Relevancy: If we follow the money, we can pretty easily see how billionaire Alwaleed is connected to #pizzagate. He's the second largest shareholder in Twitter. Twitter is known for censuring pizzagate and alt-right thought, even going so far as to manipulate algorithms so that trending topics are sabotaged. Twitter will also begin banning accounts not for what they do on Twitter, but what sites they frequent when not on Twitter! Yes, we will be monitored! Alwaleed is also a large shareholder of Time Warner, CNN: The Fake News Network's parent company! Then there are the donations to THE CLINTON FOUNDATION. He also just happens to own the top five floors of Mandalay Bay where human trafficking perv Stephen Paddock was said to have open fired on a conservative crowd. Also, Saudi Arabia owns the entire block that Besta Pizza is on: https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1464613
This is a follow-up to my previous post on Crown Prince Mohammed Bin Salman and the purge going on in Saudi Arabia. I alerted everyone and suggested that a pact had been made with the POTUS. Don't know if that is true, but the fact American mercenaries were called in seems to indicate some sort of deal. As for the purge, it's getting worse. Alwaleed was hung upside down by his feet to send a message, but a message to who?
Here are the highlights:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5108651/American-mercenaries-torturing-Saudi-princes.html
EXCLUSIVE: 'American mercenaries are torturing' Saudi elite rounded up by new crown prince - and billionaire Prince Alwaleed was hung upside down 'just to send a message'
- Source in Saudi Arabia says American private security contractors are carrying out'interrogations' on princes and billionaires arrested in crackdown
- Detained members of Saudi elite have been hung by their feet and beaten by interrogates, source says
- Among those hung upside down are Prince Alwaleed bin Talal, an investor worth at least $7 billion who is being held at Riyadh's Ritz Carlton
- Arrests were ordered three weeks ago by Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman
- Source claims mercenaries are from 'Blackwater', a claim also made by Lebanese president
- But its successor firm denies it has any operations in Saudi Arabia whatsoever and says its staff abide by U.S. law
- Americans who commit torture abroad can be jailed for up to 20 years
The group of the country's most powerful figures were arrested in a crackdown ordered by Crown Prince Mohammed Bin Salman three weeks ago as he ordered the detention of at least 11 fellow princes and hundreds of businessmen and government officials over claims of corruption.
Just last month, the Crown Prince vowed to restore 'moderate, open Islam' in the kingdom and relaxed a number of its ultra-conservative rules, including lifting a ban on women driving.
DailyMail.com can disclose that the arrests have been followed by 'interrogations' which a source said were being carried out by 'American mercenaries' brought in to work for the 32-year-old crown prince, who is now the kingdom's most powerful figure.
'They are beating them, torturing them, slapping them, insulting them. They want to break them down,' the source told DailyMail.com.
'Blackwater' has been named by DailyMail.com's source as the firm involved, and the claim of its presence in Saudi Arabia has also been made on Arabic social media, and by Lebanon's president.
'They've transferred all the guys from Abu Dhabi. Now they are in charge of everything,' said the source.
The source said that Salman, often referred to by his initials MBS, is conducting some of the interrogations himself.
'When it's something big he asks them questions,' the source said.
'He speaks to them very nicely in the interrogation, and then he leaves the room, and the mercenaries go in. The prisoners are slapped, insulted, hung up, tortured.'
So a huge shake-up is going on over there. MBS is after something and until he finds out what it is, this most definitely will continue. And while the article states that he wants to:
uncover an alleged network of foreign officials who have taken bribes from Saudi princes.
Is this network the human trafficking network? I feel strongly it is. Human trafficking takes in billions of dollars a year, and anything that profitable is sure to be at the top of the list. If there were dalliances and more formal contracts, I'm wondering the names of those complicit. Definitely keep your eyes on this because this is going to get hotter.
https://imgur.com/a/WSjc6
Shillaxe ago
Bin Talal has dumped 1.5 bn of FOX stock, has the 4 Seasons Lebanon for sale $110 mn & now NY Plaza Hotel too...
Shizy ago
Do you have a job? A family? A boyfriend? A dog or even a fish?
ESOTERICshade ago
This is interesting because Soros is Hungarian. Hungary flatly resisted open borders and immigration by building a fence to ward off Soro's immigration flood. If this is true our State Department is going to attempt to take out Orban who was against the immigration. Not sure what is really going on here behind the scenes though.
sunajAeon ago
Americans involved in torture abroad should be arrested and EXECUTED
migratorypatterns ago
If they're involved without the foreign government's permission and approval they would be arrested. If you read the article, it states the number of years they're facing if convicted of doing this without a country's express wish.
sunajAeon ago
An American citizen has no cover from legal consequences for going abroad and torturing/killing people-these are international crimes despite this pathological faction running the government
fogdryer ago
You cannot be a prince and try to overthrow the gov and get away with it They don’t care about kids, it’s their culture, child rape. They care about the money, betrayal
Shillaxe ago
Bin Talals Kingdom Holding Company just dumped $1.5 billion of FOX stock....
ESOTERICshade ago
Here we go. Its on....We even have a new Hitler.
