https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-disturbing-child-rape-movie-that-left-sundance-speechless
"‘The Tale’ depicts a grown woman (Laura Dern) working through the realization that she was sexually abused at age 13, graphically depicting those horrifying sexual-assault scenes.
In many respects, The Tale has been in the making for the last 35 years. But its Sundance Film Festival premiere Saturday afternoon—the first of this year’s festival to receive a standing ovation that we witnessed—is so timely it could very well have been called: #MeToo, The Movie.
The Tale is a memoir film in which writer-director Jennifer Fox confronts the sexual abuse she suffered when she was a 13-year-old girl, having spent the next three-and-a-half decades of her life convincing herself that she was engaged in a “special” relationship with a 40-year-old man, facilitated by a woman she trusted.
Both were people in her life she loved: “Mrs. G” (names were changed from Fox’s own life) was her equestrian trainer, and “Bill” was her running coach. Thirteen-year-old Jennifer is intoxicated by the regal, beautiful Mrs. G, and trusts Bill because of it. When Bill starts to coax Jennifer into a sexual relationship, she convinces herself that they’re in love. But she was just a girl. It was child rape.
Immediately following the post-screening Q&A, in which stars Ellen Burstyn and Jason Ritter broke down in tears talking about the movie, it became clear that this is the film everyone at Sundance will be talking about.
Its resonance—a woman realizing that what she had thought was a consensual sexual relationship was actually child rape—is one thing. That it shows, with purposeful unflinching detail, Jennifer’s rape at age 13 is another. (We witnessed multiple people walk out after this.) But that it doesn’t direct you how to feel about it, or moralize, or redeem, or reassure is its greatest power.
The Tale is relentlessly uncomfortable, and sometimes even aggravating. It wades into the murky waters of a complicated debate currently consuming culture, but doesn’t seek to satisfy or conclude it—which can be infuriating but is also necessary. It lacerates right through that conversation, letting the full range of opinions spill out. Yet it doesn’t seek to stitch it back up again and heal. Because that’s not it’s job.
Eventually she pieces together an explicit, clear-eyed recollection of the relationship with Bill, and we watch it play out on screen. It’s sickening.
But The Tale isn’t a linear narrative about a child who was raped. It’s an adult woman’s journey to the horrifying realization that her innocence was preyed on; that she was abused in a way that impacted the rest of her life. It’s her struggle through frustrating notes of denial, rationalization, misremembrance, and anger as she tries to piece together what really happened to her—not what her memory of it was—and why. How she feels about it now is almost an afterthought, until, at a major climax, it isn’t.
Throughout the film, Fox plays with form, storytelling structure, and the truth in jarring ways here—at one point Laura Dern, who plays Jennifer as an adult, is actually in conversation with Isabelle Nelisse, who plays her at age 13—to illustrate the myriad ways in which a person needs to communicate, with others and themselves, past and present, to reckon fully with an event like this.
When we meet Dern’s Jennifer, her mother (Burstyn) is leaving her a litany of emotionally charged voicemails, having just discovered an essay Jennifer wrote when she was 13 titled “The Tale,” which discussed the loving relationship she had with two adults: Bill (Jason Ritter) and Mrs. G (Elizabeth Debicki.) Her mother is beside herself. Suspicions she had 35 years before were true: these adults had taken advantage of her daughter.
“This is why I didn’t tell you,” Jennifer says, dismissing her mother’s concerns. “Can’t I just sit with my own memories?” she pleads, preferring to remember the relationship fondly instead relitigate it as assault. Nearly every line of dialogue hits you like a cannonball, its relevance to the stories and confessions that have been chronicled in the #MeToo movement these last months uncanny. “No,” her mother says. “I want you to nail them.”
She starts to visit people she hadn’t seen in decades, attempting to get a more detailed picture of that time that the years have blurred—part of her desperate search for a reason this happened to her. Or even to answer if anything happened to her.
“You were raped,” she’s told multiple times. “It’s complicated,” she instinctively retorts. She rages at the word “victim,” an indictment of the inherent lack of sensitivity in imposing a victim narrative on anyone who comes forward with a traumatizing story.
