I've been following Pizzagate since last October. I seem to be in the minority among you in m skepticism for Trump and his establishment. What makes you all trust him so much? (pizzagate)

submitted ago by djklbd

From what many of us are gathering on /pol/ and r/conspiracy lately, we're starting to doubt the "anti establishment" qualities of his presidency.

To me, it seems as if the elite chose him as a populist to appeal to theorists and subvert our effectiveness as the truth movement. We are traditionally skeptical of politicians, especially the presidency.

At seem as if the trust for trump spread once the "alternative media" starter to endorse him. Alex jones, PJW, cernovich,ect. Couldn't these guys be gatekeepers that "flipped" on us?

Here are a few concerns I have with the trump presidency.

  • Trump was financially bailed out by Wilbur Ross, A Rothschild consigliere in 1990, after his failing Taj Mahal project.

When questioned why he helped him, Ross said; "the trump name is still very much a future asset for us"...

How is his Rothschild connection anti establishment in the slightest? Aren't the Rothschilds the evil English banking dynasty?

Also, trump made Ross a cabinet position. Why was this a good move?

http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-wilbur-ross-commerce-20161208-story.html

  • After singing the harms of Wall Street and corrupt bankers, he makes several Goldman Sachs and wealthy billionaires his cabinet members. The point is, he lied to you, turned around, and "got the band back together" so to speak, appointing many of the former bush era cronies in positions of power. Why is this good for us ? Do you trust a Goldman Sachs cabinet? Explain.

https://www.thewealthadvisor.com/trump/goldman-sachs-hogging-trump-cabinet-appointments

  • Why did trump meet in private, and visited the home of known globalist Henry Kissinger? These first 3 alone are fucking incriminating as shit and, reveal to me, a very establishment friendly puppet. Can you explain this? Are you OK with this and why?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/05/16/donald-trump-to-meet-with-henry-kissinger-gops-foreign-policy-eminence-2/

  • Trump often discussed his plan to defeat the "terrorism boogeyman" in ISIS, and often cites his willingness to, as he put it, "bomb the shit out of them and take the oil". Why is he pushing the fake terrorism boogey man to accelerate more illegal war?

Also, why after claiming terrorism was bad, and that Saudi Arabia was a known funder of terrorism (and potential 9/11 involvement), why did he do a multi million dollar arms deal with Them?

https://youtu.be/aWejiXvd-P8

  • You would agree that the CIA is a globalist and evil intelligence agency, correct? Why Is trump saying that the CIA is "great" and "terrific"? Why did he say that he was behind them "1000%"?

https://youtu.be/T4Ej4wXR7cM

  • Why was his Bombing of Syria a strategic move for the betterment of US citizens? Was it not allowed to occur under false pretenses?

Also, after criticizing Obama's policies, how are the continued drone strikes helping make America great again?

  • Finally (I will be editing more, stay tuned), also after criticizing Obama and his waste of taxpayer money to fund vacations and golf trips, is trump already golfing almost every weekend and wasting over $400,000 dollars A DAY for security at the Trump Tower? How are these acceptable to you? Why are you willing them slide.

These questions should be very easy for you to explain, considering your die hard and obsessive support for him as the current POTUS. How do these moves, which many of us consider to be terrible overreaches of power and authoritarianism, benefit our country and help take down TPTB?

http://www.latimes.com/opinion/topoftheticket/la-na-tt-trump-golf-20170327-story.html

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Splinterinyourmind ago

I think the reason people want to trust him is hope, and the fact that his administration is pretty much the only party that could feasibly be working to solve this problem. I don't necessarily trust him, but I certainly hope the people who do are right.

djklbd ago

I think the reason people want to trust him is hope, and the fact that his administration is pretty much the only party that could feasibly be working to solve this problem.

See, I never got drawn into this false hope idea, hoping he's working for us. I guess I just have way too much skepticism of the political system and I knew they would get someone who works for TPTB on their behalf in the white house. They always do.

HOWEVER, that doesn't mean all hope is lost. I truly believe a massive awakening is underway and will hit it's peak during the end of Trump's first term. We just need to keep waking people up, take things to the next level trying to reach the masses. I'm very optimistic.

Splinterinyourmind ago

And there's also the Q posts. The poster has been verified as in the administration in at least a couple of the posts. And the information corroborates directly with the past, present, and future. Idk, I think there is reason to hope.

edit: even if trump is no good, its pretty clear his administration is at odds with the powers that be.

djklbd ago

even if trump is no good, its pretty clear his administration is at odds with the powers that be.

What evidence is there to support this?

99% of trump supporters in the conspiracy realm (or any realm), support him because they think the media attacks on him add credibility to his anti establishment appeal. That, and a WHOLE lot of lip service. It's been a year, and he's looking like more of the same to me..

With southern accent "If the media is corrupt, and they're attackin' Trump, Trump must be'a good guy!!"

You don't think the social engineers could be staging this media onslaught to add credibility to him as an "outsider"?

Remember how the media dealt with ron paul? They just IGNORED him. That's how they deal with real outsiders. Trump got the most airtime of any candidate ever, and it thrusted him to the R nomination. They knew what they were doing...

Splinterinyourmind ago

In his first year, there have been more human trafficking related busts than under the entirety of president Obama's two terms. We have a verifiable anonymous leaker from within the administration helping paint the picture, its not imagined. Less congressmen than ever aren't seeking reelection, there are daily sexual scandal reports, and revelations in the mainstream media of tying some of these people to human trafficking rings. I'm not a trump supporter, I didn't vote for him. You're projecting your own partisan bullshit.

djklbd ago

You're projecting your own partisan bullshit.

I am entirely non-partisan. Thats part of the reason why i'm not drawn into the conservative trump fuck fest that has plagued the truth movement as of recently.

Has trump acknowledged anything about pizzagate? No. So why are you attributing all of these recent human trafficking arrests to him personally? Sounds like you have to do a LOT of reaching to make trump appear as a good guy. It's much easier to point out his corrupt NWO cabinet members and policies he's already carried out, which I did in my OP.

He has done nothing for me to give him the benefit of the doubt, and skepticism is a way smarter move than blind support of any politician. Especially the president for fuck's sake...These guys are selected in advance.

Splinterinyourmind ago

Blind support and hope are simply not the same thing. There's ample evidence to suggest its a complete shitshow behind the scenes right now. As citizens, there's little we can do but hope and gossip. I'm honestly not a "trump supporter", but the evidence is swaying me to believe something bigger is going on. I just tried to answer your question speaking for people, cause I'm a jerk; I hope I answered decently. Your responses seems like as much of a stretch as my answers.