I BET there are ZERO kids involved from conservative families. ALL are the spawn of "liberal" parasites (single moms, welfare, etc). Right? It's called CONSEQUENCES people. Liberal policies spawn all manner of horrific downstream consequences.
Did you LOOK at the message chain? Which exists. I AM "thebearfromstartrack". Is that whom you are attempting to speak with? Is this Reese WItherspoon? Would you PLEASE stop bugging me? It was ONE kiss. I know you were happy and seeing skyrockets and shit, but you are WAY too stupid and stinky for someone like me.
Conservative isn't necessarily the same as rich elite oligarchy families. And some of those, the kids can end up pretty messed up. I've met a fair share and there very often suicides and drug addicts among them. For example, Anderson (Vanderbilt) Cooper's brother threw himself out a window for reasons I don't know. I'm not suggesting we be lenient to criminals but I'm thinking that criminals or evil people sometimes hurt the people closest to them the most.
There are CRIMINAL rich people. THey are NOT conservatives, though they might WEAR that (affectation) like a sheep costume (Hillary/Bill Clinton). Evil is ALWAYS disquised. Obama isn't even a nigger, he just LOOKS like one.
I'm absolutely certain that a lot of CONSERVATIVES are criminals too. Not really sure your point. But blaming one party over another is a divisive tactic that won't fly in this subverse.
Not the way I define conservatism. You seem to be unable to distinguish (you're not a true Christian then) between them. Fake conservatives are not conservatives JUST LIKE fake Christians are NOT Christians (and WILL be shown the door, when they trot up to Jesus all happy with themselves). It's not an affectation (LOT's of people USE it that way). Just like nigger is not JUST about skin color.
Conservative here. It's never that simple. It's about good and evil, not conservative/liberal. Also, you may be confusing liberalism with radical leftists. Some of the greatest minds in history have been liberal thinkers. Liberal is relative, as is conservative. You can be a conservative Muslim and think it is ok to slice off a girl's private parts, or a liberal Democrat that advocates for zero restrictions on abortion. But yes, we are definitely reaping what we've sown for the past forty or fifty (more?) years and the harvest is quite rotten. Someone did a study that basically linked all kinds of downward social trends to the year that the supreme court of the U.S. took the daily morning prayer out of public schools...Satan really scored a victory that year. He'll score another one when "In God We Trust" is removed from our money.
supreme court of the U.S. took the daily morning prayer out of public schools
I upvoated you for your sentiment but I don't think your comment above is anything more than just another symptom of the cause. The CAUSE is Communists/Cultural Marxists and the damaging blitzkrieg of Post Modernism. We have been losing the battle of ideas because we have failed to recall our own history and the values that represent the Enlightenment.
Jesus was arguably the most important Enlightenment thinker but the Roman Church buried his ideas and truths under a pile of Latin Prayers and Rituals. It took Martin Luther, the next most significant Enlightenment catalyst, to unearth the core and fundamental notions that underpin the Christian ethos. That was 5 centuries ago. And then, of course, you have the others who synthesize the political implications of the Message of Jesus and others, like Spinoza, who distill elements of this fundamental message. Thomas Paine and John Locke take the argument to the political leadership and voila!, the notions of democracy and Tolerance bulldoze the corrupt power structures that kept everyone subjugated for centuries.
But now we are in a vacuum of forgetting and the Critical Theorists have entered this space as though the younger generation were Tabula Rasa, free of all prior wisdom. And that is not wrong. The System of Education has been captured as have the MSM outlets. What is needed is for the irrefutable arguments of the past that created the Enlightenment to make a brand new debut. So far, there is little sign that this is happening except from a few speakers like Jordan Peterson, folks that rarely are allowed a platform.
I feel like it's splitting hairs either way. I could argue that the abolition of school prayer gave Satan the "in" he needed for said Marxism to gain a foothold, but I don't have a magical window into the realm of the spirit. I just think it's an awfully strong coincidence if the statistics are valid. I've always been taught that "the prayer of a righteous man availeth much" and "whatsoever ye ask in Christ's name", etc. In short, prayer is nothing to shrug at. I truly believe the gains being made today are a result of MANY prayers and without CONTINUED prayer, repentance, faith in God, what we are seeing is but a brief respite...