Eventually she pieces together an explicit, clear-eyed recollection of the relationship with Bill, and we watch it play out on screen. It’s sickening.
Bill baits her with lines like, “You’re not afraid of life, right, Jenny? You’re not afraid of living?” He and Mrs. G flatter her by telling her that she’s special, that they think of her as an equal, that they think they can trust her with secrets. Then we start to see the rape happen.
Would the film be as powerful if the acts were implied, instead of shown to wincing eyes on screen? Perhaps. But arguably, too, the impact is in bearing witness to the things Bill says and does and their brutal reality.
It starts with Bill getting Jenny to cuddle with him under a blanket. He says she deserves better than silly young boys; that he wants to “save” her from them. He phrases things in a way to make her think it’s her idea, like to take her top off, giving her the false comfort of an agency she doesn’t have.
We see them make out and it is grotesque. We see him, over multiple scenes that take place over a series of weeks, attempt to penetrate her. “We have to keep stretching you open, slowly,” he says. And then again: “No young boy would do this for you.” We see her give him a blowjob when it doesn’t “fit.” Eventually it happens, the camera switching between her face and his as it does.
The film ends with a disclaimer that the sex scenes were shot using an adult body double. Nelisse, who was 11 at the time of filming, only shot the dialogue parts of the scene, which are graphic in their own right. Fox would coach her on how to react properly to the pain of losing one’s virginity: ”Act like you’ve been stung by a bee.”
It would be impossible to list the myriad tenets of the conversation surrounding abuse and victimhood that the film explores. Should there be guilt or shame? Is she emotionally scarred? We wouldn’t purport to answer any of those questions, and maybe the film doesn’t intend to either. And that’s the prickly part of it, the thing that will keep us and anyone who sees it itching long after it ends.
While watching it, you’re not exactly sure what Jennifer wants the outcome of this whole journey to be, and you’re especially not sure what you want it to be either. What are you rooting for, if anything at all? It all builds up to a confrontation between Jennifer and Bill. Is it satisfying? Could it possibly be?
Casting Jason Ritter as Bill was a crucial decision. His image, based on the characters he’s played in Parenthood, Girls, Kevin (Probably) Saves the World, is that of the consummate nice guy—the adorable, safe, all-around “good” guy. “The whole idea was to take out of the closet the idea that perpetrators aren’t monsters that we can pick out,” Fox said after the film. Mission accomplished.
There was an air of speechlessness as the standing ovation died down. How does someone talk about this film? What do we even say? It’s something that Burstyn herself acknowledged, before beginning the dialogue in an impassioned, immediate way: “The exploitation of innocence is a deep, criminal crime, and it’s time now, right now, in this moment in our history, to change it.”
But she wasn’t done. “And I want to thank Donald Trump for that disgusting tape that he made that we all heard that was the final straw that broke the camel’s back,” she said to rousing applause. “And we can now at last deal with this problem that has gone on for centuries all over the world. This film is giving voice to it.”
Good grief. Burstyn had to go and ruin it with a non sequitur about Trump. As if the tape that "he made" had anything at all to do with child rape.
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Votescam ago
Fact --
Trust that's merely sarcasm ...?
Factfinder2 ago
I'm not sure what you think I wrote. I'll be more explicit and hope that helps:
Good grief. Burstyn had to go and ruin a great thing (the movie putting child rape in the spotlight and also her talking about the horror of exploitation of innocence and how it's time for it to stop, even crying about it). The way she ruined it was by dragging Trump into it with a dumb statement that doesn't even make sense--that the tape Trump made (he didn't make the tape) was the straw that broke the camel's back (which it wasn't because the tape didn't have anything to do with child rape).
Votescam ago
Fact --
What I was asking was, did you agree with Burstyn or not?
Trump did "made a tape" in the sense that he spoke on the tape about his inability to control himself sexually around beautiful women.
Trump made clear that he regularly would go up to beautiful women, kiss them and also "grab them by the pussy."
Burstyn is commenting NOW on a man who has since reached the Oval Office. And you see no connection to Trump's confession about his own sexual aggressiveness towards women he encounters and the recent revelations about sexual harassment and rape as revealed by women over the last week?