DeathToMasonsASAP ago
Yes
ESOTERICshade ago
If this is all true this is a massive cash grab that will number in the upper hundreds of billions of dollars. If this is true they are taking shares in Aramco, the Saud family oil company, which is the largest oil IPO in the world when it hits the market. Also taking their cash and tangible assets that can be liquidated.
One rival faction of the family stole the throne from the legit heir, the grandson of King Saud if I am interpreting all this correctly.
Since BBC has supposedly been allowed access this spectacle will be used later for some big purpose because they will not let this drama go to waste. I think it is possible that the entire blame for 911 might be blamed on this isolated group of people in the future but it remains to be seen.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-11-23/new-footage-inside-riyadh-ritz-carlton-reveals-princes-swapping-assets-freedom
Shillaxe ago
Not just 100's of millions, now seizing assets AND oil, $2 + trillion .
ESOTERICshade ago
Bingo. If I said millions I meant Billions. And Aramco oil will be a two trillion dollar IPO. This is one of the biggest thefts in history going on in the Saudi family and we can bet our bottom dollar that the Trump administration is neck deep in preferred Aramco shares and this is why the "bad saudis" rubbish is being pushed. Our government officials are getting filthy rich by causing regime change in Saudia Arabia.
Shillaxe ago
You said billions , all i see are blurs anymore, what the thieves haven't figured out is .... shutting Talal down means the payoffs stop and people start talking when that happens, this is going to be a major shit storm.
ESOTERICshade ago
Puts a whole new twist on "Calm Before The Storm" eh?
Shillaxe ago
Not just SA but Qatar has been blockated , Lebanon's Hariri abducted , 7 million + being murdered in Yemen. ..
ESOTERICshade ago
Didn't know that. That was a Clinton stronghold. What is your tl;dr on that? Just another move to strip the Clinton/Bush cabal of that piece of the pie?
I guess the best outcome of this would be if the new gangster faction, Kushner/Trump knocks out the pedosatanic blood drinking faction. That way we would just be left with regular old gangsters that don't fuck kids and drink their blood.
Shillaxe ago
Trump protects bloodline , he's at war with the competition, you can pretend to like him for your jobs sake but don't be fooled.
ESOTERICshade ago
And considering what we are discovering it looks like the Kushner/Trump faction stepped in front of the Clinton/Bush faction and stole their share of the coming 2 Trillion dollar IPO that will take place, and will get some of the confiscated wealth of the arrested Saudis.
Of course I am just guessing here but if I were a Kushner gangster that is exactly what I would do. And Kushner, personally, went to Saudia Arabia not too long ago and so did Trump.
The picture is getting clearer. And in comes Q to leave the impression that the Trump administration is wiping out the NWO, Rothschild banking, Soros, etc....
Soros just transferred 11 billion dollars in what some people are calling a massive tax dodge. There is some serious stuff going on but I do not understand it all yet, but we will as time passes.
markrod420 ago
Well they brought in corrupt american mercenaries to torture their corrupt business men for information... something tells me these men will die during interrogation without "telling" anything. At least the ones that are willing to talk will.
migratorypatterns ago
I'm not sure what will happen.
I'm decidedly not "for" torture, but I don't know exactly what's being done or why so it's hard for me to get as upset as I should ... if I should. I don't know what they're suspected of doing which makes trying to guess why the torture is being meted out dicey ... to say the least.
Shillaxe ago
My guess is Talal has dirt on ALOT of US politicians, he owns the entire street CP (pun intended ?) Comet Pizza , he was a key player in exporting white children.
markrod420 ago
I just know that if ur trying to root out some globalist corruption ring, which is what many are hoping is happening, hiring american mercenaries probably isnt the way to get it done.
migratorypatterns ago
True. But they would be able to perform the task at hand. The mercenaries are not going to do anything more than what they're hired to do.
markrod420 ago
Yeah. Hired by the american govt to pretend to be hired by the saudi govt.
Lovethelight ago
What kind of person is a torturer? Seriously depraved business and produces unreliable 'confessions' sad.
migratorypatterns ago
What kind of person is a terrorist that was involved with 9/111 and human trafficking? Seriously depraved.
Shizy ago
This is a prime example of why people troll you! You are incapable of engaging in dialogue or seeing anyone else's point of view. Why don't you strengthen your argument if someone doesn't agree with you instead of using these childish tactics?
dreamwarrior23 ago
Shills are all over this thread. That's how you know this SA deal is serious business that's going to expose everything.
davemcgowanwasright ago
I have never seen a thread here shilled this much.
migratorypatterns ago
Exactly.
And this is the second time it's happened so they're making our job easy. They're calling out what's important and this is important.
Shizy ago
No, many of the people you label "shills" are simply people who you were a totally dick to and threw a temper tantrum when they didn't agree with you on something or called out a weak point you made. As a result of your inability to have a dialogue or back up your point you cried "shill" and blocked them. Now it's just fun to troll your lame Crybaby ass!!!