But the time sequence is wrong. The Marxists came in first and then the Prayer (and notions of patriotism and national pride) went out the window due to indoctrination in the schools and colleges. And don't forget the admonition of Christ to not pray on the Street Corner (eg Don't demonstrate you virtue to be seen as virtuous. Just be Virtuous!). Praying in a school seems like:
1) Praying on the street corner
2) An industrialization of prayer and
3) Public Schools are not Churches and public school Prayer led by the paid staff on school time is a violation of the separation of Church and State. Trust me. You DO NOT WANT the government to be endorsing a branch of Christianity or opening that door for any other religion. We can all pray or not pray in our own way. The Creator is not housed in a cube in Mecca and requires you to face him with geographical precision and pray at particular times and manner!
Hey, I hope your Thanksgiving is with a happy and healthy family and good cheer all around!
I never said God was housed in any cube in Mecca or required us to face it while we pray? Prayer in schools was still reverence to the authority of our creator, and one need not all believe in the exact same things about God to ask Him for the things we surely all want from Him. And think of the psychological effect of removing that daily reverence to something greater than ourselves. While I do see your point about government mandated anything, it went on in our schools for 200 years...and I would not in good conscience be able to argue that things have improved since that time. :) But you make some good points.
Thank you for the well wishes! I hope the same for you! 😊
Of course you didn't! You are not a benighted human being who subscribed to Islam and the lies of Mohammad. So, awesome person, you missed the point I was making. That is my bad. What I was trying to emphasize is that, unlike Islam, Christians can pray anywhere, at anytime, and yet expect their creator to hear their words. So "School Prayer" is no more sacrosanct to a Christian than is praying in private while making widgets at a factory. But for Muslims, they have created necessities and places and times as being sacrosanct and become enraged when their dogma is not catered to.
And think of the psychological effect of removing that daily reverence
It is a valid concern. I think you are correct I am a nonbeliever (I don't believe in magic of any kind) but I am also an ardent appreciator of Jesus Christ. And it is important to the survival of our culture to value and teach the core Judeo-Christian story and meaning to the youth. And we need to teach the scientific method and the skeptic mindset. From those starting points, the individual can assemble their world view grounded in Western Thought. Currently, neither of those foundations are taught and so education in the USA and the West has become "hallowed" out (excuse the pun).
Again, I hope your THANKSGIVING is super-duper! Ta'
When I'm being "racist" I'm speaking in GENERAL, not absolutes. I KNOW it's now that simple. What you are explaining to me, is what I already am aware of. I'm speaking to the overarching effect on EVERYONE.
Speaking of Satan, it probably wasn't a good idea to allow mainstream protestant churches to STOP teaching the Bible (chapter by chapter and verse by verse) and START social (anti poverty) activism...This is WOMEN who are SUPPOSED to shut the fuck up in church.
ALSO, not a good idea to have them teach that everyone is EQUAL,,,,GIVEN (Bible) the WARNINGS about kenites, tares, BAD figs.
The Key of David is "real" and it DOES close doors that CANNOT be reopened and OPEN doors that CANNOT be closed to those who possess it.
I cannot ABIDE the way you CAPITALIZE various words at RANDOM as if this will cause the READER to be more easily INFLUENCED somehow. Also, I'm guilty of cursing when I get angry sometimes, heaven knows, God forgive me... but it's not expedient or Christ-like to drop f-bombs or racial slurs while spreading the message of God. Neither are they kind. Can you imagine Jesus calling people niggers? Does that fit with what you know of the savior of mankind? No? Then stop doing it and stop defending it! As for this stuff about the Key of David...I've only heard of Solomon's Key. As you may know, he was the son of David and a King of Israel, and he dabbled in witchcraft, idolatry, adultery, and lead Israel astray. I'll not be messing around with his grimoires of demons, thank you. As far as women being forbidden to speak in church, I'm not sure how this is even relevant top the topic at hand but since you brought it up...you will not find any God fearing house of Christian worship that requires total silence of women. Strong cases can be made against women holding positions of authority over men in the church (Yes I'm a woman and I do believe that is what the Bible teaches!) but the verse you are referring to is generally thought to be about women disrupting the service by asking questions because they struggled with the language. They were told to be quiet during the sermon and ask their husbands at home. 😌 Smh.....
