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AdmirableNelson ago

I find this thread highly dubious. I think anyone that observes events can clearly see Trump is our best hope. It is very easy to see that narratives to the contrary are calculated attempts to "blackpill", demoralize, and divide. There is VAST evidence of propaganda operations aimed at such demoralizing and dividing all over the internet. It world be absurd to think that propagandists would NOT try to infiltrate and demoralize an online community like this-- therefore, it is prima facie plausible that any thread that is congruent with anti-Trump propaganda originates from a common source as that with which it is congruent.

Hortance ago

Agreed. And the other thing that makes YOUR points congruent: Trump's enemies. Why do the NeverTrumpers in the GOP all seem to be the elite Globalists in the Party? When else have members of EITHER Parties' leadership worked to throw a Presidential campaign to the other side, as the GOPe did to Trump?
If Trump belongs to any "cabal", it starts with those military Generals who are anti-Globalist, patriotic and opposed to both the Globalist, open borders agenda and the uglier stuff this board focuses on...

DeathToMasonsASAP ago

Hey, I like the fantasy. I almost made a rock of my fast and high fived you. I like your fire. But the Trump hate started on queue. When it was show time, they all acted hysterical like he ran over their child. He isn't doing anything to them. He is one of them. And he is going to deliver the agenda he was selected to deliver. They need a divided nation. Trump vs the world has divided the country and kept the citizens at each other throats. Mission accomplished.

think- ago

If Trump belongs to any "cabal", it starts with those military Generals who are anti-Globalist, patriotic and opposed to both the Globalist, open borders agenda and the uglier stuff this board focuses on...

Are there any Generals that spoke up against pedophilia?

Did the (((Military Industrial Complex))) get less money => (((Dyncorp)))?

Isn't there dark stuff going on in the Military as well? => Aquino/Satanism?

Didn't Trump surround himself with (((ex-Goldman-Sachs staff)))? Billionaires and millionaires? => Mercer, Koch brothers anyone?

Isn't there a strong Israel connection and didn't Trump just say he accepts Jerusalem as Israel's capital?

(((Military Industrial Complex))) - (((Goldman-Sachs))) (((Israel))) are Deep State.

carmencita ago

Oh boy. So True about the Military. There have been arrests on here of soldiers filming the rape of girls at basses and other Military Pedo arrests. There are many Military Higher Ups that are involved up to their necks in this Morass. Make no mistake about it.

Hortance ago

Well, there's Mike Flynn, who was reportedly fired by the WH after Pence insisted on it.....because he didn't tell Pence about a pedo list he is keeping about government officials...so yeah, the Generals Trump is in with seem to be opposed to Globalism and pedophilia. Obama GUTTED our military. We need to be strong, there are real reasons to rebuild our military..especially as China and Russia both become more adventurous.
More $$ into military systems (and the VA) does NOT = muh Military Industrial Complex, muh Dynacorp. Robert Mercer worked AGAINST Trump throughout the primaries, the Koch Brothers are sworn enemies that continue to try to advance open borders. And the vast majority of the CONGRESS has voted numerous times to make Jerusalem our recognized Israeli capitol. Trump simply quit extending the annual delay every President has been doing for the last 3-4 Administrations. So what in the hell does THAT prove? Given that the REASON Obama and Bush kept delaying implementation was the anticipated reaction of the so-called "Palestinians", all Trump did was show that a strong US President could name our own capitol without Kowtowing to filthy terrorist potentates and prove that Obarry and GW Bush are huge pussies.

Are_we_sure ago

because he didn't tell Pence about a pedo list he is keeping about government officials.

Where did this idea start?

think- ago

the Koch Brothers are sworn enemies

'The Koch brothers launch campaign to pass President Trump's tax cuts

WASHINGTON — In a major jolt of support for President Trump, the powerful political network overseen by conservative billionaire Charles Koch is launching a multimillion-dollar campaign to drive Trump's tax plan through Congress.'

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2017/05/18/koch-brothers-support-trump-tax-plan/101810990/'

ESOTERICshade ago

And the vast majority of the CONGRESS has voted numerous times to make Jerusalem our recognized Israeli capitol.

WTF? What do you mean OUR RECOGNIZED CAPITOL? Are you an Israeli?

So you support Israel's genocide of people who have been living in Palestine for 2000 years? You support giving Jerusalem to a bunch of Zionist Talmud thumpers who hate and despise Jesus, and will make a mockery of Jerusalem?

Hortance ago

How old is the Temple in Jerusalem? The first one. A thousand years before Christ. That'd be 1,600 years before Islam was even INVENTED. And somehow, the Muslims MUST have that 1 little scrap of land that the Jews built their first Temple on? Small world, I guess....What a coincidence!

