I've been following Pizzagate since last October. I seem to be in the minority among you in m skepticism for Trump and his establishment. What makes you all trust him so much? (pizzagate)

submitted ago by djklbd

From what many of us are gathering on /pol/ and r/conspiracy lately, we're starting to doubt the "anti establishment" qualities of his presidency.

To me, it seems as if the elite chose him as a populist to appeal to theorists and subvert our effectiveness as the truth movement. We are traditionally skeptical of politicians, especially the presidency.

At seem as if the trust for trump spread once the "alternative media" starter to endorse him. Alex jones, PJW, cernovich,ect. Couldn't these guys be gatekeepers that "flipped" on us?

Here are a few concerns I have with the trump presidency.

  • Trump was financially bailed out by Wilbur Ross, A Rothschild consigliere in 1990, after his failing Taj Mahal project.

When questioned why he helped him, Ross said; "the trump name is still very much a future asset for us"...

How is his Rothschild connection anti establishment in the slightest? Aren't the Rothschilds the evil English banking dynasty?

Also, trump made Ross a cabinet position. Why was this a good move?

http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-wilbur-ross-commerce-20161208-story.html

  • After singing the harms of Wall Street and corrupt bankers, he makes several Goldman Sachs and wealthy billionaires his cabinet members. The point is, he lied to you, turned around, and "got the band back together" so to speak, appointing many of the former bush era cronies in positions of power. Why is this good for us ? Do you trust a Goldman Sachs cabinet? Explain.

https://www.thewealthadvisor.com/trump/goldman-sachs-hogging-trump-cabinet-appointments

  • Why did trump meet in private, and visited the home of known globalist Henry Kissinger? These first 3 alone are fucking incriminating as shit and, reveal to me, a very establishment friendly puppet. Can you explain this? Are you OK with this and why?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/05/16/donald-trump-to-meet-with-henry-kissinger-gops-foreign-policy-eminence-2/

  • Trump often discussed his plan to defeat the "terrorism boogeyman" in ISIS, and often cites his willingness to, as he put it, "bomb the shit out of them and take the oil". Why is he pushing the fake terrorism boogey man to accelerate more illegal war?

Also, why after claiming terrorism was bad, and that Saudi Arabia was a known funder of terrorism (and potential 9/11 involvement), why did he do a multi million dollar arms deal with Them?

https://youtu.be/aWejiXvd-P8

  • You would agree that the CIA is a globalist and evil intelligence agency, correct? Why Is trump saying that the CIA is "great" and "terrific"? Why did he say that he was behind them "1000%"?

https://youtu.be/T4Ej4wXR7cM

  • Why was his Bombing of Syria a strategic move for the betterment of US citizens? Was it not allowed to occur under false pretenses?

Also, after criticizing Obama's policies, how are the continued drone strikes helping make America great again?

  • Finally (I will be editing more, stay tuned), also after criticizing Obama and his waste of taxpayer money to fund vacations and golf trips, is trump already golfing almost every weekend and wasting over $400,000 dollars A DAY for security at the Trump Tower? How are these acceptable to you? Why are you willing them slide.

These questions should be very easy for you to explain, considering your die hard and obsessive support for him as the current POTUS. How do these moves, which many of us consider to be terrible overreaches of power and authoritarianism, benefit our country and help take down TPTB?

http://www.latimes.com/opinion/topoftheticket/la-na-tt-trump-golf-20170327-story.html

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manfredmustermann ago

I passively followed pizzagate from the beginning and think it has much credibility but got less enthusiastic about it when trump seemed to be more and more naively interpreted as undercover savior. I never understood how one could heavily rely on such a narcissistic clown now even showing to be supporting Zionism. I got really concerned about this democrat/republican split that became quite prevalent. As most movements lose momentum through inclusivity issues and creating a strong in- and outgroup identity I think it is unfortunate how this very relevant issue of systematic pedophilia and sexism gets sometimes even rhetorically gobbled up in i.e. conservative rhetoric by frequently using it to legitimate homo/transphobia/xenophobia sometimes giving me a hard time to stand behind pizzagate when words like ‘faggot’ appear to be a no brainer in many threads here. Thank you from Germany as I think this post is very important and relevant, directly speaking to my latest concerns with pizzagate losing its focus of being an inclusive movement against the corrupt-elite-pedophilia that can make a difference by fighting together instead of politicizing it for other means. For those interested, I share a recent podcast on SoundCloud by Abby and Robbie Martins that is directly related to this thread: https://soundcloud.com/media-roots/us-saudi-kills-yemen-fake-news-fail-ousting-sex-predators

pimpinainteasy ago

Excellent post, especially now that Trump is going to be declaring Jerusalem to be the capital of Israel.

A country which is a MAJOR human trafficking hub, just FYI...