DeathToMasonsASAP ago
More evidence of what a complete scumbag Trump is. He endorses the illegal extrajudicial detainment and torture of Saudi nationals at the hands of American mercenaries at the behest of the Saudi strongman prince. Qoute "Some of those they are harshly treating have been milking their country for years!" ....More evidence that the cabal wants you to think Trump is their enemy while he carries out their agenda of war, illegal criminal international behavior and serveilance state conduct. He has been in lock step with the cabal he is a part of yet the Trump vs the Deep state psyop continues to fool even many in here. On top of that they have effectively fooled the truth community into thinking revelations of DC and Hollywood crude behavior is akin to taking down Pizzagate. Their game always works on most of you because your need to feel good about how things are and your need to have hope. Because of that, you do nothing and wait for the cabal to shut itself down from within. Never going to happen. No children are being saved as we speak. Defund the banks if you want to make a start. Or continue posting how "Breaking, it's starting".
migratorypatterns ago
Not sure what your point is.
Are you forgetting that Alwaleed has connections to 9/11 and that he made a fortune off the terrorist attack? He also has ties to human trafficking.
Trump has been forthright in stating he'd like terrorists and pedos/human traffickers (and some would argue pedo/human traffickers are terrorists and one in the same) to Gitmo which means that he approves of some methods of physicality for certain crimes. This has not been a secret. And many align themselves with this type of stance. So these elite aren't being tortured because they didn't pay their taxes. There's something much more insidious being rooted out.
DeathToMasonsASAP ago
The Saudis did not do 9/11, Mossad and the CIA did it and Trump is friends with and endorses several 9/11 criminals like Silverstein and Giuliani. Who are you kidding? the Saudis? Did you get that from Michael Moore's limited hangout movie? They had a finnancial role but Trump is not for punishing those responsible for 9/11. This forum is limited hangout central. You guys are either new or intentionaly misleading. If Trump wants to get the terroist he shoudl arrest the CIA and declare war on Israel unless they turn over their Mossad agents. Your rediculous story is just that.
migratorypatterns ago
You can't even read correctly and you profess to know who was behind the terrorist attack?
I said Alwaleed PROFITED from 9./11. PROFITED. If he profited he was connected.
And you're using someone else's name and been here three days shilling?
Yeah, you're blocked.
DeathToMasonsASAP ago
YOU make no sense. Why would you torture somebody profitting from it instead of those doing it? See how pointless your observations are? Trump ignores those doing it and thinks it is good to punish those "profitting" from it? Keep your promisse about blocking me, my IQ drops every time I read your post.
eucalyptus_spearmint ago
The link actually says Trump agrees with the arrests. Didn't say he agreed with the torture. Just saying. 😏
DeathToMasonsASAP ago
"Some of those they are harshly treating have been milking their country for years!" That implies that he thinks it is deserved. Quit trying to defend him at every turn. He is one of the most blatant cabal members we have ever put in the white House. Jesuit, buddies with 9/11 criminals, blames Saudis, business connections with Mossad, CIA and NY MOB, tied to the Rockefellers, NYC billionaire, Epstein buddy who spent time on pedo island, allowed one of his female staff from Mar a Lago to be recruited by Epsetein, Son in Law is an occultist who owns the 666 buidling where Lucent tech makes the RFD chip in the wrist for the NWO agenda, long time Clinton buddy and admirer, became president. At this point I can only assume the accounts in here sellling us Trump are disinfo. There really is no other conclusion. This place is infested with shills.
eucalyptus_spearmint ago
I don't know if any of that is true. I do know he flew on the Epstein plane ONCE. Maybe once was all it took to show him what a bad guy that was. Maybe he wanted to see for himself if the rumors were true? As for the rest, don't know. What I do know is you've been screeching about Trump for a pretty long time. We had one other choice for POTUS if you recall. Trump ain't perfection but he's definitely better than her. And I think he's doing a stand up job considering all the roadblocks in his way. SO...I'll support him (or whomever) I want. Stop telling me what to do. 😏
DeathToMasonsASAP ago
"Maybe he wanted to see for himself if the rumors were true?" ..............Are you a retard?...don't answer. you are blacklisted for your stupidity.
eucalyptus_spearmint ago
...like that's a punishment. 😂
sjwdisabler ago
Does anyone else feel incredibly good about this?
Vindicator ago
That is the most logical reason Americans are involved in the interrogations -- if the story isn't BS.
SmokeCigarettes ago
It's beginning...
thebearfromstartrack ago
That would be BAD if you are correct. You've reported t this to all major news media outlets right? What, specifically do you want me to do? Fatty?. I have limited (but vast) resources.
migratorypatterns ago
I reported this? I'm lost. Who is this comment directed at?
thebearfromstartrack ago
You? I'm just following up. it seemed urgent. SO...I followed up, as is my nature. I imagine you DID report this, but what, specifically do YOU want ME to do. You see, I have a particular set of skills, and I am NOT sure how we connected, but I know that if you have been connected with me, it's something I HAVE to look into. K? Fatty.
Weresma-Cuntrygone ago
Huge if true New to voat how do I upload pics I'm an anti pedo campaigner iv tracked numerous pedo symbols which I process into memes We all gotta come together to stop these degenerates Help or find me on twitter or gab @SocialistCancer
migratorypatterns ago
Upload on Imgur, post links on Voat.
