Many LGBT+ individuals support Alfred C. Kinsey's work. We had many pro-nambla bands at a specific venue I worked at. Some of their song lyrics were horrid. I wanted to hide in the corner and cry. I could not imagine what they do in private, though I figured a large majority of the members were sexually abused in the past. Moreover, an example of Kinsey's idealogy is the following quote by him; the leader of the North American Man/Boy Love Association (NAMBLA) in 1981.
"Gay liberationists in general, and boy-lovers in particular, should know Kinsey's work and hold it dear.... implicit in Kinsey is the struggle we fight today.1" North American Man/Boy Love Association (NAMBLA) 1981
Most people are fine with transgenders, gay people, etc. I am, I have no beef with what they find most natural or what they do in private. However, it seems most gay activists dismiss concerns of child sexual abuse–in part, by strenuously insisting that there is no connection between homosexuality and the sexual abuse of children.
That being said sexual abuse of boys appears to be common, underreported, underrecognized, and undertreated. Homosexual males molest boy victims far more often than heterosexual males molest girl victims. Psychologist Eugene Abel reported homosexuals, "sexually molest young boys with an incidence that is occurring from five times greater than the molestation of girls."
The rate of homosexual versus heterosexual child sexual abuse is staggering. 150.2 boys abused per male homosexual offender finds no equal (yet) in heterosexual violations of 19.8 girls.
Nonincarcerated child molesters admitted to from 23.4 to 281.7 acts per offender....whose targets were males" (Abel et. al., at 32-50. 44, 48)."37
The 1991, US Population, Statistical Abstracts data are compared to the accepted child sex abuse data.
1-2 million homosexual men, who comprise a very small percentage of the male population, managed to sexually abuse 6 to 8 million boys under the age of 18. Approximately the same number of girls were abused during the same time frame. However, it took 86-88 million heterosexual men to prey on that number of girls. Again, the data demonstrate that the rate of homosexual molestation of boys greatly outstrips the rate of heterosexual molestation of girls.
Since 100% of homosexual males do not sexually assault boys, and as you and I know, the majority are probably nice people: a vast subset of this highly cohesive population commits multiple, repeated child sex offenses. And I think I've worked among them. The homosexual population has been internationally identified in France, England and the USA as between 1% and 3% (in a range of 1.5% to 2%).38
This data illustrates that 2% homosexual population harbors a vast pederast boy abuse subculture, a public health problem of immense proportions that has been ignored.
Scroll down to the exerpt on Hunter S. Thompson, who talked openly about pedo cults and very likely could have been on of them...
https://steemit.com/news/@whitedeer9217/the-body-and-ritual-abuse-pt-1-comparing-gurdjieff-s-fourth-way-maria-abramovic-s-method
And while many homosexuals may not seek young sexual partners, the evidence indicates that disproportionate numbers of gay men seek adolescent males or boys as sexual partners or twinks as the trans punk bands like to call them. And yes, the majority of child molestation cases are heterosexual in nature. While this is correct in terms of absolute numbers, this argument ignores the fact that homosexuals comprise only a very small percentage of the population.
Pedophiles are invariably males: Almost all sex crimes against children are committed by men.
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Significant numbers of victims are males: Up to one-third of all sex crimes against children are committed against boys (as opposed to girls).
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The 10 percent fallacy: Studies indicate that, contrary to the inaccurate but widely accepted claims of sex researcher Alfred Kinsey, homosexuals comprise between 1 to 3 percent of the population. As I mentioned before Kinsey is a very shady fella.
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Homosexuals are overrepresented in child sex offenses: Individuals from the 1 to 3 percent of the population that is sexually attracted to the same sex are committing up to one-third of the sex crimes against children.
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Some homosexual activists defend the historic connection between homosexuality and pedophilia: Such activists consider the defense of “boy-lovers” to be a legitimate gay rights issue.
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Pedophile themes abound in homosexual literary culture: Gay fiction as well as serious academic treatises promote “intergenerational intimacy.”
I'd also look into the percentage of sexual partners of homosexuals vs. heterosexuals. The data also shows a disparity of immense proportions.
Lastly, statistics documenting transgender people's experience of sexual violence indicate shockingly high levels of sexual abuse and assault. One in two transgender individuals are sexually abused or assaulted at some point in their lives.1 Some reports estimate that transgender survivors may experience rates of sexual assault up to 66 percent, often coupled with physical assaults or abuse.2 This indicates that the majority of transgender individuals are living with the aftermath of trauma and the fear of possible repeat victimization.
https://www.ovc.gov/pubs/forge/sexual_notes.html#_edn2
https://www.ovc.gov/pubs/forge/sexual_notes.html#_edn1
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migratorypatterns ago
I think you've touched on a valid point and getting some pushback for it.
