I've been following Pizzagate since last October. I seem to be in the minority among you in m skepticism for Trump and his establishment. What makes you all trust him so much? (pizzagate)

submitted ago by djklbd

From what many of us are gathering on /pol/ and r/conspiracy lately, we're starting to doubt the "anti establishment" qualities of his presidency.

To me, it seems as if the elite chose him as a populist to appeal to theorists and subvert our effectiveness as the truth movement. We are traditionally skeptical of politicians, especially the presidency.

At seem as if the trust for trump spread once the "alternative media" starter to endorse him. Alex jones, PJW, cernovich,ect. Couldn't these guys be gatekeepers that "flipped" on us?

Here are a few concerns I have with the trump presidency.

  • Trump was financially bailed out by Wilbur Ross, A Rothschild consigliere in 1990, after his failing Taj Mahal project.

When questioned why he helped him, Ross said; "the trump name is still very much a future asset for us"...

How is his Rothschild connection anti establishment in the slightest? Aren't the Rothschilds the evil English banking dynasty?

Also, trump made Ross a cabinet position. Why was this a good move?

http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-wilbur-ross-commerce-20161208-story.html

  • After singing the harms of Wall Street and corrupt bankers, he makes several Goldman Sachs and wealthy billionaires his cabinet members. The point is, he lied to you, turned around, and "got the band back together" so to speak, appointing many of the former bush era cronies in positions of power. Why is this good for us ? Do you trust a Goldman Sachs cabinet? Explain.

https://www.thewealthadvisor.com/trump/goldman-sachs-hogging-trump-cabinet-appointments

  • Why did trump meet in private, and visited the home of known globalist Henry Kissinger? These first 3 alone are fucking incriminating as shit and, reveal to me, a very establishment friendly puppet. Can you explain this? Are you OK with this and why?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/05/16/donald-trump-to-meet-with-henry-kissinger-gops-foreign-policy-eminence-2/

  • Trump often discussed his plan to defeat the "terrorism boogeyman" in ISIS, and often cites his willingness to, as he put it, "bomb the shit out of them and take the oil". Why is he pushing the fake terrorism boogey man to accelerate more illegal war?

Also, why after claiming terrorism was bad, and that Saudi Arabia was a known funder of terrorism (and potential 9/11 involvement), why did he do a multi million dollar arms deal with Them?

https://youtu.be/aWejiXvd-P8

  • You would agree that the CIA is a globalist and evil intelligence agency, correct? Why Is trump saying that the CIA is "great" and "terrific"? Why did he say that he was behind them "1000%"?

https://youtu.be/T4Ej4wXR7cM

  • Why was his Bombing of Syria a strategic move for the betterment of US citizens? Was it not allowed to occur under false pretenses?

Also, after criticizing Obama's policies, how are the continued drone strikes helping make America great again?

  • Finally (I will be editing more, stay tuned), also after criticizing Obama and his waste of taxpayer money to fund vacations and golf trips, is trump already golfing almost every weekend and wasting over $400,000 dollars A DAY for security at the Trump Tower? How are these acceptable to you? Why are you willing them slide.

These questions should be very easy for you to explain, considering your die hard and obsessive support for him as the current POTUS. How do these moves, which many of us consider to be terrible overreaches of power and authoritarianism, benefit our country and help take down TPTB?

http://www.latimes.com/opinion/topoftheticket/la-na-tt-trump-golf-20170327-story.html

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SoldierofLight ago

Great questions. Here's a visual for people to follow along with: https://minutepeople.press/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/1-34.jpg

My father would have chewed off his own arm before ever posing like that with my sister. And there are a LOT of photos like this of Trump and his daughter.

When he makes statements about how we have to leave the Israelis alone, I get nervous. You also named quite a few other reasons why he makes me nervous. I'm still glad he won instead of HRC, but that's not good enough.

ESOTERICshade ago

I'm still glad he won instead of HRC, but that's not good enough.

No kidding. Its like the twilight zone. Its like "hey I have a good idea, the republicans have a new president, lets trust them."

NOPE

SoldierofLight ago

Exactly. One of the ways in which they've successfully dumbed down the human populace is making us believe we only ever have two choices. Sports fan here, but notice how it's always one team against one other team? It's true of almost everything. Spicy or sweet. Good or bad. Up or down. Here or there. Dem or Repub.

We need to collectively remember that reality is constructed from INFINITE choices. In fact, there are infinite realities occurring simultaneously and we are each a part of all of them.

The other thing they've successfully brainwashed the majority of us with is the need for instant gratification. This is why Q is so popular. Not only does he promise instant and complete results, he's telling us he represents The Good Guys (versus the only other team out there which is The Bad Guys) and never mind that he says the NSA are also the good guys because... the paradigm. If Q is a Good Guy and supports the NSA then the NSA must be the good guys too and if Trump is a good guy and is aligned with the Zionists then the Zionists must also be The Good Guys and then, whoa, we're right back where we started.

As you said-- NOPE. That paradigm just doesn't work for me.

ESOTERICshade ago

This is why Q is so popular. Not only does he promise instant and complete results, he's telling us he represents The Good Guys

Q is dopamine hit and more fun than actually fighting against pedophilia. So what if he is in the government? That makes me trust him less, not more.

If Q is a Good Guy and supports the NSA then the NSA must be the good guys too and if Trump is a good guy and is aligned with the Zionists then the Zionists must also be The Good Guys

It has me mystified that so many people have suddenly forgotten about the Zionist agenda. Its like it vanished for some pizzagaters. Puzzles me.

SoldierofLight ago

It has me mystified that so many people have suddenly forgotten about the Zionist agenda. Its like it vanished for some pizzagaters. Puzzles me.

Right? It's like they got a huge hit of scopolomine or something.

ESOTERICshade ago

Right? It's like they got a huge hit of scopolomine or something.

You think there are shills in here pushing this? Seems like there are usernames I wasn't used to seeing that are driving this. I have not been able to decide if its just people that have become interested again that were laying on the sidelines or if its a package deal from the "factory."

SoldierofLight ago

Yeah, I've noticed all the new names too, and a surprisingly large number of them were created around a year ago. It's crossed my mind several times that (((they))) created the profiles back when this subverse first took off and banked them for future use, which seems to be now.

But there's an additional momentum I can't quite source, though the icon is Q. Where is this collective mania coming from re: Q (and Trump)? It's not just middle Americans who recently woke up. I also see SAR survivors and many others falling in step with this as well. And the quotes... You've seen them. "Well, Q confirmed it so it must be true." But who the f is Q??? The thick layers of suppositions built on suppositions make me nauseous.

You've spoken more than once about the power plays going on but few seem able or willing to digest that nugget.

ESOTERICshade ago

"Well, Q confirmed it so it must be true."

I'm glad i'm not the only one that noticed that.

SoldierofLight ago

Nope. Might be just us though, lol.