Vindicator ago
Only if you want to get trolled. Imgur is owned by Reddit and is very frowned upon by the goat flock.
migratorypatterns ago
First I'm hearing of this. All the Voat posts that have pics use Imgur, so if we're not supposed to use Imgur, what are we supposed to use?
ESOTERICshade ago
Upload them to catbox.moe. It will give you a link. Post the link here in the threads you want to post them to.
Flat_Truth ago
"They have taken them away so nobody can see what they are doing"... then detailed report with no reference describing what they are doing? Did a miss a step in logic somewhere in the "news story"?
migratorypatterns ago
Yeah, I don't see where the news is building a case against Saudi Arabia. Just a news story.
SterlingJB ago
Q or no Q, the Saudi situation is weird. A Saudi friend of mine, who's on the liberal side of things, said that basically KSA flipped from being a horizontal monarchy to vertical monarchy over night. He also said that all of KSA's many plays, like yemen and syria, that haven't paid out has taken a toll, more than their gov is letting on, and that there's a lot of talk about a hot war with Iran filtering down to what they consider to be the middle class. Also, since you're getting flack for Blackwater being disbanded, maybe post the firm's new name, Academi. https://www.academi.com/
migratorypatterns ago
UpVoat for you.
Is there flack? It must be from all the shill accounts I have blocked so the comments don't filter back to me. I don't know why they all go crazy when I post about this situation. It's like they're under rocks sleeping and KERPOW!!! Then they're here doing their best to give their version of pushback.
The fact is that this situation is crazy weird. I'm so happy that you provided validation through an anecdotal report. I feel reporting on it and being wrong is less egregious than say nothing about it because we don't know precisely what's happening. And you're mentioning Q. I don't follow him/her so don't follow what's said. Perhaps that's why people are going covfefe over this. In any event, thanks for the info and I will post on this again. Hopefully, there'll be more info.
Shizy ago
To you fucktard a "shill" is anyone who has ever questioned, disagreed, or doubted your self absorbed all knowing bulllshit! Before you throw around "shill", why don't you let everyone know exactly how many people you have blocked. I guarantee Its more posters than anyone on voat because you can't handle a challenge!
ESOTERICshade ago
You hit the nail on the head.
NASAdisgruntled ago
Proof That Steven Spielberg is a Child Molester (Part One) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqmX2zQf4PM Proof That Steven Spielberg is a Child Molester (Part Two) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlXZG2YLrmU Proof That Steven Spielberg is a Child Molester (Part Three) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXgzeqZHofY
[–] MrFarr 0 points (+0|-0) 6 months ago
Does he collect the illustrations of Norman Rockwell, such as the one showing a young boy in his underwear examined by a doctor?
Who Is The Fox King? https://www.pinterest.co.uk/gbotkins/who-is-the-fox-king/
@Oh_Well_ian @zevrem @DonKeydich @Sterlingjb
migratorypatterns ago
Hey, thanks. Will check it out.
GreenDell144 ago
If this were real, all that Americans would have to is cross a line that Muslims wouldn't. Perhaps something homosexual, and make video of it. I imagine that a Muslim torturer might not go there, and a victim in a high position would likely capitulate.
BlueEyedDevil64 ago
Total bullshit story
new4now ago
Blackwater is dirty with ties to DynCorp
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Academi
In July 2004, Blackwater was hired by the U.S. State Department under the Bureau of Diplomatic Security's Worldwide Personal Protective Services (WPPS) umbrella contract, along with DynCorp International and Triple Canopy, Inc. for protective services in Iraq, Afghanistan, Bosnia, and Israel.[25] The contract applied for two years and expired on June 6, 2006. It authorized 482 personnel, and Blackwater received $488m for its work.
In May 2006, the U.S. State Department awarded WPPS II, the successor to its previous diplomatic security contract.[26] Under this contract, the State Department awarded Blackwater, along with Triple Canopy and DynCorp, a contract for diplomatic security in Iraq.
Nisour Square massacre https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nisour_Square_massacre
The 20th 9/11 Hijacker Had Blackwater’s Number In His Notebook http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2015/05/the-20th-911-hijacker-had-blackwaters-number-in-his-notebook.html
After the September 11 attacks, Cofer Black, the former head of counter terrorism at the CIA, requested that the federal government hire more contractors to operate overseas. Eventually, the CIA realized that a large number of civilian contractors would be needed overseas to accomplish its broad goals. The federal government turned to Blackwater for assistance
Academi's primary public contract is from the U.S. State Department under the Bureau of Diplomatic Security's Worldwide Personal Protective Services (WPPS) and WPPS II umbrella contracts, along with DynCorp International and Triple Canopy, Inc., for protective services in Iraq, Afghanistan, Bosnia, and Israel
Greystone Limited/Academi/Xe/Blackwater CIA/JSOC (black operations worldwide, false flags, training of insurgent forces)
CIA FRONT COMPANIES http://jar2.com/2/Intel/CIA/CIA%20Fronts.htm
Good stuff in that last link, Could come in handy :)
FuckYourSafespace ago
My old man said that DynCorp had some pretty heavy allegations against them back in the day. I dont remember and I dont want to speculate, but do you know of any off hand? They may tie in to all this.