When Burstyn says Trump's tape was "the straw that broke the camel's back" what she means is that it is so outrageous that someone like Trump reached the White House that it very likely caused women to begin to tell their stories of sexual harassment and rape by men like Trump -- celebrities.
Sexual harassment and rape -- and what Trump describes he is doing to women -- are able to occur in our patriarchal societies because women are still unequal, still without equal power and thus without equal protection in our male-dominated societies -- and very importantly without power within our male-dominated government.
Re this .... (which it wasn't because the tape didn't have anything to do with child rape).
When women can so easily be sexual harassed, raped and sexually abused by males in our societies ... so can children. Women/Mothers do not have the power, therefore, to protect their children from sexual abuse by males.
And sex trafficking of children in America is a clear sign of that reality here and globally.
Further, many have commented on Trump's very odd behavior to his daughter Avanka - -calling her "baby" today. Having made previous comments about her allure.
For a father/parent it's inappropriate comment/behavior.
On the other hand, I'm much happier when Trump is spouting off ridiculously and telling the world who he is and what he's all about. It's helpful in many ways for the world to see him as he is ... though it may be highly embarrassing for Americans everywhere.
Hortance ago
Big lie in there....Trump didn't grab anyone by the pussy or say he did. Ever.
Trump was mocking the whores that throw themselves at famous people, saying that if he wanted to, he COULD go up and grab em by the pussy and they'd let him. Claiming Trump actually DID grab pussies is a stupid, willfully-ignorant smear of grade-school-level sophistication. The MORE interesting part of the story is that :
Billy Bush, a member of the Bush clan, taped this secretly in 2005....2005!!.....W was already President...the Bushes were ALREADY planning for little Jebburito to run, and wanted to clear the potential field.
This was no interview. Billy was wired like a snitch. Billy introduced the subject of women throwing themselves at him, and spoke so badly about women that the network he was working for in 2016 fired him for those comments made 11 years earlier.. He totally set up Trump to get an obnoxious comment from him. Funny they never made the whole tape available.....
This is more evidence that Trump is not a member of the swamp, and that the Bush crime family considered him an enemy 11 yrs prior to the last election.
Votescam ago
Hort --
Trump on videotape ....
Actually, the guy who wrote "Fury and Fire" is pretty much suggesting that Trump is already involved in another affair right now.
It looks like Melania hates his guts ....
She probably knows it would be dangerous for her to even try to leave -- especially that she has a son with the Moron.
Trump is a fascist -- as becomes more obvious every day.
Hortance ago
YOU said in your post that he'd actually grabbed em by the pussy, so you are already in the stocks for overstating your case. Pieces of conversations aren't convincing either. So he talked like lots of men do in private at the gym or a men's club. PLUS he was "encouraged" by an agenda-driven Bushite.
Yeah, some guy says he's having an affair now...oh, and Melania looks like she hates him....fricking TIRED and PETTY as hell crap from tea-leaf readers. The fact you're focused on this stupidity shows how petty and small you are.
And then another bald, unsupported assertion.....So how exactly is Trump a facist? This should be good....
Votescam ago
Hort --
Who knows what Trump actually does ... he can't control his mouth and he says he can't control himself sexually ... and he was advocating that he could "grab 'em by the pussy."
I find what Trump says all on his own to be quite revealing of who he truly is -- which is generally disgusting. Someone who "talks this way about women" should not be in the Oval Office. Trump is a grown up man responsible for his own behavior and what comes out of his own mouth. And generally his mouth is a cesspool -- showing us that so is his mind a cesspool.
Sorry .. but when a First Lady looks threatened by the guy she's married to it is everyone's business. Recall Ivana's story of Trump's rape of her -- after a rage about some plastic surgery he'd had on his head ... beat her first. Yes ... she denies it now but was part of divorce hearing.
Trump supports authoritarian ideas -- fascism. He's a bully from start to finish just as Hitler was.
This is not someone who is interested in democracy or equality -- or respect and protection for all of the people. This is a rich billionaire interested in sopping up the wealth of the nation for himself and other Elites/wealthy.
