My guess is that to know the truth about Arpaio you'd have to go back to his DEA days in Central America. Whatever his motives as sheriff they had to be an offshoot of that period in his career. I want to believe the best about Arpaio, I even hired him to speak at a dinner for my professional organization way back in the early 90's when he was just becoming known. But then I think about the relationship with Zullo and Montgomery....stuff that no normal sheriff would be wrapped up in, as well as the whole battle with the judges here including Murray Snow, and I just have to wonder...who was this guy?
The thing is, there's no such thing as a perfect human being. You take them how you get them. We aren't simple; we're complex. That's the problem. So you'll be hearing me talking about compassion and in the next minute, berating someone at work for making a mistake. What I'm saying is that I'm sure there's a reason, but we don't know the motivation for including very diverse and sometimes opposing views in one's arsenal. Consequently, we end up befriending a guy who steals, or sells drugs, or whatever. Do we know they're a bad guy? Yes, but there's something there that clicks and damn if they're not our friend.
I'm not giving Arpaio a pass for any wrongs he's committed, but he did stand up and say what most of us were thinking. Trump also. So maybe he's flawed. It could be that. The thing to figure out is his motivation. What's the agenda? If you can figure that out, you can excuse the rough spots.
Does he hate the cannibal elite? My understanding is his department couldn't be bothered to investigate sex crimes in Maricopa County -- even when children were involved:
No, this is not correct. What the hell was the problem? I'm trying to remember, but it doesn't surprise me that he was slurred by false reporting.
Oh, it had to do with human trafficking! Yes, from what I remember Arpaio was very aware of human trafficking and, unfortunately, many of these sex crimes were associated with human trafficking. When he went to follow up on the reports, some women wouldn't cooperate, but most couldn't be found. The handler whisked them and the children into the night and there went the case. I tried to find the article I read, but Google has it buried ... somewhere ... but I see where you're getting this now.
Ok, thank you! If you can find anything to corroborate, that'd be really helpful. Because, as you can see, all the usual suspects -- from the NYT to the Guardian -- are smearing him.
I will pass it along. I happened to run across it and I was like, is that what happened! Made so much sense with the amount of human trafficking and illegal immigration in that state.
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migratorypatterns ago
Remember that Arizona is Ed Buck's state. He came to prominence by getting involved in a recall election and has had a hand in politics ever since.
millennial_vulcan ago
AND Sheriff Joe Arpaio of Arizona just announced running for Senate seat. WTF is going on?! This is fishier than fish :(
https://www.salon.com/2017/12/08/now-joe-arpaio-wants-to-run-for-jeff-flakes-senate-seat/
@carmencita
migratorypatterns ago
Why? Do you suspect Arpaio? I would think he'd be trying to clean things up given his hatred for the Cannibal Elite.
total_winner ago
My guess is that to know the truth about Arpaio you'd have to go back to his DEA days in Central America. Whatever his motives as sheriff they had to be an offshoot of that period in his career. I want to believe the best about Arpaio, I even hired him to speak at a dinner for my professional organization way back in the early 90's when he was just becoming known. But then I think about the relationship with Zullo and Montgomery....stuff that no normal sheriff would be wrapped up in, as well as the whole battle with the judges here including Murray Snow, and I just have to wonder...who was this guy?
migratorypatterns ago
The thing is, there's no such thing as a perfect human being. You take them how you get them. We aren't simple; we're complex. That's the problem. So you'll be hearing me talking about compassion and in the next minute, berating someone at work for making a mistake. What I'm saying is that I'm sure there's a reason, but we don't know the motivation for including very diverse and sometimes opposing views in one's arsenal. Consequently, we end up befriending a guy who steals, or sells drugs, or whatever. Do we know they're a bad guy? Yes, but there's something there that clicks and damn if they're not our friend.
I'm not giving Arpaio a pass for any wrongs he's committed, but he did stand up and say what most of us were thinking. Trump also. So maybe he's flawed. It could be that. The thing to figure out is his motivation. What's the agenda? If you can figure that out, you can excuse the rough spots.
total_winner ago
you're exactly right, and I still hope Arpaio is a total white hat.....
migratorypatterns ago
Me, too.
chabon ago
Does he hate the cannibal elite? My understanding is his department couldn't be bothered to investigate sex crimes in Maricopa County -- even when children were involved:
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/10/us/sheriff-joe-arpaio-criticized-over-handling-of-sex-crimes-cases.html?mtrref=duckduckgo.com&gwh=40E42330883DE586338B7F7D02333704&gwt=pay
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/apr/08/arizona-phoenix-sheriff-joe-arpaio-rape-case-settlement
https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2011/12/08/143355817/arizona-sheriff-joe-arpaio-under-fire-for-mishandled-sex-crime-cases
http://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/news/victims-wonder-why-arpaio-let-sex-abuse-cases-languish-6463426
migratorypatterns ago
No, this is not correct. What the hell was the problem? I'm trying to remember, but it doesn't surprise me that he was slurred by false reporting.
Oh, it had to do with human trafficking! Yes, from what I remember Arpaio was very aware of human trafficking and, unfortunately, many of these sex crimes were associated with human trafficking. When he went to follow up on the reports, some women wouldn't cooperate, but most couldn't be found. The handler whisked them and the children into the night and there went the case. I tried to find the article I read, but Google has it buried ... somewhere ... but I see where you're getting this now.
chabon ago
Ok, thank you! If you can find anything to corroborate, that'd be really helpful. Because, as you can see, all the usual suspects -- from the NYT to the Guardian -- are smearing him.
migratorypatterns ago
I will pass it along. I happened to run across it and I was like, is that what happened! Made so much sense with the amount of human trafficking and illegal immigration in that state.
chabon ago
Yes. More ugh. TY!