ESOTERICshade ago
The pizzagate put DynCorp squarely in the middle of the child trafficking business in dozens of ways. I don't even remember all the ties that were found but the ties were numerous. DynCorp also got busted for trafficking but all they got was a slap on the wrist.
new4now ago
http://pizzagate.wiki/DynCorp
even I haven't seen this link, lol, I have to look this over myself
it's a start, don't think everything here
migratorypatterns ago
According to @SterlingJB, Blackwater is now Academi. Here's the link:
https://www.academi.com/
And they're mercenaries! Naturally, they're dirty, dirty, dirty!!!! Who the hell would think that people you hire to torture enemies aren't nice people? So I'm sure they're horrible. No convincing needed.
new4now ago
there was another name change
2010–2014: Academi[edit] In 2010, a group of private investors purchased Xe's North Carolina training facility and built Academi, a new company, around it. Academi's Board of Directors included former Attorney General John Ashcroft, former White House Counsel and Vice Presidential Chief of Staff Jack Quinn, retired Admiral and former NSA Director Bobby Ray Inman,[48] and Texas businessman Red McCombs, who served as Chairman of the Board.[49] Quinn and Ashcroft were independent directors, without other affiliations to Academi.[50]
In May 2011, Academi named Ted Wright as CEO.[51] Wright hired Suzanne Rich Folsom as Academi's chief regulatory and compliance officer and deputy general counsel.[52] The Academi Regulatory and Compliance team won National Law Journal's 2012 Corporate Compliance Office of the Year Award.[53]
In 2012, retired Brigadier General Craig Nixon was named the new CEO of Academi.[54]
2014–present: Constellis Holdings[edit]
A merger between Triple Canopy and Academi, along with other companies that were part of the Constellis Group package, are now all gathered under the Constellis Holdings, Inc. umbrella.[10] The transaction brings together an array of security companies including Triple Canopy, Constellis Ltd., Strategic Social, Tidewater Global Services, National Strategic Protective Services, ACADEMI Training Center and International Development Solutions.[11]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Academi
migratorypatterns ago
Damn, it's hard to keep up with all the name changes.
Thanks for this.
new4now ago
I think they do it to try to distance themselves from charges and bad press
Maybe bankruptcy too
Was surprise myself there were 4 different names
They are government subcontractors that hide behind military secret missions so we can't speak of it
migratorypatterns ago
All good points.
Hope they're working on the side of right here.
new4now ago
Well the one good thing is that they do what they are hired to do
Just think it strange that this is same people who trained the Saudi's guard
So much b.s. in the news
The supermarket rag magazines have more truth in them
migratorypatterns ago
Probably true. But something must be going on. When this started happening, the Lebanese Prime Minister was thought to be being held hostage in Saudi Arabia. He was going to resign, but after returning to Lebanon, oh, guess what? He changed his mind. Was it MBS that changed it for him?
new4now ago
The Saudi's want leaders they can manage
The US caters to them in this
Iraq, Libya, they tried for Syria, but Russia said hell no
That's what they are doing in Yemen
Damn Game of Thrones, and the people suffer
migratorypatterns ago
Damn Game of Thrones, and the people suffer
Yes, very sad. Saw this horrible torture of this little boy for extortion money.
new4now ago
Makes me cry
There are good people, bad people, then there's the ugly
Nasty asses need to be put down like a rabid animal
ESOTERICshade ago
The voice of reason speaks.
new4now ago
I also think The Saudi's used Blackwater, will use name as article has, to train it's National Guards and to go into Yeman
new4now ago
most here been at it for awhile
easy to forget what has all came up
lost all my info on an windows update, so when I get a niggle, I look it up lol
I remember, but not specifics, plus everyone likes links lol
ESOTERICshade ago
I despise windows update. I learned how to trick it into not updating and it is super easy. All you have to do is set your internet connection to a "metered connection." That is the setting people would normally use if they were on a data plan and didn't want anything hogging up their data plan and costing money. It will not throttle your data or your speed at all. Windows just thinks you are on a paid data plan connection and won't update while it is set that way.
new4now ago
I was always clicking the first page, then screwing up second page so it wouldn't go through
got sick of it and hit update, funny thing though, I didn't lose my chrome keepers, just my google keeps
its alright, probably the only way I would clear my favs, I already filling it back up with other stuff lol
thebearfromstartrack ago
WTF? How is this our business? Oh...oil...greed...it's a thing that doesn't concern us.
ESOTERICshade ago
naaa bra, according to Q this is the end of the NWO, which means NATO, and the global banking system. Its happening. /sarc Somebody is pushing this agenda and it came with shills that are aggressive as hell if you try to point out that its business as usual outside the Q bubble.
thebearfromstartrack ago
So how does a nobody just like me stop anybody who has WAY more plans than I have?