You THINK it's RANDOM. Do you know what random MEANS? The BIBLE uses caps to emphasize.
It's like cussing. Should I not use offensive language (to you) either?
Jesus said "GET AWAY FROM ME, I NEVER KNEW YOU"....God hated Esau (IN THE WOMB).
Stop hating EVIL? You MUST be evil yourself.
The Key of David is the genetic lineage (and lifestyles) of Christ. YOUR faith OPENS AND closes doors.
"Strong" cases. SHEESH. I SUSPECTED you were a woman. You have a JOB. I'ts an IMPORTANT job. DO IT CORRECTLY. MEN do what men MUST do. It is NOT pleasant. EVIL makes it LOOK glamorous. It is NOT something we LIKE to do. We are following the LAW.
Keep the KIDS...and STOP being ungrateful. Your role IS important, but it's NOT on the FRONT lines. Mistakes WILL be made, YOU are NOT the correction.
I JUST want what is CORRECT. (just so you know). I DETEST power and responsibility. I would PREFER to be a LOVED CHILD of a WOMAN. That is NOT reality.
God sends strong delusions to the unbeliever to keep you out of our hair. I plant a seed, I move on. I'm not here to drag you kicking in screaming into heaven.
I wonder if God actually hates me sometimes. You? I NEVER hear from him directly, even just to see if he hates me? I pray for death. I don't get it. Still I study. I'm NOT trying to con God, but maybe I just have no clue what sincerity IS? I try and I try. Since I was saved, my life has been turned upside down. I see evil where I didn't before, and goodness where I thought evil WAS before!
I wish I were dead. Either way, God hates me, or God loves me....seems like I'm so insignificant, there should be NO problem...an insignificant IMPROVEMENT in the universe in fact. I don't get it. God wants me humble. I'm HUMBLE. I'm an IDIOT. I don't GET it. I just want ETERNAL PEACE! Let's get started!
No I don't think God hates me. Quite the contrary. You have to learn to be quiet and listen to His voice when your thoughts get turbulent. Read your Bible. Pray. Meditate on His goodness. Let your heart be broken and made anew. When I strayed away from God, I did so for about a decade. Coming back was not as easy as snapping my fingers. He does everything in His own way and time. I did not give up on wanting to feel that blessed assurance. I begged for God to do whatever it took for Him to get it through my thick skull! I realize now He was teaching me patience. I feel a lot more confident about Him now than I ever did when I was a new Christian. Remember Satan hates you and wants you to fail, but God is higher and stronger. He can't separate you from the Father, all Satan can do is give you temporary doubts but if you have Christ in your heart your place in eternity is already reserved and there is nothing that old devil can do it. That said, we can never obtain that peaceful knowledge in THIS life if we aren't obeying His will. God is loving but he does NOT spare the rod from His wayward children. If you're feeling the rod, examine what is going on. That may be His way of trying to correct you. No offense meant. All God's children feel that feeling, so don't think I'm preaching. God bless you!
Yeah I heard if God doesn't punish you, he doesn't care about you, and he doesn't care about everyone.
Anyway, I'm still a "baby" in the word (Hebrews says get PAST that). I don't even know if the messages (prayers for wisdom, protection from evil, guidance, support, etc) I get are from God or somewhere evil (opportunity for it). I just know EVERYTHING is different now and I feel LOST a lot, but I'm NOT quitting, since I REALIZE it's the ONLY thing worth HOPING for (salvation and eternal life WITHOUT the presence of evil!).
Anyway thanks again. I would say "God bless you" but I don't know if I have that kind of pull, and might get pounded for that. So I say, God's will to you, it's probably good given what I think I've learned about you.
Do you ever wonder what God does for fun? Does he even have fun?
