that is pretty remarkable. It is a very unlikely occurrence. Of course, this does not prove anything, but I am thinking probabilities here and probable cause.
I think it would take less than five minutes to search the database to see if either of the Podesta Brothers was outside the U.S. at the time in question. Based on the sketches, I think that the police have probable cause to do this basic search.
If it turns out that the Podestas were out of the country at the time in question, then I think it gives the police probable cause to determine what country they were in.
If it turns out that the Podestas were in Portugal at the time in question, then I think it really gives the police probable cause to investigate in much greater detail.
"The police say it's one man as described by two witnesses. Any reason why that is not the truth?" Because I do not trust the police. Most of them are Freemasons, and they will cover for fellow Occult members. Same with the police in other countries, especially England.
I just think it is very strange for someone to mix up a box jaw with a thin jaw. I have done some portraits, and I know it changes the entire facial structure.
This is kind only strange until you look at studies of eyewitness testimony and see some truly bad sketches that have been done.
It is also strange that the two sketches happen to match the facial structures of the Podesta brothers. I think that is pretty remarkable. It is a very unlikely occurrence. Of course, this does not prove anything, but I am thinking probabilities here and probable cause.
This is indeed odd.
I think it would take less than five minutes to search the database to see if either of the Podesta Brothers was outside the U.S. at the time in question. Based on the sketches, I think that the police have probable cause to do this basic search.
Really? Seriously, based on something done in another country? With no request from that police department. And that police department says it's one guy who is between 20-40 years old? Do you think the police a lying about it being one person?
Most of them are Freemasons, and they will cover for fellow Occult members.
The police will barge into someone's home based on less evidence. A classic example are the swatting incidences. The standard for probable cause is much lower than people expect. The e-fit was released by Scotland Yard, so it is not like it was done by someone sitting in their basement wearing a fedora. Besides, a quick look at the database to see if the Podesta brothers were out of the country would not inconvenience them at all. They would not even know it happened.
Yes, here we go. It is the same thing over and over again. There are noticeable patterns that should not be ignored.
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pby1000 ago
Those are different men. The facial structure is too different, especially the jaw.
Are_we_sure ago
To move this to the realm of the hypothetical, when you say they are different men, you are jumping to a conclusion.
It's a conclusion that ignores several other possiblities. Remember this isn't an artist looking at a man. It's someone describing a man to an artist to draw. It's by no mean a perfect process.
Other possibilities for having two sketches that don't look like the same man.
Neither witness got a good look at the man.
They witnesses simply remembered the man differently
One of the witness was better at describing the man to the sketch artist by the other.
They saw this man at night once and described him to an artists....a long time later, correct? Is that the sequence? Because if so, it probably would be unusual for the sketches not to be accurate.
Without knowing more about the exact details of this, it would be very hard to say anything conclusive.
The police say it's one man as described by two witnesses. Any reason why that is not the truth?
pby1000 ago
Well, I think you raise some valid points. I don't pretend to have answers to all of your questions and concerns.
I just think it is very strange for someone to mix up a box jaw with a thin jaw. I have done some portraits, and I know it changes the entire facial structure.
It is also strange that the two sketches happen to match the facial structures of the Podesta brothers. I think that is pretty remarkable. It is a very unlikely occurrence. Of course, this does not prove anything, but I am thinking probabilities here and probable cause.
I think it would take less than five minutes to search the database to see if either of the Podesta Brothers was outside the U.S. at the time in question. Based on the sketches, I think that the police have probable cause to do this basic search.
If it turns out that the Podestas were out of the country at the time in question, then I think it gives the police probable cause to determine what country they were in.
If it turns out that the Podestas were in Portugal at the time in question, then I think it really gives the police probable cause to investigate in much greater detail.
"The police say it's one man as described by two witnesses. Any reason why that is not the truth?" Because I do not trust the police. Most of them are Freemasons, and they will cover for fellow Occult members. Same with the police in other countries, especially England.
Are_we__sure ago
This is kind only strange until you look at studies of eyewitness testimony and see some truly bad sketches that have been done.
This is indeed odd.
Really? Seriously, based on something done in another country? With no request from that police department. And that police department says it's one guy who is between 20-40 years old? Do you think the police a lying about it being one person?
OK, here we go.
pby1000 ago
The police will barge into someone's home based on less evidence. A classic example are the swatting incidences. The standard for probable cause is much lower than people expect. The e-fit was released by Scotland Yard, so it is not like it was done by someone sitting in their basement wearing a fedora. Besides, a quick look at the database to see if the Podesta brothers were out of the country would not inconvenience them at all. They would not even know it happened.
Yes, here we go. It is the same thing over and over again. There are noticeable patterns that should not be ignored.
Are_we__sure ago
And they said it was of one man age 20-40.
And Scotland Yard did not create the efit.
That's not the point at all. What you are describing is an illegal abuse of power.