ESOTERICshade ago
We used to fight against pedophilia. Now they have us fighing the entire world NWO system. I could not have devised a more clever psyop myself to distract people from pedophilia. At least with pedophilia we had a specific goal and were creating awareness. Now our message is lost in a blizzard of global politics and "Al Franken pretended to touch a woman's boobs."
huhWHAThuh ago
This concerns me on a couple of levels. First Is the well known tactic of our lovely overlords of introducing barbaric behaviors against those they have demonized, i.e. those dirty vicious Arabs, and then when it suits them flip it as a normalized behavior to be used against the American public. If people remember the DHS listings of characteristics to look for and be suspicious of in a terrorist were things like: people who talk about the Constitution, or people who have Ron Paul bumper stickers, etc. The other odd misfit element is wondering what middle eastern country could possibly need to import interrogators to torture their prisoners? They have been at that for millennia. Nobody needs to teach them about the procedure. Call me a conspiracy theorist, but this whole thing doesn't smell right to me.
eucalyptus_spearmint ago
Agreed. And while it is tempting to descend into violent fantasies of torturing child molestors in the name of justice, I don't think it is ultimately good for our own humanity. I'm guilty of it myself. Especially after I've just read some harrowing account of what happened to a victim or something. But I definitely don't support institutionalized torture beyond what is necessary to make someone divulge info needed to save lives. And don't we have softer methods for that, like drugs? Anyway...it is odd. And I didn't know that about the DHS! That's CRAZY!
huhWHAThuh ago
One i remember was the 2009 MIAC report: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/03/23/fusion-centers-expand-criteria-identify-militia-members.html There were actually others leaked to the alt media that were even more absurd than that. And my imagination gets really worked up thinking about what would be a just punishment for child molesters too. But that needs to be tempered with the reality of how dangerous it would be allowing that kind of power to be given to govt. They are already allotting themselves constitutional powers that don't exist based on reasons that are total fiction.
eucalyptus_spearmint ago
I'm in complete agreement. Very troubling stuff.
rarepeeks ago
I'm with you.
ESOTERICshade ago
Prince Alwaleed Talal, the arrested prince, is most certainly a bad dude just like soon to be new king Crown Prince Salman is. They are all depraved.
Alwaleed Talal, the guy that got arrested seems to have ties to Clinton or that is the word. If so i'm glad they arrested him.
Seemingly the Twitter crackdown on free speech is not his doings though because he has just been neutered. I guess he could still have enough pull for this to be some type of revenge but I doubt he is anything but scared as hell and hoping to keep some of his money at this point.
dozer_ ago
Pretty good news.
NASAdisgruntled ago
@thebearfromstartrack @Shillaxe @GreenDell144 @kevdude @2impendingdoom Proof That Steven Spielberg is a Child Molester (Part One) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqmX2zQf4PM Proof That Steven Spielberg is a Child Molester (Part Two) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlXZG2YLrmU Proof That Steven Spielberg is a Child Molester (Part Three) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXgzeqZHofY
thebearfromstartrack ago
Everyone's against me.
NASAdisgruntled ago
Grow a pair then
thebearfromstartrack ago
Can you get me to Uranus?
NASAdisgruntled ago
That is not even witty.
thebearfromstartrack ago
Not yet. Perhaps in the future.
NASAdisgruntled ago
Perhaps in the future, everything will be amusing.
thebearfromstartrack ago
It WILL because I will be in charge.
2impendingdoom ago
just read this on zerohedge, so it must be true. awesome.
migratorypatterns ago
Ha! Absolutely!
DonKeydich ago
The notion that Americans can out-torture ARAB SECRET SERVICE is hysterically funny
boughdoy ago
And proves how little you know.
GeorgeT ago
Being a woman in Saudi Arabia would be considered torture in the western world, now imagine actual torture in SA, makes Hostel franchize look like a boy scout exercise.
DeathToMasonsASAP ago
The notion that Americans aren't behind torture world wide is funnier. The notion that Americans didn't arm and train terrorist is hillarious. The notion that Trump is a white hat is hysterical. How is the pizzagate investigation going? I heard the CIA was arrested. I heard the marines were securing our freedoms in the name of loyalty to Trump. You hear a lot of stupid bullshit. You aren't supposed to beleive it.
Oh_Well_ian ago
Blackwater ceased operations in 2010
this post is worthless
WhyAserverWasBuilt ago
They just renamed themselves XE. They never missed a day of work! (Torture!). Your knowledge of military contractors is worthless. Look up Blackwater now EX.
Oh_Well_ian ago
I realize that...You think the Daily Mail would have got that straight.
GeorgeT ago
Eric Prince, founder of Blackwater, is Betsy Devos' brother. Devos is a secretary of Education. Eric Prince was the guy who gave a radio interview detailing NYPD findings on Weiner's laptop - and why Comey was forced to reopen Hillary case - costing her the election. Did Trump hire Devos because of it? A 3D chess move? Remember Trump's tweet Oct8, 2012. Donald will not get child rapists & murderers get away. The Podesta Group is dissolving, 6000+ Pedophile arrests so far. Let's have some faith in POTUS - and I am as cynical as they come.