Of course you can say God bless you! 😁 Thank you. God's will is perfect so thank you for that too. Stay strong, be of good cheer, and be patient with yourself. God knows what you are going through and He ABSOLUTELY loves you. He loves the world, but He doesn't force Himself on it.
I do wonder that! Lol. I do think God has a spirit of playfulness, because His creation does. What does God do for fun? Well for starters I think he creates for His own enjoyment. The "original" artist, you could say. Beyond that, I can only speculate, but the Bible says we will one day worship Him "in spirit and in truth" and we'll see and know His true face. We will find out one day everything we want to know, and I look forward to that very much. There's nothing in this life we'll miss because Heaven will be infinitely better. Until then, it's wonderful to wonder! 😁
I imagine him ( in heaven as ALWAYS) not needing to move, but VERY comfortable, then I think of things that might be fun for ANYONE. All ideas fall short. Someone who always has been and will ever be the same (an idea I LOVE). There has to be something. Can't be at others' expense, can't be wasteful or destructive (I'm guessing, though infinity makes waste a moot issue). He can have everything EXACTLY as he wants it to be. SO what is fun when you have that? I wonder!
THANKS again. You help make me know what God's love IS. Peace be with you. Happy Thanksgiving!
Thanks. Yeah but, Esau (in the FIRST Earth age) was uninterested in his heritage. In the second Earth age (present) he sold his inheritance for soup. God KNEW his way.
I'm not saying salvation isn't open to EVERYONE (including Satan). I'm saying they CHOSE their course. People who choose without knowing have the millennium to figure it out. People who CHOSE before (Satan, Esau, et al) are (unknown reason) destined for SEGREGATION (at least, I don't know what "blotting out" means specifically except for OUR perception of it...no MEMORY of them).
Hence the kenites, the tares, the bad figs...I might be one...I'm repenting (ORDEAL) though.
Jacob got screwed...But leah bore MOST of Israel's (Jabob's) tribe. So THAT makes me think that just because I don't LIKE something doesn't mean it's not for the BEST!
Jacob was CHOSEN (most aren't) so he got the breaks.
Esau cried to Isaac (dad), NOT to God. WRONG move, after CHOSING to squander his inheritance (first born).
It's simple, but also sophisticated, that's what makes if BEAUTIFUL to me. BEYOND me. BETTER than me.
I'm thinking I LOVE you. First friend (maybe?) I've had SINCE I repented! I feel like I just encountered someone, for the FIRST time, in a forest, I've been wandering in. that looks friendly to me.
I'm never one to turn down friends. ☺ Just don't let your emotions carry you down the river and confuse the relief of peace you feel with something magical about me. I'm just a regular joe (jane?). It's just I remember how that confusion feels. I even still feel that myself from time to time, God knows I stumble constantly. 😒 I'm happy I was able to be a blessing for you in some way, that's a blessing to me as well! 😁
I'm not. I'm just THANKFUL that I'm getting to exchange ideas with someone like you. OKAY? I'm not a wacko sort. Just a lost soul...who has, until now, NOT found a person who doesn't think I'm a wacko for this thing I've undertaken (salvation)...and doesn't want to USE me to "help" (GIVE ME MONEY) others.
You are a BRIGHT light in my opinion. Stumbliing is NOT an issue.
I think God may be about to BLAST you with a blessing (let me know when it happens). He probably shoved you into my path.
You know it's ALL God, not us. WE just want what HE wants right? You know that. Remember if you get hit by a bus, that God just REWARDED you with a lighter sentence, I cannot imagine a reason why God would want to hurt you at this point despite your failings. Though, Who knows?
Anyway, MUCH love to you. God's will to you. You have been helpful. If God doesn't hate me, then you're probably not going to get punished for this. I'm REALLY trying. It's my ONLY hope now (in mortal life). Hope to see you on the other side (the good side of the gulf). I'm not sure that I'm worthy, but if not, I'm FINE with working it out in the millennium rule (1000 years) after Christ's return. I just hope I'm not stuck with dealing with the REALY evil sorts for 1000 years!
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thebearfromstartrack ago
I BET there are ZERO kids involved from conservative families. ALL are the spawn of "liberal" parasites (single moms, welfare, etc). Right? It's called CONSEQUENCES people. Liberal policies spawn all manner of horrific downstream consequences.
