Satanism is very much a mixed bag. The Christians of Trump's base don't understand what Satan means. Satanism is often perceived as being about evil, but is some contexts it can be about justice.
Satan hates humans and is the author of confusion. It can never be about justice because Satan doesn't want justice, he wants revenge. And we all know the vengeful don't care if you're guilty or not.
You've just described the Satan of Christianity, which is inconsistent with the Satan of Judaism. Satan simply means adversary, to assume that your adversary does not have just cause is pure vanity. The first chapter of the book of Job is worth a closer look.
Yeah, @Shizy is a good example of a Trumpling who is too proud to admit that they are ignorant or a liar. Kind of interesting that Trump has a problem with pride, Trump professes to be Christian, and Christians associate pride with Lucifer's fall from grace.
Not my problem really. As for Trump, well, I trust his candor and apparent intentions - I'm sure I'd have plenty to disagree with him over if we laid it all out on the table, but, I'm willing to trust that he's working towards a greater goal that I can get behind & that he'd know full well where I'm coming from on certain topics :P
an extravagant statement or figure of speech not intended to be taken literally, as “to wait an eternity.”.
The context of Christianity and Satanism is vastly misunderstood by most, though... but, it doesn't matter what I share on that topic, it'll fall on mostly deaf ears around here xD
" I went from VERY successful businessman, to top T.V. Star..... ....to President of the United States (on my first try). I think that would qualify as not smart, but genius....and a very stable genius at that!"
IMO pride has a lot to do with the Christian misunderstanding, what's your take on it?
I started attracting a lot of downvotes after I posted that Muslim women have rights. Pointing out that Christianity misapprehends the nature of Satan is another unpopular view.
I should point out that the rights I'm talking about are from the Quran, and that they're not spelled out explicitly even though the Quran is clear in saying that they do exist. The nature of the relationship between men and women is at the center of the bridegroom symbolism of the gospels, too.
That's kinda the crux of the problem I suppose, the weaponization of ambiguous wording and just outright lies about intent, has led to a dangerous schism across the board - everyone needs to get their shit together before WWIII breaks out in full...
There is so much to undo, though, with so much blood on their hands... it's clear as day, to myself at least, that although some good is thrown into Islam & The Quaran, this merely acts as fodder for the old, "but we're a religion of peace!" defence.
Many countries have had Islam forced upon them over the centuries and bred into them for so long, that it's simply "the way of things", their internal fuckery and disputes leading to massive bloodshed, up to tihs very day, can't go unignored.
That's kinda the crux of the problem I suppose, the weaponization of ambiguous wording and just outright lies about intent, has led to a dangerous schism across the board - everyone needs to get their shit together before WWIII breaks out in full...
Yes, according to the Bible the ambiguity (or confusion) of language of language began with the tower of Babel (Babel means confusion). Babylon was the first of a series of empires. The continual quest for dominance that drives empire is one of the main social drivers for war.
There is so much to undo, though, with so much blood on their hands... it's clear as day, to myself at least, that although some good is thrown into Islam & The Quaran, this merely acts as fodder for the old, "but we're a religion of peace!" defence.
IMO the biggest single problem with Islam is the Hadith. The Quran was written as a complete document, but the Hadith has an extensive history of errors, and even after discarding the obvious ones contradictions remain. The core meaning of Islam is submission to Allah. The Hadith is to Islam like what the Talmud is to Judaism, a collection of manmade writings which provide a rich environment for social heirarchies and the politicization of religion. Islamic culture of course has it's own history of empire building, although not as extensive as the emipres that developed from Rome and the Roman Catholic Church.
Many countries have had Islam forced upon them over the centuries and bred into them for so long, that it's simply "the way of things", their internal fuckery(literally incestuous) and disputes leading to massive bloodshed, up to this very day, can't go unignored.
The Palestinian problem is related. When Islam came to Palestine some Jews converted to Islam in order not to lose possession of their land. Islam and Judaism are quite similar religions, the main difference being sacrifice and the more exclusive attitudes of Judaism.