The ONLY reason the Islam scum act like Jerusalem is important to them is they like to construct their mosques atop the religious centers of what they think are their "vanquished" enemies. Like when they attempted to build a mosque @ the World Trade Center. Plus they hate Israel, so the Arab Muslims want the constant state of war ....That tiny piece of land is Israel's, the Arab Muslims have territory all around it that is many hundreds of times as large. And the Arabs that live there are almost all Jordanian. There IS no Palestinian people.

Go ahead, tell us how da Joos murdered Jesus before you go check your account at StormFront.

ESOTERICshade ago

Plus they hate Israel

Everybody that is sane hates Israel

ESOTERICshade ago

That tiny piece of land is Israel's, the Arab Muslims have territory all around it that is many hundreds of times as large. And the Arabs that live there are almost all Jordanian. There IS no Palestinian people.

The hateful Jewish supremecist reveals itself! "we are Gods chosen people! God gave that land to us!"

No asshole, you are not god's chosen people, you are just an asshole.

ESOTERICshade ago

We need to be strong, there are real reasons to rebuild our military..especially as China and Russia both become more adventurous.

China and Russia are simply playing along as the Silk Road trading route is extended through the Middle East and Yemen is taking an ass kicking in the process. The whole 'Russiagate" is an absurd theatre to keep the public amused.


We need to be strong, there are real reasons to rebuild our military

I lost count of the deep state military ops running in Africa right now but I think its close to a hundred. The Military Industrial Complex is literally FEASTING right now thanks to the Republicans.

What we see is a huge weapons industry ramp up and new military toys for the NWO to keep right on plugging. Millions of children in Yemen are literally rolling around on the ground in Yemen, in horrible pain, dying from cholera because of this.

The Silk Road is going through the Nile Delta in Egypt, Suez Canal, and into the Gulf Of Aden and Yemen is being destroyed because Yemen is a crucial piece of land in this process.

think- ago

Mike Flynn, who was reportedly fired by the WH after Pence insisted on it.....because he didn't tell Pence about a pedo list he is keeping about government officials.

Well, yes, 'reportedly'....what is Flynn going to do with this list should it exist?

the Generals Trump is in with seem to be opposed to Globalism and pedophilia.

Globalism: remains to be seen. The sacked EU trade agreement could be a beginning. Pedophilia? Not that I heard of. Never heard any General speak up about pedophilia.

Trump simply quite extending the annual delay every President has been doing for the last 3-4 Administrations.

Well, if it could be delayed for so long, why not delay it further?

,,,,,I will look up the Koch brothers again. ;-)

ESOTERICshade ago

If Trump belongs to any "cabal", it starts with those military Generals who are anti-Globalist, patriotic and opposed to both the Globalist

Trump sold 110 BILLION DOLLARS of weapons to Saudia Arabia so that Saudia Arabia can finish off the Middle East. Rothschild founded Israel and built a Supreme Court Building there with an illumaniti pyramid and the all seeing eye. Trump is helping Rothschld take down Iran.

His tax plan is a windfall for Goldman Sachs bankers and the richest 1% of the people on planet earth. I hardly call that "anti globalist."

This sort of naive hope is what keeps humanity enslaved.

Hortance ago

He REWARDED the new Saudi Prince who has been--if you failed to notice---jailing Saudis who have been so involved in US politics (like al-Waleed)...big Clinton Foundation contributor whose top financial guy reportedly wrote letters of recommendation and helped fund Obama Harvard.....Ugly. As. Hell. al Waleed's wife has been quoted as admitting to their participation in human trafficking, white slavery, the whole 9 yards.

The tax plan STRENGTHENS the US economy. Which the globalists have been trying to level down over the past 25 years to make Americans more amenable to global governance. Goldmans and the Soros types make money anyway, up or down markets.

Trump is helping the new Saudi leadership (fighting a proxy war with Iran in Yemen) and the ENTIRE world by opposing Iran. OBAMA helped Iran, refusing to support their freedom movements, etc....and giving them $$ and time to get a nuke.

You want "naive"? Reflexively regurgitating Goldman's/da Joos and aiming it at Trump whenever possible.

InnocentAngels ago

One thing I do like about the new Saudi prince is he is giving women more civil rights. That is a step in the right direction. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2017/10/30/saudi-arabia-will-allow-women-to-attend-sporting-events-in-stadiums/?utm_term=.7a6036060371

think- ago

The tax plan STRENGTHENS the US economy. Which the globalists have been trying to level down over the past 25 years to make Americans more amenable to global governance.

Yes, for a couple of years - but it will increase the debt => more profit for the usual suspects...

ESOTERICshade ago

He REWARDED the new Saudi Prince who has been--if you failed to notice

He sure did. The told them he would not consfiscate their assets and leave them holding the bag alone for 911 if they played their role in destroying the Middle East as Israel's proxy.