3141592653 ago
just no.
thebearfromstartrack ago
Is this how you go through life? You actually think I would CALL you on a phone?
3141592653 ago
ummm I think you're responding to the wrong person
thebearfromstartrack ago
Did you LOOK at the message chain? Which exists. I AM "thebearfromstartrack". Is that whom you are attempting to speak with? Is this Reese WItherspoon? Would you PLEASE stop bugging me? It was ONE kiss. I know you were happy and seeing skyrockets and shit, but you are WAY too stupid and stinky for someone like me.
eucalyptus_spearmint ago
Are you on drugs? 😏
thebearfromstartrack ago
Have you CALLED the phone number?
eucalyptus_spearmint ago
I have better things to do.
thebearfromstartrack ago
What things? Can I do them to? I JUST want a better life.
2impendingdoom ago
Conservative isn't necessarily the same as rich elite oligarchy families. And some of those, the kids can end up pretty messed up. I've met a fair share and there very often suicides and drug addicts among them. For example, Anderson (Vanderbilt) Cooper's brother threw himself out a window for reasons I don't know. I'm not suggesting we be lenient to criminals but I'm thinking that criminals or evil people sometimes hurt the people closest to them the most.
thebearfromstartrack ago
DId I SAY it was?
There are CRIMINAL rich people. THey are NOT conservatives, though they might WEAR that (affectation) like a sheep costume (Hillary/Bill Clinton). Evil is ALWAYS disquised. Obama isn't even a nigger, he just LOOKS like one.
2impendingdoom ago
I'm absolutely certain that a lot of CONSERVATIVES are criminals too. Not really sure your point. But blaming one party over another is a divisive tactic that won't fly in this subverse.
thebearfromstartrack ago
Not the way I define conservatism. You seem to be unable to distinguish (you're not a true Christian then) between them. Fake conservatives are not conservatives JUST LIKE fake Christians are NOT Christians (and WILL be shown the door, when they trot up to Jesus all happy with themselves). It's not an affectation (LOT's of people USE it that way). Just like nigger is not JUST about skin color.
eucalyptus_spearmint ago
Conservative here. It's never that simple. It's about good and evil, not conservative/liberal. Also, you may be confusing liberalism with radical leftists. Some of the greatest minds in history have been liberal thinkers. Liberal is relative, as is conservative. You can be a conservative Muslim and think it is ok to slice off a girl's private parts, or a liberal Democrat that advocates for zero restrictions on abortion. But yes, we are definitely reaping what we've sown for the past forty or fifty (more?) years and the harvest is quite rotten. Someone did a study that basically linked all kinds of downward social trends to the year that the supreme court of the U.S. took the daily morning prayer out of public schools...Satan really scored a victory that year. He'll score another one when "In God We Trust" is removed from our money.
novictim ago
I upvoated you for your sentiment but I don't think your comment above is anything more than just another symptom of the cause. The CAUSE is Communists/Cultural Marxists and the damaging blitzkrieg of Post Modernism. We have been losing the battle of ideas because we have failed to recall our own history and the values that represent the Enlightenment.
Jesus was arguably the most important Enlightenment thinker but the Roman Church buried his ideas and truths under a pile of Latin Prayers and Rituals. It took Martin Luther, the next most significant Enlightenment catalyst, to unearth the core and fundamental notions that underpin the Christian ethos. That was 5 centuries ago. And then, of course, you have the others who synthesize the political implications of the Message of Jesus and others, like Spinoza, who distill elements of this fundamental message. Thomas Paine and John Locke take the argument to the political leadership and voila!, the notions of democracy and Tolerance bulldoze the corrupt power structures that kept everyone subjugated for centuries.