I just ran into yet another article about a celebrity kid that was transgender. He started his own organization and gave credit to Mr. Harry Hay! Yes, Mr. Man-Boy Love/NAMBLA/pev himself! It was sort of tragic, not only because this kid actually talked about how much he admired Harry Hay, but because there was this humongous hickey on his neck in the pic. The doting celeb mom seemed to take no notice of the blotch on her kid's neck, nor that he was praising a POS.
I'm a prime example of someone that feels that the gay movement was pushed and used to normalize -- and eventually legalize -- pedophilia. I didn't think twice about supporting an adult making his or her own decision about who they wanted to love and/or marry and so I was right there -- voting my little heart out on this concept of being free to choose who you wanted to love and giving rights to gay individuals/couples. It really did open a Pandora's box because the gay population is not adequately separating themselves from pedophilia and predation of minors. Forget about adequately, they're not doing it at all!
So now you have gay pedo couples free to adopt children and abuse them at will, you have grooming going on and having people tell you it's okay, movies made about it, sex toys featuring children hitting the marketplace, and now the emergence of a pedo/gay sex ring in PedoWood -- or as Bill Maher puts it -- a gay mafia:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alBqpQpimrs
Notice how TMZ covers this story with the lots of laughs and playful cartoon music in the back. It's all to the normalize the idea and Gaslight Maher while reporting on this at the same time. They treat the subject lightly -- gays in a mafia? What do they force people to color coordinate or something? But there are the stories that emerge. Do you think Michael Egan was taking this as a joke while he was being repeatedly raped and threatened with a gun to his head? Yeah, isn't that just funny guys! No need to cover the story as if it were serious or anything.
I remember from reading the ole Bible that it outlines gays and what was taking place. It made reference to how they'd rape anything, this while being infested with every known disease. I think back to what I read about the AIDs epidemic. Gay men were having sex with hundreds of sexual partners ... hundreds. They also were being treated for multiple sexual diseases that we concurrent and cumulative. The idea broached at the time was that the multiple partners/diiseases had something to do with the breaking down of the immune system, but that was pooh-poohed. Was it dismissed because alter the promiscuity?
Having said that, there are gay men I work with and know that are wonderful people so this is not an indictment. I've stated here that I will NEVER vote for another gay/transgender person because of this forced politicizing of the issue and because of the manor travesties that have occurred because of this broadening of definitions and doing away with needed boundaries of what people could do and what they couldn't do. And, no .... I don't fucking care how many celebrities tell me that children can choose who and how they express love, CHILDREN DON'T HAVE THE RIGHT TO CHOOSE SEXUAL PARTNERS OR ENGAGED IN SEX! Just NO!!!!
So then why am I choosing not to vote for a segment of the population when I just said I do not believe every single gay person is a blight on the planet? Because, and let me use all caps to make this real real clear: BECAUSE THE GAY COMMUNITY ITSELF NEEDS TO SEPARATE ITSELF FROM THE EXTREMIST SICKOS WHO THINK PEDOPHILIA IS OKAY AND WANT IT/ARE WORKING FOR IT BECOMING LEGALIZED!
That's what I need to hear ... see ... it needs to happen. If the gay community wants to continue to embrace all, I continue to withhold my vote and will give that vote to someone more conservative in thought. And that's the way it was going to be. And that's sad. Why? Because I worked with this one gay guy who had an abusive dad. What compounded it was that his dad was a priest. He was just to the point of having recovered memories surface and was undergoing counseling to handle it. He was one of the nicest guys on the planet, and I know damn well he would never -- as in NEVER -- want a kid hurt like he was. NEVER. But on the grand scale of things, do I hear this gay agenda-based community echoing this opinion. Nope, sure don't. Not a peep.
That's what bothers me. Groups have to police and speak out about these things. It's how to weed out the swamp creatures .. or Luciferian creatures in this case. It's funny that it's part of this stereotyping of gays as Suzy homemaker, ineffective, timid drag queens that we don't recognize that the population is polluted with degeneracy -- the same as every other group. You think I think all of my group are Mother Theresas? Hell no! There are wife beaters, murderers, thieves, child rapists, and every other type of shithole the mind can conjure into reality.
But I think this needs to be looked at in an objective way. What exactly are the numbers of the gay community that support pedophilia/violence? It's a fair question because we do have an identified cabal terrorizing PedoWood. So are they the tip of the iceberg? It would seem they're part of a bigger cult that embraces rape, murder, and debauchery. So I would plead for us to keep this real and discuss it objectively rather than lashing out at someone who brings up for discussion.
I also have been meaning to post something on others knowing about this current narrative being run. It will include the subject of homosexuality. Again, the notion of equality/rights for homosexuals was the juggernaut to push the insidious shadow into place. This evil cabal have used social issues quite effectively to mask their true intentions, so let's calm down and find out what's going on and not dismiss something out of hand. Who knows? The gay population that only wanted basic rights and were tired of discrimination may find that they've been victimized, too.