Saudi Arabia is elbow deep in debt to the western banking oligarchs. Nixon set up a deal in the 1970's for Saudia Arabia to funnel their surplus oil revenue into U.S. Treasury bonds. Biggest mistake the Saudis ever made too. Now they are trapped in Rothschild debt.


A couple of years ago the western oligarchs rattled the sabers in Saudia Arabia,s direction by "finding" the "missing" 28 pages of 911 documentation that showed Saudi complicity in 911. House Of Saud helped U.S./British intel and Mossad pull off 911. That was a threat that Saudi would be left holding the bag alone, and bombed into the stone age, if they did not fulfill their role in destabilizing the middle east.


Trump is helping the new Saudi leadership (fighting a proxy war with Iran in Yemen) and the ENTIRE world by opposing Iran.

Yep. The plan to destabilize the Middle East and steal resources from other nations is rolling right along. Innocent men, women, and children are being bombed out of their homes and killed for greedy western oligarchs and Trump is leading the charge by selling Saudia Arabia 110 Billion dollars worth of weapons to do it with.


The Saudis are a bunch of murdering savages just like they always were. The part of the Saudi family that got arrested didn't want Salman to be King because they did not believe he was the rightful heir to the throne. They were afraid he would seize power, throw them under the bus, and take all their money, and take Saudia Arabia to war with Yemen and Iran and that is exactly what is happening.


North Korea, Iran, and possibly Cuba are the only countries left of any size that don't have a Rothschild bank and the western banking system intends to take them down. You can spin it any way you want to but this is the truth.


The Saudia Arabia take down was explained by "Q" as the third leg of the evil global triangle being taken down for the first time in history. That is laughable beyond all proportions.


Spin like yours, or gullible naive notions, is what keeps humanity bouncing between the fake left/right paradigm.

Hortance ago

Propping up the IRANIANS was what was destabilizing to the Middle East. BTW the Saudis aren't trapped in Rothschild debt....they just made an agreement to sell their state oil production via the stock market (IPO) and they signal their intent to INVEST in US oil production....in other words, quit funding the Earth-worshippers anti-fracking lies and start ....

RE: You are spewing your pre-prepared boiler plate at me when I've already demonstrated that I understand how the "Left/Right paradigm" doesn't exist...the Right establishment GOP IS Globalist. I've been real clear on that. Save the claptrap, I know you're dying to use it, but its misapplied on me. "The Plan to destabilize the mideast" was Obama's plan. Yemen is launching rockets INTO Saudi Arabia, as agent for Iran. Thats on Iran.

There is a handful of you here that has very regularly introduced accusations that "Trump is the swamp/Trump is deep state" THATS whats laughable. The truth is that neither of us is naive or gullible...but YOU have an agenda. Nobody believes it. Nobody is being influenced. Why not give it a rest?

ESOTERICshade ago

Propping up the IRANIANS was what was destabilizing to the Middle East.

Middle East destabilization started right after the 911 psyop and has nothing to do with Iran. It started with Iraq's fake "weapons of mass destruction" which never existed. They destroyed Iraq and have not stopped because they are not finished yet.


they just made an agreement to sell their state oil production via the stock market (IPO) and they signal their intent to INVEST in US oil production

They are up to their eyeballs in debt and have almost a 100 billion dollar budget deficit. Look it up. In order to survive they are cannabilizing Aramco which is the Saud family jewel. Before it is all over, as decades pass, western oligarchs will end up fucking the Saud family out of most of it.


You are spewing your pre-prepared boiler plate at me when I've already demonstrated that I understand how the "Left/Right paradigm" doesn't exist

Why keep marching to that drum then?


Yemen is launching rockets INTO Saudi Arabia, as agent for Iran. Thats on Iran.

Same sort of disinfo that was used right after 911 to start bombing the middle east. Same shit, different day.


There is a handful of you here that has very regularly introduced accusations that "Trump is the swamp/Trump is deep state" THATS whats laughable.

Its called reality and some of us are looking at it instead of ignoring it. The entire notion that Trump is fighting the globalists is laughable for anybody that reads world news.

think- ago

al Waleed's wife has been quoted as admitting to their participation in human trafficking, white slavery, the whole 9 yards.

That was fake, unfortunately. The post about it some days ago has been flared 'debunked'. Salman isn't the good guy in this game. This has not been about freeing innocent children from child sex slavery. It's just a struggle for power.

Trump is helping the new Saudi leadership (fighting a proxy war with Iran in Yemen

Yes, unfortunately. There are great numbers of people who are killed or are starving to death at present, including women and children.

There shouldn't be war with Iran. Look what happened in Syria. A desaster.

Obama agreed to support Hezbollah and enriched them, which was absolutely wrong, too.

There must be some middleway in between. A new war will mean more innocent people killed, more refugees, more human trafficking, more child sex slavery.