But now we are in a vacuum of forgetting and the Critical Theorists have entered this space as though the younger generation were Tabula Rasa, free of all prior wisdom. And that is not wrong. The System of Education has been captured as have the MSM outlets. What is needed is for the irrefutable arguments of the past that created the Enlightenment to make a brand new debut. So far, there is little sign that this is happening except from a few speakers like Jordan Peterson, folks that rarely are allowed a platform.
eucalyptus_spearmint ago
I feel like it's splitting hairs either way. I could argue that the abolition of school prayer gave Satan the "in" he needed for said Marxism to gain a foothold, but I don't have a magical window into the realm of the spirit. I just think it's an awfully strong coincidence if the statistics are valid. I've always been taught that "the prayer of a righteous man availeth much" and "whatsoever ye ask in Christ's name", etc. In short, prayer is nothing to shrug at. I truly believe the gains being made today are a result of MANY prayers and without CONTINUED prayer, repentance, faith in God, what we are seeing is but a brief respite...
And yes, Jordan Peterson is pretty great! 👍
novictim ago
But the time sequence is wrong. The Marxists came in first and then the Prayer (and notions of patriotism and national pride) went out the window due to indoctrination in the schools and colleges. And don't forget the admonition of Christ to not pray on the Street Corner (eg Don't demonstrate you virtue to be seen as virtuous. Just be Virtuous!). Praying in a school seems like:
1) Praying on the street corner
2) An industrialization of prayer and
3) Public Schools are not Churches and public school Prayer led by the paid staff on school time is a violation of the separation of Church and State. Trust me. You DO NOT WANT the government to be endorsing a branch of Christianity or opening that door for any other religion. We can all pray or not pray in our own way. The Creator is not housed in a cube in Mecca and requires you to face him with geographical precision and pray at particular times and manner!
Hey, I hope your Thanksgiving is with a happy and healthy family and good cheer all around!
eucalyptus_spearmint ago
I never said God was housed in any cube in Mecca or required us to face it while we pray? Prayer in schools was still reverence to the authority of our creator, and one need not all believe in the exact same things about God to ask Him for the things we surely all want from Him. And think of the psychological effect of removing that daily reverence to something greater than ourselves. While I do see your point about government mandated anything, it went on in our schools for 200 years...and I would not in good conscience be able to argue that things have improved since that time. :) But you make some good points.
Thank you for the well wishes! I hope the same for you! 😊
novictim ago
Of course you didn't! You are not a benighted human being who subscribed to Islam and the lies of Mohammad. So, awesome person, you missed the point I was making. That is my bad. What I was trying to emphasize is that, unlike Islam, Christians can pray anywhere, at anytime, and yet expect their creator to hear their words. So "School Prayer" is no more sacrosanct to a Christian than is praying in private while making widgets at a factory. But for Muslims, they have created necessities and places and times as being sacrosanct and become enraged when their dogma is not catered to.
It is a valid concern. I think you are correct I am a nonbeliever (I don't believe in magic of any kind) but I am also an ardent appreciator of Jesus Christ. And it is important to the survival of our culture to value and teach the core Judeo-Christian story and meaning to the youth. And we need to teach the scientific method and the skeptic mindset. From those starting points, the individual can assemble their world view grounded in Western Thought. Currently, neither of those foundations are taught and so education in the USA and the West has become "hallowed" out (excuse the pun).
Again, I hope your THANKSGIVING is super-duper! Ta'
eucalyptus_spearmint ago
It is! I'm also super duper stuffed. Dessert will have to wait. 😵
thebearfromstartrack ago
When I'm being "racist" I'm speaking in GENERAL, not absolutes. I KNOW it's now that simple. What you are explaining to me, is what I already am aware of. I'm speaking to the overarching effect on EVERYONE.
Speaking of Satan, it probably wasn't a good idea to allow mainstream protestant churches to STOP teaching the Bible (chapter by chapter and verse by verse) and START social (anti poverty) activism...This is WOMEN who are SUPPOSED to shut the fuck up in church.
ALSO, not a good idea to have them teach that everyone is EQUAL,,,,GIVEN (Bible) the WARNINGS about kenites, tares, BAD figs.
The Key of David is "real" and it DOES close doors that CANNOT be reopened and OPEN doors that CANNOT be closed to those who possess it.
