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GenghisSean ago

I admire your enthusiasm @srayzie, and I don't think you're a shill. Q gives a lot of people hope that change is coming and on the surface that seems like it could only be good, right? I sincerely hope that high level arrests are on the way, and that the whole swamp will be drained for good. However, I am still skeptical. The swamp won't go down without a fight and I don't think they're as stupid as Q let's on. I fear Q is a psyop to give us hope and keep us from leaving our keyboards. To keep us from rallying or fighting back in more material ways.

It has been shown rather conclusively that Q has insider information about future false flags and future Trump tweets. That doesn't prove Q is not working for the enemy. It's possible that Trump is one of them, even though we all hope he is keeping his promise to drain the swamp. I hope you're right about Q and my skepticism is overly cautious. I really do.

AdmirableNelson ago

"Fighting back in more material ways" is always a mere inch from being an incitement to discrediting stupidity or violence.

On the other hand, any sincere person worried about child trafficking has to wonder if NO ONE with any power cares... So when figures emerge that clearly so care, that name Epstein, that make arrests... Well "overly cautious skepticism" smells funny. It's not a natural response for most people. And yet we see a flood of attacks on Q, from the most mindless trolling to the most refined, delicate, and subtle skepticism. There is WITHOUT QUESTION a war against Trump in the media and the internet.

I am strongly skeptical of your skepticism.

GenghisSean ago

"Fighting back in more material ways" is always a mere inch from being an incitement to discrediting stupidity or violence.

Your skepticism of my skepticism sounds fair to me. Let me first clarify that by "fighting back in more material ways," I didn't mean to condone violence. The "fighting" I had in mind was petitioning, peacefully protesting, and educating the masses on the crimes that the ruling class are committing in broad daylight to the most vulnerable of people. The reason I am skeptical is because I don't trust Trump. Presidents have made promises for a long time and as they come and go the situation doesn't seem to be getting any better. Trump has certainly broken the mold in a lot of ways, but his term isn't even halfway over. I don't want to count my chickens before they hatch.

Well "overly cautious skepticism" smells funny to me, given the big picture. It's not a natural response for most people.

The reason this is a natural response for me is because my entire worldview was turned on its head. I grew up in America, and I was lied to, indoctrinated, and manipulated subconsciously in ways that I'm still struggling to understand. Like many others, I'm finding it increasingly difficult to tell what is real. The longer Trump has been in office the more he has gained my trust. When he was sworn in I saw him as an elite exactly like Hillary, but I've since seen him stick his neck out for ordinary Americans. I really do want him to be a good guy. I try to keep up with Q because it is exciting to watch. It feels like history is being made before my very eyes. I want so badly for all of the criminals and monsters in government to be swept into cells in one fell swoop. I just hope I'm not being played again.

There is WITHOUT QUESTION a war against Trump in the media and the internet.

This is painfully obvious. A war was waged with Trump from day one (of his candidacy, well before he became POTUS). If the enemy weren't so adept in controlled opposition, this would be tremendous evidence for Trump's benevolence. They have used "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" to subvert and destroy one opponent after the other. A war has been waged, but I really hope this war isn't another banker's war. I hope this is a war with the bankers.

I am strongly skeptical of your skepticism.

I hope my disjointed rant helps you understand the source of my skepticism which you dub "overly cautious". I'm not being cautious because I want to flame Q or Trump, but because I'm afraid of being burned. I'm afraid of getting my hopes up and having them crushed again. That may seem link a poor reason for skepticism, but I don't think that keeping my mind open to any possibility is a bad thing. The hyperbolic and messianic aspects of both Trump and Q are legitimately concerning to me. Any idea that is above skepticism is dogmatic and dangerous, no matter how righteous it may seem. Finally, if you remain unconvinced of my skepticism, perhaps you might listen to this video that talks about some of the potential problems with Q more intelligently than I can. https://www.hooktube.com/watch?v=3e_e5WI_mjg

P.S. I am still rooting for Trump and Q. Bring on the storm and drain that swamp!

AdmirableNelson ago

I apologize, I was being presumptuous. I am a quite a bit quick on the trigger due to the intense shilling environment. I do realize a lot of people can have trouble knowing if they should trust Trump.

GenghisSean ago

No worries. Skepticism is always welcome. :)

Vindicator ago

@AdmirableNelson @GenghisSean -- This was a great conversation you two had. :-) It's so refreshing to see two folks in here disagree eloquently and with civility. Upvoats all around!

jervybingly ago

The halfhearted style of the video screams Shill. Some points from the video:

Sounds "prefab." Q explains at the beginning that MI generals and admirals thought through the corruption in the US and and the world, then asked Trump to run, so yes, it is prefab.

Title of vid: Reference to the Wizard of Oz, a child's movie, tries to make Q seem childish from the getgo.

Reference to Q's Language, saying it sounds like the language of a person not accomplished in English or an AI?. Absolute nonsense. Q explains clearly that for legal reasons his messages are questions. To me, the language and Socratic style are in fact eloquent, unique, or even poetic. I am not religious but a quarter or more of the US population is and the Biblical references Q uses are some of the best in a work of fiction that has a wealth of good advice among the hallucinatory bits. Q made "grammar mistakes"? Oh my. A busy person or group makes a grammar mistake that are in some cases messages in themselves. Mr cowboy hat made some grammar errors as well, but I assume he is a native speaker.

Q talks big, but nothing is happening? Utter nonsense. Let's see, a coup in SA related to a psyop in Vegas. Already, dozens of politicians on both sides of the aisle have decided not to run in the next election for fear of being busted. Hillary and McCain are NOT wearing boots? Indictments have NOT been made? Pelosi and McCain have not prepared for indictment by appearing disoriented when they face military tribunals, soon? Come on, you can do better than that.

Use of the words "Russia" and "dossier". Sounds just like Dem talking points. Sounds "corporate: Trump isn't a politician; he IS corporate.

Q sounds ''messianic": You think the messages sound messianic? That is part of the reason Trump was chosen to run. He and the group around him, are trying to save the US, and the world from "corrupt operators," so Q might sound a tad "messianic".

Constant reference to Benjamin Fulford, who is completely unknown to most readers. Fulford is brilliant at times, and ridiculous at others. Why harp on Fulford, who comes across as a brilliant buffoon at times and a CIA disinformation operative at others.

Your little video is entirely unconvincing and sounds like a CIA production.

Vindicator ago

jervy, I don't know if @GenghisSean could see your comment, since you replied to me and not directly to him. Pinged him for you.

jervybingly ago

Thanks very much for that. Do you agree with me partly at least"

Vindicator ago

Yes, I do. There is a proliferation of YouTube pundits riding the Q wave. I don't watch them much. Try to stick to the original source and decide for myself.

GenghisSean ago

Sure. It's possible that video is a CIA concoction. Perhaps I'm a fool for doubting Q at all and not giving him my unwaivering support. I agree the grammar mistakes don't seem like a legitimate criticism to me. I didn't catch the words "Russian" and "dossier" but that is a shilling red flag.

Q is very active in posting lots of cryptic messages. Consequently, it has taken a lot of people a lot of studying of his work to make sense of it. If he is a psyop, it makes sense to distract researchers from certain targets and occupy as much of their time as possible.

I hope that dude is a shill. That would provide additional evidence that Q is real. Thanks for your input @jervybingly! I'll have to rewatch the video with him shilling in mind.

jervybingly ago

Thanks. I'm pretty sure he is a shill. Everything points that way. I figure they are getting desperate about now. Glad you agree.