" I went from VERY successful businessman, to top T.V. Star..... ....to President of the United States (on my first try). I think that would qualify as not smart, but genius....and a very stable genius at that!"
IMO pride has a lot to do with the Christian misunderstanding, what's your take on it?
Pride regarding "stable genius" tweet:
I suppose, yes, you could say he was being prideful/boastful there - somewhat within reason, though, I would argue. Obviously not everyone is going to agree with the statement, but, it's also easy to frame it in an excessively negative light, if one is already so inclined to do so for DJT's online interactions. It's not any worse than the drivel hurled at him prior to that tweet, though, in regards to recent events xD
Pride regarding the Christian misunderstanding:
Interesting take on it... Not to say that pride is inherently a bad thing, but, you may be on the money with that - even as such a short assessment. I wouldn't say it's the sole contributing factor though & likely not always one at all, sometimes fear and lack of experience/opportunity to learn can be contributing factors too.
I would say mostly, it's the lack of opportunity and motive to dig deeper and seek out obscure knowledge from alternate sources - sometimes a dash of ignorance - most people have lives to live, though; they rarely have the time to sit there and comb through history while looking at it from multiple angles at once, let alone see a reason to question things so deeply.
The other part of the problem is indeed the obfuscation methods of Christianity and Satanism, which unfortunately can lead people on either side of that particular fence, on a bit of a goose chase until they're able to see the deeper connection - sounds a bit conceited when I write that out in text though, lol... That said, the clues are all around, especially in some of the music videos I post and explained in a couple of my research submissions.
I agree, but I don't think it sounds conceited to speak of the obfuscation methods of Christianity and Satanism. Christianity is really based on the traditions of the Church Fathers, any attempt to look outside the box will be shut down. Satanism is necessarily secretive, you're unlikely to be a successful adversary if you telegraph your strategies to your opponent.
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NeoMarxistZoomDweeby ago
Wow, so Satanism is the answer to the Trump era? Fucking shit, they really aren't even hiding it anymore. The western world has lost its fucking mind.
Random101 ago
Satanism is very much a mixed bag. The Christians of Trump's base don't understand what Satan means. Satanism is often perceived as being about evil, but is some contexts it can be about justice.
pizza-party-pooper-2 ago
Satan hates humans and is the author of confusion. It can never be about justice because Satan doesn't want justice, he wants revenge. And we all know the vengeful don't care if you're guilty or not.
Random101 ago
You've just described the Satan of Christianity, which is inconsistent with the Satan of Judaism. Satan simply means adversary, to assume that your adversary does not have just cause is pure vanity. The first chapter of the book of Job is worth a closer look.
argosciv ago
Don't waste your time, too many around here will simply refuse to look deeper... sad.
Random101 ago
Yeah, @Shizy is a good example of a Trumpling who is too proud to admit that they are ignorant or a liar. Kind of interesting that Trump has a problem with pride, Trump professes to be Christian, and Christians associate pride with Lucifer's fall from grace.
argosciv ago
/shrug
Not my problem really. As for Trump, well, I trust his candor and apparent intentions - I'm sure I'd have plenty to disagree with him over if we laid it all out on the table, but, I'm willing to trust that he's working towards a greater goal that I can get behind & that he'd know full well where I'm coming from on certain topics :P
Random101 ago
Like they say, the road to hell is paved with good intentions. Within the context of Christianity and Satanism, Trump's pride is a bit of a red flag.
argosciv ago
Eh, depends how seriously you take it...
dictionary.com - Hyperbole
The context of Christianity and Satanism is vastly misunderstood by most, though... but, it doesn't matter what I share on that topic, it'll fall on mostly deaf ears around here xD
Random101 ago
By pride I mean him tweeting that he's a genius.
" I went from VERY successful businessman, to top T.V. Star..... ....to President of the United States (on my first try). I think that would qualify as not smart, but genius....and a very stable genius at that!"
