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SoberSecondThought ago

I know I'll get downvoated for this, but I just have to point out that the Planned Parenthood connection is nothing but "cold reading". Q did not mention PP in his initial post. Instead, he waited for an Anon to suggest digging into PP and then agreed with him. This is a consistent pattern in Q's communications; he asks broad questions, makes broad suggestions, and then waits for his audience to fill in the details in their own imaginations.

You're a good guy, @Vindicator, and I hate disagreeing with you, but Q sending us off after Planned Parenthood is pretty much exactly the same trick as Senate Anon sending us off after SOBIB and the Jesters. There's no doubt that SOBIB and the Jesters are dirty; they have already been shown by the FBI to traffick in children. But they have no connection to Pizzagate or the Clinton gang, which is all that Q cares about. The same goes for Planned Parenthood. Q will throw anyone under the bus to take pressure off his bosses.

Okay, I've said my piece. Carry on.

Vindicator ago

Q will throw anyone under the bus to take pressure off his bosses.

Sober, are you saying Q works for Clinton?

SoberSecondThought ago

As I explained in this post, Q is the same guy who was paid by David Brock to create all the other phony "insider" characters we have dealt with. He created "Tory Smith," HighLevelInsider, Senate Anon, and Wisconsin_Is_Corrupt. He also created ShareBlue Anon. He has made a few changes for Q, but he basically uses the same tricks over and over.

All of his other phony insider characters are now inactive, and I'm taking a big share of credit for that because I've attacked each one with detailed arguments. But I'm not making a big fuss and trying to debunk every bit of Q material that comes out, because I think the Q character is a big mistake. He has increased media attention on Pizzagate rather than decreased it. This guy is not a criminal mastermind, he's a demoralized, scared, frequently stoned and self-loathing abuse survivor who knows a lot about Freemasonry and other esoteric subjects. He should have had the sense to just shut up, when the cover-up he was hired for fell apart. But he didn't. So I'm content to let the Q story run as long as he is foolish enough to run it. I only posted a response here because it's a stickied thread and I think people deserve to hear my argument at least once, somewhere along the way.

The thing about the Q character is that because it relies so much on "cold reading" and letting people impose their own meanings into it, it has taken hold very strongly. I wouldn't even attempt to talk Liz Crokin out of believing in Q, for example. But I want to make sure and get my alternative view on the record, so people at least have a chance to make up their own minds.

Vindicator ago

Thank you for offering an alternative view, SST. I respect that. Could you clarify something for me? I have seen nothing from Q that points to him being

a demoralized, scared, frequently stoned and self-loathing abuse survivor who knows a lot about Freemasonry and other esoteric subjects.

Can you show me which of his comments gave you that impression? You can find them all here: https://qcodefag.github.io/ Hit Ctrl-F to search for key words.

SoberSecondThought ago

There are two ways to tell when Q is stoned. First, he retreats into topics that he feels most familiar with, where he is unlikely to be exposed or even challenged: ancient history, mystic symbolism, old conspiracies. Second, he starts making spelling and grammar errors, and to cover them, he retreats into posting lists, sentence fragments, and text salads.

In the first week, Q apparently stayed relatively sober. He raised a bunch of questions -- Pelosi's net worth, McCain's surgery, loyalty of the military to Trump, Democrats' relationship with blacks, donations by Saudi to American politicians, Sessions' focus on MS13 -- that were at least relevant. Then on Nov 1, he made some very specific predictions about the National Guard being activated, nationwide riots, nationwide arrests and martial law, the use of the Emergency Broadcast System, and so on. He also claimed that Obama had been to North Korea and "perhaps" was there now, and that this was the biggest "inside" info dump in American history. It's possible that at that point, he didn't consider Q to be a long-term project, so he didn't care that these things wouldn't come true. But anyway, none of them did.

By his second week, Q started getting vaguer, tossing out supposed code phrases and "bread crumbs" like Snow White, Alice & Wonderland, Godfather III, and the like. He began dragging in topics that had no obvious relevance, like the death of Princess Diana, and literally repeating himself, saying for example "Fantasy Land. Fantasy Land". His questions were much less focused, for example "What is a map? Why is a map useful?" And he moved into posting pure symbols, like this:

+++ ++ +

By Nov 11, he started posting lists of things, like a list of the names of central banks around the world. And for the first time, he dipped into the mystical stuff:

Triangle has (3) sides. Eye of Providence. Follow the bloodlines. What is the keystone? Does Satan exist? Does the ‘thought’ of Satan exist? Who worships Satan? What is a cult? Epstein island. What is a temple? What occurs in a temple? Worship? Why is the temple on top of a mountain? How many levels might exist below? What is the significance of the colors, design and symbol above the dome?

He also threw in Hitler, the Titanic, and the Lord's Prayer.

This is absolutely classic HLI/Senate Anon/Wisconsin_Is_Correct/Tory Smith material. It's what science geeks call "Not even wrong." It doesn't rise to the level of a testable proposition, it's just words. How could the color of Epstein's wacky shrine possibly be of vital national importance? Or who made it onto a lifeboat in 1912 and who didn't? It's paranoid babble. WIC would post random names of people who lived in Racine, WI and imply that every one of them was part of a conspiracy. If challenged, he would change the subject. This is the very same crap.

Ever since then, we've been on the rollercoaster of this guy's mood. Occasionally he is lucid and posts questions that while totally arbitrary, at least seem relevant, like "What if North Korea's missile test failures were staged?" The rest of the time it's just nonsense. He can spend days talking about some recent event like a plane crash and its supposed relation to junk like this:

Conf_D-TT^_v891_0600_yes _green1_0600 Bunker Apple Yellow Sky [… + 1]

When he posts something like this, it's not some sort of code message to special ops personnel about to extract George Soros at the Atlanta airport. It just means he's stoned and out of ideas:

:Owls: Light will overcome d_a_rkness. Light will expose darkne_s_s. Light will reveal darkness. Light will defeat darkness. Q

As I said before, I recognize that people have become invested in Q being real. I know I won't convince everyone. That's just the nature of crowds. All I can do here is point people back to all the previous "insiders" he has invented and underline the common pattern.

Onetime1 ago

Your response to the news about the Pope wanting to modify the Lord's Prayer days after Q included it his post? The bracketing of LdR days before a plane FLEW into an airborne helicopter above the Rothscild's mansion? How many people reading this have EVER heard of a plane crashing into a helicopter in flight? It is not even an easy task to do. His reference to Fiji water days before the bizarre, ostentatious drinking of Fiji water during a live news conference byTrump? His phrasing using the words starting with BDT, mentions currency and thwarted attack one day before Bangaceshi (national currency starts with BDT) attempted a failed explosive attack in NYC? The phrasing Red October at the time of the Argentine sub going missing? (Since determined an explosive sound occurred at time and place of disappearance).

SoberSecondThought ago

If Q had said, "The Pope will announce that he wants to change the Lord's Prayer," and then the Pope did announce that, it would be proof of something. Him simply posting the Lord's Prayer and waiting for his audience to invent a reason why he did it, proves nothing and explains nothing. Mentioning the Rothschilds and then having the Rothschilds come up in the news (which they do regularly) also doesn't prove anything. These "bread crumbs" aren't meaningful or actionable. They're not even coincidences. They're just the result of Anons being hyper-alert for anything resembling a connection.

Seriously, how is Trump supposed to know that an Argentine sub is going to explode? And if he somehow did know, why would he instruct someone on his staff to leave an obscure hint about it on 8chan? And more to the point, how does this relate to government corruption or child sex trafficking?