Votescam ago
Homosexuals are NOT our sexual abusers of children -- Heterosexual males are 100X MORE likely to sexually abuse a child than a homosexual male. Homosexual males seek adult relationships with other adult homosexuals.
migratorypatterns ago
Yeah, that's why Harry Hay was a member of NAMBLA. People join to protest man/boy love.
There is a pedophile ring operating in PedoWood. Numerous victims have said that it's comprised of gay men. If you don't want to acknowledge that gay men are sexual abusers of children, it's your right, but it does nothing to help solve the problem going on.
Votescam ago
Many people think that if a man rapes a male child that it's because he's a pedophile. Not true. Pedophiles simply have "preferences" ... some for males and some for females. The females are the majority of those abused -- and murdered. 82% female -- 12% male victims. Saudi Arabia obviously different. And the Saudi's proclaim ... "Women for procreation, Men for fun!"...
Many people still think that Sandusky was a homosexual because he raped young boys. He was simply a pedophile. Pedophilia is about the AGE of the victim, not the gender of the victim.
This website is being harmed by low quality posts and very little investigation of any value.
There used to be some very excellent investigators reporting their findings here.
Not so much anymore.
There are a handful of right wingers here who believe anything the GOP and Trump tell them... They're obsessed with anti-feminism, abortion, homosexuality, Jews, "blacks" .... It's pretty clear that they are out of touch with women -- probably addicted to pornography.
Despite the 2,000 year lies by the RCC against homosexuals ... it is heterosexual males who are our sexual abusers of children. The Church is also deeply involved in sexual abuse of children as we see over and again.
Heterosexual males, according to studies, seek adult relationships with other adult homosexuals.
Da-Cat ago
Comparative data of childhood and adolescence molestation in heterosexual and homosexual persons. Tomeo ME, et al. Arch Sex Behav. 2001.
Abstract
In research with 942 nonclinical adult participants, gay men and lesbian women reported a significantly higher rate of childhood molestation than did heterosexual men and women. Forty-six percent of the homosexual men in contrast to 7% of the heterosexual men reported homosexual molestation. Twenty-two percent of lesbian women in contrast to 1% of heterosexual women reported homosexual molestation. This research is apparently the first survey that has reported substantial homosexual molestation of girls. Suggestions for future research were offered. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/11501300/
Votescam ago
You have some kind of a screw up going on with that "data" ....
And I'm not even sure that you understand that what they are saying is that homosexuals are more often the victims of pedophiles than are heterosexuals. Did you understand that ...
And in your last sentence (and theirs) is screwed up as far as I can see... It should read this way .... "This research is apparently the first survey that has reported substantial molestation of homosexual girls."
Otherwise it reads incorrectly ...
Meanwhile the more impressive data presented allegedly is that HOMOSEXUAL MALES are the most likely to be molested by pedophiles.
I think the source and the data have to be looked at more closely, naturally.
srayzie ago
What @Da-Cat posted is what makes sense. I have a friend that’s a lesbian. She was molested for years by a family member. She told me that she knows that’s why she is a lesbian. Some victims will become an abuser themselves. Some victims will be so damaged that being with someone that is the gender of their rapist is too traumatic.
It makes sense that homosexuals have a higher rate of being molested themselves. It is a fact that someone who was abused as a child has a higher chance of growing up to abuse others. Some victims grow up and become sex addicts. Many times, victims turn to drugs and alcohol to cope.
So your warped view that homosexuals are much less likely than heterosexuals to molest children makes no sense.
Votescam ago
sray --
IF you are familiar with CIA's MKULTRA you will note that torture and sexual abuse has the power to change personalities -- often by creating new personalities. Young children taken over by the CIA who probably at the time didn't even know what their sexual orientation might be one day ... were turned into homosexual prostitutes.
They were also used for drug running and espionage.
And, I believe that male victims have also been tortured by the after-effects of sexual abuse by an adult male. That's the point -- these acts against children have long term effects on them in every way, including confusing them or making them unsure of their own sexuality.
Let's not get carried away in thinking that ALL victims of sexual abuse go on to sexually abuse others. They don't. ... I think estimates are 20% to 40%.... More than half of them do not sexually abuse others. But it's a very good reason to STOP adult males from sexually abusing children -- INCEST.
Did you lesbian friend suggest that she was sexually abusing anyone else? Very likely she has not done anything like that.
And, also true -- many victims of sexual abuse do turn to drugs and alcohol to cope ... but that was also mainly happening at a time when they felt they had to keep the abuse secret. When they were frightened to speak up against priests and celebrities in our societies. Let's hope those times are changing -- that "SURVIVORS" have more options now for better professional care to help them work through the trauma they suffered.
And that these survivors know that NOW ... TODAY ... people are listening to children and listening to adults who are survivors and believing them.
Those are the things which will help these survivors.