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MichaelClayton ago

Larp or not, how is making any change? Yeah people are inspired to research, but nothing is happening. Just more promises.

SoSpricyHotDog ago

You have to look at this through a realistic lens though... think about the scope of what is being claimed. It's decades of corruption, thousands implicated, huge amounts of money/black market activity, collusion at the highest levels of the government... and people expect this to be a "case closed" situation like we're investigating someone for insider trading on the NASDAQ.

For those of you who think this is "all talk, no action"... look at the Trump/Russia investigation. This has been going on for almost as long as we've had access to the leaked email accounts. And look how long this is taking. Mind you, the Russian investigation has been publicly presented to us as a dead-to-rights guaranteed case of guilt since day 1. It's almost never been reported as a possible case of collusion, but rather, collusion that occurred and simply hasn't been proven yet.

So, on one hand you've got an investigation into Russia that's resulted in next to nothing (other than multiple cases of collusion that implicate the left/prior admin) and that's okay! And on the other hand, you've got a grassroots/nearly invisible behind the scenes effort to shut down an unimaginably large and powerful corrupt shadow government that still holds incredible levels of influence - and that is supposed to magically be completely "case closed" immediately.

Please think about this rationally with respect to how large the scope is vs. other cases that have drug on for far longer, with infinitely smaller scopes.

The last thing we want is for there to be 200-300 arrests just to move quickly, and then sacrifice the full scope of the investigation by showing cards too quickly.

Are_we_sure ago

So, on one hand you've got an investigation into Russia that's resulted in next to nothing

Donald Trump's National Security Advisor has pleaded guilty to a felony and is a cooperating witness for the Special Counsel. He lasted less than 2 months. That's a pretty tremendous scandal. The terms of his deal means the other crimes he committed are being kept quiet for now. You only have seen what the special prosecutor has chosen to make public. So far we have 2 guilty pleas, 2 cooperating witnesses and 2 people indicted on 12 counts each.

The Watergate burglars were arrested on June 17, 1972. Nixon was reelected a few months later. and didn't leave office until August 1974.

Mrs_Ogynist01 ago

Yes, because the rate of flow of information in (pre-internet) 1972 is the same as it is today.

Maybe this investigation could wrap up if they would quit deleting the fucking evidence.

Are_we_sure ago

Flow of information to the public has nothing to do with how long prosecutors take.

The information explosion, email, texts, etc, would mean there is probably more information to wade through.

SoSpricyHotDog ago

Time will tell!

Are_we_sure ago

Indeed.

Axios is reporting tonight that Trump and Session put pressure on FBI Director Wray to fire McCabe. Wray said he would resign if McCabe were removed.

My take on the Q LARP is that it is very much part of this Team Trump attack on the rule of Law. So it may end up being that Q is close to Trump, but it would still be a LARP because it's all fake. The point of the LARP is provide support for a desperate measure from Trump a la the Saturday Night Massacre. This is a replay of some of the fake news they pushed during the campaign.

SoSpricyHotDog ago

So the FISA warrant memo is being over-hyped? Seems like a lot of effort and attention is being drummed up around it. If this is a coordinated LARP, it's beginning to hint back to the PG leaks... it's crossing over directly with research that others have done... the entire picture is coming into view.

Yet, I'm still seeing very little clarity on this "shadow" Russia looming over Trump.

For me to believe that all of THIS is a LARP, fake and coordinated is getting increasingly difficult to fathom.

And yet you tell me that there are no unanswered questions re: 9/11... nothing more to see re: Seth Rich... nothing re: the multiple leaked emails... nothing re: Clinton's email server.... nothing re: the Awan's.... nothing re: DNC/HFA... nothing re: Uranium One... nothing re: Podesta... nothing re: Abedin... no involvement w/ the Saudi's... etc.

Oh, and, McCabe is clean as a whistle, Comey was fired unfairly, and Trump is attacking the rule of law/obstructing justice? What? How? You really think that this entire effort is a LARP to craft a smokescreen around Russian collusion?

That would take one fuck of a stable genius to pull that off!

Even if you spend the evening responding to this in detail, you've got to admit the "official narrative" is officially far-fetched as fuck. You would be claiming that this 4-D Chess match is all fake to cover tracks re:Russian activity in order to hijack our election.

If so, you have jumped the shark at this point in time.

Are_we_sure ago

you've got to admit the "official narrative" is officially far-fetched as fuck

You've just thrown together about a dozen narratives, mostly unrelated in a truly Gorgeous GISH Gallop to make it look SOMETHING is going on.

One I'll pick out is Seth Rich. The Russian hacking/spearfishing/election interference campaign went waaaaaay, waaaaaay, beyond the DNC emails. The Seth Rich truthers tend to ignore this fact. They try to pin the whole thing on a kid who excited about being offered a job with the Clinton Campaign.

The same folks who went after Podesta, Colin Powell, election officials, are now going after the Olympic committee. These folks were a known threat in computer forensic world for years. The Seth Rich "narrative" has always been stupid.