The attempt to overturn reproductive freedom is, of course, but one example -- but he looks and acts like a "white-supremacist" ... and he is of course a criminal. Where are his tax returns? Why are we paying $20 million every weekend for him to go to Florida? How many bankruptcies? And how many investigations of him right now? How many women have accused him of inappropriate sexual behavior, sexual abuse? -- 17-18?
Hortance ago
How is Trump worse than Obama? Who put his Mother-in-law in the White House at taxpayer expense....practitioner of Santeria, she sacrificed a CHICKEN in the White House. Barry has a long history of drug abuse AND DEALING. Plus there's the Man Country membership in Chicago, and all those other stories.... Is Trump worse than Hillary? Ever get a load of the way she conducted herself in the White House the FIRST time she was there? A RAGE machine, vicious and deadly..there's a list, you know....
"when a First LAdy looks threatened"...thats just the purest crap imaginable. Compared to the beast that was wiggling her ass and fist-pumping the last 8 years? She acts like a LAdy, all the time. You don't have any IDEA what she's thinking. Again, there's that pettiness.... Rational people don't make public assertions about character by "reading" tea leaves like that.
And another thing rational people don't do is fail to take what's offered in a DIVORCE proceeding with a grain of salt...especially when the lady retracts the statements as being from an emotional (she didn't want the divorce) place while negotiating. Plus they have a great relationship now, she endorsed his candidacy and denied her divorce charge was true....You, latching on and deciding to believe the repudiated story are, again, being petty as hell.
Love your last paragraph-- the scattershot, angry muddled non-rational thinking of a hard-core Lefty.
How about the ONE question I asked you---how is Trump a Fascist? A big charge, no examples even offered..... You really think you covered that with "Trump supports authoritarian ideas" and he's a "bully"? REALLY?
I was asking for an example....Fascism would have actual POLICY behind it....what policies are fascist? You can't support the bald, unsupported assertions of "fascism" that you made in your prior post by making ADDITIONAL bald, unsupported assertions. I'm still waiting.
Just because fascism sounds bad doesn't make it a good club to use on everything. I question if you know what it means. Let me help: When Obama circumvented normal bankruptcy procedures in order to FUCK GM bondholders, who should have gotten paid off FIRST in bankruptcy...thats FASCISM. When he gifts the company to the union, THAT'S fascism. When he leaves Federal Government "minders" in paid positions at GM, to report back to him and represent the Obama Administration at the company? THAT'S Fascism.
You, thinking Trump sounds like a "bully"? Doesn't cut it. POLICY, please?
Votescam ago
Hort --
BOTH national parties are controlled by the same Elite/wealthy; no difference between them or their corporate-fascist candidates.
BOTH parties are responsible for fascism here. And likely that Obama was CIA . . . in fact, it may be that Obama, Hillary and Bill were in MKULTRA program.
We would all be fools to ignore what Ivana said about Trump in the divorce - and it was a very detailed and painful story of being beaten by The Donald and then raped.
Trump continues the assault on labor and women -- on reproductive freedom -- that's fascism.
He's also obviously a sexual abuser of women -- which is done to exert power and control over women.
This is not a man interested in democracy -- as his racism also makes clear.
You don't think that expanding demands for more intelligence/surveillance of the American public is fascism?
You don't think that warmongering all over the world is fascism? How many "illegal wars of aggression" does the US/CIA already have going?
You make clear where you've been hanging out and getting "educated" ... what you sum up is that if democracies attempt to reign in corporate-fascism then that's fascism . . . !!! Good circular thinking. Look up corporate-fascism.
Trump is an authoritarian fascist trying to exert his will on the nation -- racism, sexism and homophobia. All while attacking the most vulnerable citizens among us - children, seniors, handicapped. He's a bully and always will be.
This is a liberal nation which wants to be Norway ... under the rule of fascism today.
Hortance ago
Unrealistic and agenda-driven.
BOTH national parties are against Trump. If they're fascist, why do they oppose him so overtly? When was the last time the leadership of a party turned on their own (elected by rank and file) candidate and tried to cause him to LOSE?