FuckYourSafespace ago
They are academi now, under constellus group, along side several others. Seems they consolidated, probably have/had legal protections for a bunch of stuff. I'm still unsure about the loyalties of the mercs themselves and the leadership that may be along.
new4now ago
they just changed their name, 3x after Blackwater
DalesDead-Bug ago
Last I recall, they named themselves XE Services.
new4now ago
guess they have another
2014–present: Constellis Holdings[edit] A merger between Triple Canopy and Academi, along with other companies that were part of the Constellis Group package, are now all gathered under the Constellis Holdings, Inc. umbrella.[10] The transaction brings together an array of security companies including Triple Canopy, Constellis Ltd., Strategic Social, Tidewater Global Services, National Strategic Protective Services, ACADEMI Training Center and International Development Solutions.[11]
RoBatten ago
It's difficult to keep up . . .
AgainstPedos ago
Supposedly ceased operations? Even if they did officially dissolve, they were clearly replaced.
This Saudi Prince along with Bill Gates also owned the Four Seasons.
Listening to Abel Danger Field McConnell & his guests I've come to a very different conclusion re the names (yes, plural) of the shooters. Also there were many other motivations for 10/1 Vegas as well, including "Death Pool Betting."
ESOTERICshade ago
I would like to listen to that particular Abel Danger. You have a link?
zevrem ago
srayzie ago
We both know why you say that 🐪
SterlingJB ago
KSA outsourcing for torturers really is a mindboggling concept.
FuckYourSafespace ago
Can we prolong the victim's life better than they can? I'm a little confused as to why they would bring in US mercs.
zeroinstinct ago
The US will have intel they don't want to share.
FuckYourSafespace ago
Ah, got ya. Thanks.
SterlingJB ago
They're saying, or the unnamed source is saying, it's because the don't want local guys that are loyal to the ousted princes.
FuckYourSafespace ago
I see that. It make sense, they would probably put on an act then make an escape attempt. I don't delve into sources much yet, do you know if they are legit?
SterlingJB ago
Don't know. It's the Daily Mail and an anonymous source saying stuff that Academ-i-a/Blackwater refutes. Way more legit than say a yournewswire tho.
Shillaxe ago
Welcome to the United Saudi States of Arabiamerica, daggers vs machine guns, I think Trump is trying to steal 100's of billions.
migratorypatterns ago
You know, whenever I post about this subject, shills come out of the woodwork.
I'm going to post more.
ESOTERICshade ago
Why would you post this in a sub about pedophilia anyway? Because Q said our government is taking down an entire global banking system, NATO, and an entire occult structure?
The heir to the throne just got shoved aside by an aggressive young Prince who cut a deal with the Trump administration to finish off Yemen and Iran and that is what this is all about. Who just did a huge weapons deal with the Saudis not too long ago? Trump did, that is who. Wonder what that was all about?
You don't think Trump sold billions of dollars to the Saudis to they can continue to kill children in Yemen and next Iran do you? This whole Q miasma of horseshit is a distraction to the subject of pedophilia and i'm not so sure it was an accident.
Who in their right mind would suddenly believe some "Q" from 4chan that suddenly "Its Happening!"???
Shillaxe ago
Im not sayin bin Talal is innocent, at least he had a legit claim being grandson of King Saud, Salman is a joke with no claim & an obvious plant .The reason mercs were called in is because the old regime isnt going down easy, a kings son has never ascended an alot of rich Sheiks want to slice his throat.
ESOTERICshade ago
That is true. See my comment above. Hard to point out potential double psyops around here without being called a shill.
Onlio ago
This seems like this is a wish by someone who has watched too many movies. You know like how lefties think the world has a plot line like a movie. I doubt this is happening
DeathToMasonsASAP ago
Explain why Trump is qouted for saying it is good they are being tortured? Nice try.
NASAdisgruntled ago
@Onlio Proof That Steven Spielberg is a Child Molester (Part One) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqmX2zQf4PM Proof That Steven Spielberg is a Child Molester (Part Two) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlXZG2YLrmU Proof That Steven Spielberg is a Child Molester (Part Three) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXgzeqZHofY
pizzagate
carmencita ago
Keep posting. It. The truth must be told.
fogdryer ago
I read that Spielberg was a molester. I did not watch the videos is it true
carmencita ago
I cannot prove it with undying proof but when you readwhat happened to Heather O,Rourke. It is hard to say he is not. Then there was an animated character that looked like Spielberg raping a disabled child. I strongly believe he is a pedophile. If you look up Heather you may come to the same conclusion.
KekistanEmperor ago
I clicked. I'm likely going to regret it.
FuckYourSafespace ago
He's been spamming, trying to derail. What was it?
migratorypatterns ago
Doubt what is happening? The purge and the torture? Or how I'm interpreting it?
I wanted the news disseminated. No matter what the reason, this story is huge. This is a complete shake-up. So take it for what it is. MBS is clear he wants Saudi Arabia to be moderate. By the process of elimination, were these elites against that goal? Or were they working counter to it by participating in activities that could no longer be deemed "moderate"?
Like I said, take it for what it is and put your own spin on it if you don't agree with mine.
