I've been following Pizzagate since last October. I seem to be in the minority among you in m skepticism for Trump and his establishment. What makes you all trust him so much? (pizzagate)

submitted ago by djklbd

From what many of us are gathering on /pol/ and r/conspiracy lately, we're starting to doubt the "anti establishment" qualities of his presidency.

To me, it seems as if the elite chose him as a populist to appeal to theorists and subvert our effectiveness as the truth movement. We are traditionally skeptical of politicians, especially the presidency.

At seem as if the trust for trump spread once the "alternative media" starter to endorse him. Alex jones, PJW, cernovich,ect. Couldn't these guys be gatekeepers that "flipped" on us?

Here are a few concerns I have with the trump presidency.

  • Trump was financially bailed out by Wilbur Ross, A Rothschild consigliere in 1990, after his failing Taj Mahal project.

When questioned why he helped him, Ross said; "the trump name is still very much a future asset for us"...

How is his Rothschild connection anti establishment in the slightest? Aren't the Rothschilds the evil English banking dynasty?

Also, trump made Ross a cabinet position. Why was this a good move?

http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-wilbur-ross-commerce-20161208-story.html

  • After singing the harms of Wall Street and corrupt bankers, he makes several Goldman Sachs and wealthy billionaires his cabinet members. The point is, he lied to you, turned around, and "got the band back together" so to speak, appointing many of the former bush era cronies in positions of power. Why is this good for us ? Do you trust a Goldman Sachs cabinet? Explain.

https://www.thewealthadvisor.com/trump/goldman-sachs-hogging-trump-cabinet-appointments

  • Why did trump meet in private, and visited the home of known globalist Henry Kissinger? These first 3 alone are fucking incriminating as shit and, reveal to me, a very establishment friendly puppet. Can you explain this? Are you OK with this and why?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/05/16/donald-trump-to-meet-with-henry-kissinger-gops-foreign-policy-eminence-2/

  • Trump often discussed his plan to defeat the "terrorism boogeyman" in ISIS, and often cites his willingness to, as he put it, "bomb the shit out of them and take the oil". Why is he pushing the fake terrorism boogey man to accelerate more illegal war?

Also, why after claiming terrorism was bad, and that Saudi Arabia was a known funder of terrorism (and potential 9/11 involvement), why did he do a multi million dollar arms deal with Them?

https://youtu.be/aWejiXvd-P8

  • You would agree that the CIA is a globalist and evil intelligence agency, correct? Why Is trump saying that the CIA is "great" and "terrific"? Why did he say that he was behind them "1000%"?

https://youtu.be/T4Ej4wXR7cM

  • Why was his Bombing of Syria a strategic move for the betterment of US citizens? Was it not allowed to occur under false pretenses?

Also, after criticizing Obama's policies, how are the continued drone strikes helping make America great again?

  • Finally (I will be editing more, stay tuned), also after criticizing Obama and his waste of taxpayer money to fund vacations and golf trips, is trump already golfing almost every weekend and wasting over $400,000 dollars A DAY for security at the Trump Tower? How are these acceptable to you? Why are you willing them slide.

These questions should be very easy for you to explain, considering your die hard and obsessive support for him as the current POTUS. How do these moves, which many of us consider to be terrible overreaches of power and authoritarianism, benefit our country and help take down TPTB?

http://www.latimes.com/opinion/topoftheticket/la-na-tt-trump-golf-20170327-story.html

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Hortance ago

Youre obviously just trying to staple Trump to the Globalist bastards we're all learning to hate. That means your side is losing.

For everyone else.... 1. Trump has all the right enemies. 2. Trump is trying to bring back Glass-Stegall, which Bill Clinton ended....allowing the big banks to merge with the big brokerages. It only took them 8 years (2008 crash) to destroy the dollar. Since 2008 they've been making a mint and buying more and more politicians ....Trump wants to break them up....They HATE him. Trump has actively pursued policy that the Globalists hate....tightening borders, stopping the "levelling" of the US economy with the world with new trade deals and ending NAFTA....and preaching to the world on the biggest stages of his international trip about the virtues of Nationalism, maintaining their own sovereignty and being patriotic about their countries.

The suggestion that Trump is a globalist is laughable. Doesn't mean he's perf3ect. Far from it. This thread is an attempted con.

mooteensy ago

Agreed. How is this even in this forum? What about v/AskPizzagate? Clogging up the front page with shit about Trump seems like a good way to distract people.

Hortance ago

Right. Highly political thread, with an OP that dishonestly says, to start, "I'm just a country farm boy, I'm just trying to understand why y'all like Trump", then begins pouring arguments out to suggest Trump is an elite globalists.

"Trump is one of THEM" ......The Left uses this strategy when trashing their opponent is failing, and some of their pols are getting in trouble...."Everybody is doing it, the new guy isn't any different than us"....Its always their SECONDARY argument, used when they are losing.

djklbd ago

You literally have yet to address any of my questions about him. Can you not come up with a rebuttal other than attacking my character?

Maybe not everybody here is deepthroating your precious populist president...

mooteensy ago

@djklbd Why don't you post this on one of the other forums that is intended for this type of dialogue. You will find people with many different opinions on Trump, but not many in this sub with incredibly different opinions on Podesta, Alefantis, Marina Abrovamic (Spirit Cooking), Hillary, Soros, Laura Silsby (now Laura Gayler), etc.

djklbd ago

Because TPTB (the ruling class, the NWO) are trying to prop up Trump's reputation on all conspiracy related forums, and many people here are crediting Trump directly with these human trafficking arrests.

But I think it's pretty obvious that not all of us have blind faith in him, and we need to divorce ourselves from him being associated with this investigation.

Particularly because he is implicated, as his relationship with Jeffery Epstein would prove.

I find this relevant.

mooteensy ago

I think you just don't like Trump and wish he was one of the people takin a ton of heat right now, instead of Roy Moore or Epstein. That doesn't make this relevant. Sorry

djklbd ago

I think you just don't like Trump and wish he was one of the people taking a ton of heat right now, instead of Roy Moore or Epstein. That doesn't make this relevant. Sorry

Why?I don't understand your logic. This just seems lazy. All I did was point out my skepticism for Trump.

Can you respond to any of the shit I posted? Only one fucking guy actually did (which I appreciate, even if I disagree), but cmon man you have to do better than just attacking my character. I'm not the one putting blind faith into a demagogue like you are..

mooteensy ago

I assure you there is nothing lazy about my logic, and your lack of understanding stems from your inability to have faith. When it comes to Trump, only time will tell!