IMO pride has a lot to do with the Christian misunderstanding, what's your take on it?
argosciv ago
ps: for what it's worth, it's not me downvoating you - someone who feels threatened by our conversation, is throwing a fit xD
Random101 ago
I started attracting a lot of downvotes after I posted that Muslim women have rights. Pointing out that Christianity misapprehends the nature of Satan is another unpopular view.
argosciv ago
Yurp, that'll about do it...
^ Both sure-fire ways to piss off the ignorant and shills alike.
Random101 ago
I should point out that the rights I'm talking about are from the Quran, and that they're not spelled out explicitly even though the Quran is clear in saying that they do exist. The nature of the relationship between men and women is at the center of the bridegroom symbolism of the gospels, too.
argosciv ago
That's kinda the crux of the problem I suppose, the weaponization of ambiguous wording and just outright lies about intent, has led to a dangerous schism across the board - everyone needs to get their shit together before WWIII breaks out in full...
There is so much to undo, though, with so much blood on their hands... it's clear as day, to myself at least, that although some good is thrown into Islam & The Quaran, this merely acts as fodder for the old, "but we're a religion of peace!" defence.
Many countries have had Islam forced upon them over the centuries and bred into them for so long, that it's simply "the way of things", their internal fuckery and disputes leading to massive bloodshed, up to tihs very day, can't go unignored.
Random101 ago
Yes, according to the Bible the ambiguity (or confusion) of language of language began with the tower of Babel (Babel means confusion). Babylon was the first of a series of empires. The continual quest for dominance that drives empire is one of the main social drivers for war.
IMO the biggest single problem with Islam is the Hadith. The Quran was written as a complete document, but the Hadith has an extensive history of errors, and even after discarding the obvious ones contradictions remain. The core meaning of Islam is submission to Allah. The Hadith is to Islam like what the Talmud is to Judaism, a collection of manmade writings which provide a rich environment for social heirarchies and the politicization of religion. Islamic culture of course has it's own history of empire building, although not as extensive as the emipres that developed from Rome and the Roman Catholic Church.
The Palestinian problem is related. When Islam came to Palestine some Jews converted to Islam in order not to lose possession of their land. Islam and Judaism are quite similar religions, the main difference being sacrifice and the more exclusive attitudes of Judaism.
argosciv ago
Ah righto, I see where you're coming from there.
Pride regarding "stable genius" tweet:
I suppose, yes, you could say he was being prideful/boastful there - somewhat within reason, though, I would argue. Obviously not everyone is going to agree with the statement, but, it's also easy to frame it in an excessively negative light, if one is already so inclined to do so for DJT's online interactions. It's not any worse than the drivel hurled at him prior to that tweet, though, in regards to recent events xD
Pride regarding the Christian misunderstanding:
Interesting take on it... Not to say that pride is inherently a bad thing, but, you may be on the money with that - even as such a short assessment. I wouldn't say it's the sole contributing factor though & likely not always one at all, sometimes fear and lack of experience/opportunity to learn can be contributing factors too.
I would say mostly, it's the lack of opportunity and motive to dig deeper and seek out obscure knowledge from alternate sources - sometimes a dash of ignorance - most people have lives to live, though; they rarely have the time to sit there and comb through history while looking at it from multiple angles at once, let alone see a reason to question things so deeply.
The other part of the problem is indeed the obfuscation methods of Christianity and Satanism, which unfortunately can lead people on either side of that particular fence, on a bit of a goose chase until they're able to see the deeper connection - sounds a bit conceited when I write that out in text though, lol... That said, the clues are all around, especially in some of the music videos I post and explained in a couple of my research submissions.
In This Moment + Rob Halford Perform 'Black Wedding' (Billy Idol) - 2017 Loudwire Music Awards
Random101 ago
I agree, but I don't think it sounds conceited to speak of the obfuscation methods of Christianity and Satanism. Christianity is really based on the traditions of the Church Fathers, any attempt to look outside the box will be shut down. Satanism is necessarily secretive, you're unlikely to be a successful adversary if you telegraph your strategies to your opponent.
argosciv ago
Nail on the head there, I must say.
^ Especially this.