DeathToMasonsASAP ago
Trump is admitting they are being tortured and says he agrees with it. Why do you ignore this?
Onlio ago
I have read this account from several different sources. I don't doubt that this story is being pushed as true. It certainly sounds very real, if we were in a movie. That isn't your spin on it, that is the way it's being reported. It seems as if someone who watches a lot of movies made this up. During the Obama administration there were lots of stories that always seemed to be more movie based than reality based. If you were to google "Obama administration" and "west wing television show" you would see that a lot of things that he did and how he spoke about things were directly lifted from the television show West wing. I think that when the powers that be want to send out a message, they use words and images that they think people will understand. I think the powers that be watch a lot of movies
migratorypatterns ago
Glad I asked. I get what you're saying now.
I see where it could be viewed that way, but art sometimes imitates life soooo ... not sure with this one. It seems more real than a false narrative, but I've been fooled before.
rarepeeks ago
Why should we believe anything he says? His whole family are a tribe of degenerate women beaters who became completely depraved by access to more money than they can spend.
And zerohedge is reporting that they are negotiating to let the arrested Princes go if they give up 70% of their wealth which is hundreds of billions of dollars. That sounds like a power play.
The King's seat is up for grabs because the old King is too old to hang on to it. The young Prince's are jockeying for power positions.
Makes more sense to me to believe this is a power struggle than to believe "the good Saudis' suddenly shook off their conditioning and upbringing as degenerates with privilege who treat women like disposable play toys and like complete shit.
Oh_Well_ian ago
Blackwater shut down ops in 2010 ..
that kinda fucks up your post
Shizy ago
Since @migratorypatterns isn't responding to you I'm assuming you must be blocked since princess can't handle anyone rebuking her far reaching nonsense ideas
DeathToMasonsASAP ago
Yeah I heard the illuminatie shut down to. In reality they were rebranded Council on Foreign Relations. You guys have an agenda and can't beleive this because it proves what a scumbag Trump is. Yet his tweet that you ignore has him aproving of the torture and saying they deserve it.
RoBatten ago
They just "rebranded"
ArmedExorcist ago
Any thread starting with "HUGE, MASSIVE... = stop reading and an automatic downvote.
RonBennington ago
The exact reason why I stopped reading this sub.
ESOTERICshade ago
I seem to gather enemies by always considering both sides of a potential psyop too but you are correct because this may not be HUGE at all. It may be psyop.
In my opinon there may be an effort to blame the "bad Saudis" for the Saudi role in 911 and let U.S., British intelligence, and Mossad skate to freedom. Oh, and the "good Saudis" get to go free too.
The Prince's that are left are not "the good Princes" either.
This could also just be a psyop and a fake news story to make the world believe that the "bad Saudis" have been caught. There may not be any beatings at all happening. Would not surprise me.
KekistanEmperor ago
Thanks for the most likely truth. We live in the Matrix.
migratorypatterns ago
I feel the same way about shills.
It's why you/re blocked.
AvariciousNose ago
Can you take criticism or will you be ignorant? A lot of people do not appreciate their feed being in caps lock with clickbait titles. Since Voat has a smarter community, we upvoat quality and non-clickbait more often. Please don't just call someone out for being a shill when it's criticism that can help you spread pizzagate.
eucalyptus_spearmint ago
Amen! 👏
migratorypatterns ago
ANOTHER FUCKING SHILL?
ANOTHER BLOCK.
SHILLS GOTTA SHILL!!!!
Shizy ago
Could you be any more of an out of touch cry baby? GET OVER YOURSELF!
eucalyptus_spearmint ago
He's not being a shill, migratory. You're out of line. Seriously.
AvariciousNose ago
I don't know how to get through to you. You have to take the steps to at least listen and receive feedback. Intelligent people will refute arguments and not use ad hominem
srayzie ago
Blocked from you? 🧐
migratorypatterns ago
I know that he received a good windfall of money from 9/11.
Would be fantastic if MBS gets who the real culprits behind that attack were.
derram ago
https://archive.fo/0474V :
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Bluebirdsolitud2 ago
This must be something big regarding American security and trying to extract info beforehand. I can't imagine any other reason that Americans would be involved. Interesting.
NASAdisgruntled ago
Proof That Steven Spielberg is a Child Molester (Part One) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqmX2zQf4PM Proof That Steven Spielberg is a Child Molester (Part Two) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlXZG2YLrmU Proof That Steven Spielberg is a Child Molester (Part Three) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXgzeqZHofY
pizzagate
eucalyptus_spearmint ago
Wth did I just watch? That was dumb. And the first link was completely innocent and innocuous. The other two weren't proof either! Downvoat for ya.
migratorypatterns ago
Yes, I was thinking the same thing. Otherwise, why American mecenaries? It wouldn't make any sense. Especially if it only had to do with Saudi Arabia. I mean, what would happen if one of the elite talked while a mercenary was torturing him and the mercenary learned Saudi Arabia intel? Wouldn't they have to get rid of the mercenary also? No, the only way it makes sense is if what he was extracting also had to do with American concerns.