Ivana said she voted for Trump. BTW--that divorce is just about the only mistake I've ever heard Trump admit to....Their relationship is good, as reported by BOTH.
Trump is assaulting labor? He's CHAMPIONING blue collar workers by evicting illegals, and wages are RISING, a stated goal from the campaign. Its the REAL globalist fascists in both parties that are waging war on Labor. Trump WON because the blue collar vote understood that, believed him, and its paying off for them.
ABORTION? If being pro-life is fascism...well, at least we all know who we're dealing with now.... BTW, according to a big Gallup poll in late 2016, 46% of Americans call themselves "pro-life". 47% call abortion "immoral". Just to demonstrate how ASININE it is to call pro-lifers "fascists".
Last, you try to support the Obama Administration's takeover of both the banks and the auto industry as merely "reigning in" corporate fascism.....that is so fucking dishonest...its a slick lie. Appropriating entire industries is GOVERNMENT fascism. Do you think Federal fascism would necessarily include a complete takeover, and a change of GM's name to "Obama Motors" or something??.....the rules and the implanted "minders" (banks have them as well!!) ARE government fascism.
Trying to "exert his will" is more horse-s--t..... NAME a single policy that Trump is trying to implement that he DIDN'T run on during the election. You can't. Americans VOTED for that agenda. The fact that Trump won doesn't make you snowflakes into victims. Grow up.
Votescam ago
Where does the GOP oppose Trump? Have they censored him in any way? Have they responded to calls from citizens to limit his access to nuclear codes?
Have they stopped him from charging us $20 million every time he goes to Florida?
Have they forced him to supply his tax filings?
Elites who own both parties do not always agree -- Koch Bros. for instance/John Birch Society said that they thought Trump was too "volatile." Think most of us would agree with that.
Ivana's vote is secret -- no one can prove who she voted for.
Trump has $300 million .. is that the figure. That would be intimidating to any ex-wife. And I imagine it is also intimidating for Melania, especially since she has a son to think about.
Trump is damaging labor -- in every way possible -- wake up to reality. Are you going to take the job that some "illegal immigrant" leaves? It's Elites who profit from this illegal immigration. And it could be stopped immediately by doing what other nations do -- create an INSTANT SOCIAL SECURITY CHECK... Yet, our government continues to refuse to do that.
Wages are rising because we had an 8 year depression -- which Obama brought to an end two years before he left office -- not because anyone cares about the people, but probably to try to help the Dem Party which he largely destroyed. That's a huge backlog of things the public needs.
Americans support abortion and reproductive freedom ... and more than 50% of Americans support simple CHOICE. If you have a link to your "Gallup statistics" I'd like to see it ... as even Catholic women have abortions and just as many abortions as any other women. Catholic women in Ireland travel to the UK by the 100's every week to get abortions. So who is it you don't think are having abortions?
Anyone who wants to try to impose their religious beliefs on someone else by using the government to do it ... is a fascist.
Look for the mention of "corporations" in the Constitution. Let me know if you find it. What do you think fascism was in Italy except corporate-fascism?
Corporations exist to serve the public -- but what they're doing is serving themselves with high levels of criminality.
But presume you do think that corporations are people?
How about National health Care for ALL which this nation has been crying out for over decades now. How about Americans not supporting these "illegal wars of aggression" or the MIC/Intelligence Complex? How about our government permitting spying on citizens?
No one voted for Trump's agenda ... he lost by 300 million votes.
Our elections are also by the way "rigged."
Our American banks are laundering a half TRILLION $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ of drug money every year.
Hortance ago
You're nuts. Besides arguing BOTH sides of some issues ...Trump lost by 300 million votes?
Votescam ago
Donald Trump lost the popular vote by 2.8 million. Most Republicans are convinced he won. https://thinkprogress.org/donald-trump-lost-the-popular-vote-by-2-8-million-most-republicans-are-convinced-he-won-b0d8d3c0a0b0/
Ultimately, I think it was 300 million.
Our Elections have long been under corporate control in service of Elites/wealthy They are toss up corporate candidates, largely criminals. We are at the bottom of the barrel of it all now -- Trump is a perfect example of that.
Hillary, no better.