Mortal life is DIFFICULT until you HAVE that key.
eucalyptus_spearmint ago
I cannot ABIDE the way you CAPITALIZE various words at RANDOM as if this will cause the READER to be more easily INFLUENCED somehow. Also, I'm guilty of cursing when I get angry sometimes, heaven knows, God forgive me... but it's not expedient or Christ-like to drop f-bombs or racial slurs while spreading the message of God. Neither are they kind. Can you imagine Jesus calling people niggers? Does that fit with what you know of the savior of mankind? No? Then stop doing it and stop defending it! As for this stuff about the Key of David...I've only heard of Solomon's Key. As you may know, he was the son of David and a King of Israel, and he dabbled in witchcraft, idolatry, adultery, and lead Israel astray. I'll not be messing around with his grimoires of demons, thank you. As far as women being forbidden to speak in church, I'm not sure how this is even relevant top the topic at hand but since you brought it up...you will not find any God fearing house of Christian worship that requires total silence of women. Strong cases can be made against women holding positions of authority over men in the church (Yes I'm a woman and I do believe that is what the Bible teaches!) but the verse you are referring to is generally thought to be about women disrupting the service by asking questions because they struggled with the language. They were told to be quiet during the sermon and ask their husbands at home. 😌 Smh.....
thebearfromstartrack ago
You THINK it's RANDOM. Do you know what random MEANS? The BIBLE uses caps to emphasize.
It's like cussing. Should I not use offensive language (to you) either?
Jesus said "GET AWAY FROM ME, I NEVER KNEW YOU"....God hated Esau (IN THE WOMB).
Stop hating EVIL? You MUST be evil yourself.
The Key of David is the genetic lineage (and lifestyles) of Christ. YOUR faith OPENS AND closes doors.
"Strong" cases. SHEESH. I SUSPECTED you were a woman. You have a JOB. I'ts an IMPORTANT job. DO IT CORRECTLY. MEN do what men MUST do. It is NOT pleasant. EVIL makes it LOOK glamorous. It is NOT something we LIKE to do. We are following the LAW.
Keep the KIDS...and STOP being ungrateful. Your role IS important, but it's NOT on the FRONT lines. Mistakes WILL be made, YOU are NOT the correction.
I JUST want what is CORRECT. (just so you know). I DETEST power and responsibility. I would PREFER to be a LOVED CHILD of a WOMAN. That is NOT reality.
eucalyptus_spearmint ago
You are rambling and incoherent. I don't think YOUR place is on the front lines. Because....well, you don't make a lick of sense. shrug Bye!
thebearfromstartrack ago
God sends strong delusions to the unbeliever to keep you out of our hair. I plant a seed, I move on. I'm not here to drag you kicking in screaming into heaven.
eucalyptus_spearmint ago
I don't need your help to get there. Jesus saves, not you.
thebearfromstartrack ago
I wonder if God actually hates me sometimes. You? I NEVER hear from him directly, even just to see if he hates me? I pray for death. I don't get it. Still I study. I'm NOT trying to con God, but maybe I just have no clue what sincerity IS? I try and I try. Since I was saved, my life has been turned upside down. I see evil where I didn't before, and goodness where I thought evil WAS before!
I wish I were dead. Either way, God hates me, or God loves me....seems like I'm so insignificant, there should be NO problem...an insignificant IMPROVEMENT in the universe in fact. I don't get it. God wants me humble. I'm HUMBLE. I'm an IDIOT. I don't GET it. I just want ETERNAL PEACE! Let's get started!
eucalyptus_spearmint ago
No I don't think God hates me. Quite the contrary. You have to learn to be quiet and listen to His voice when your thoughts get turbulent. Read your Bible. Pray. Meditate on His goodness. Let your heart be broken and made anew. When I strayed away from God, I did so for about a decade. Coming back was not as easy as snapping my fingers. He does everything in His own way and time. I did not give up on wanting to feel that blessed assurance. I begged for God to do whatever it took for Him to get it through my thick skull! I realize now He was teaching me patience. I feel a lot more confident about Him now than I ever did when I was a new Christian. Remember Satan hates you and wants you to fail, but God is higher and stronger. He can't separate you from the Father, all Satan can do is give you temporary doubts but if you have Christ in your heart your place in eternity is already reserved and there is nothing that old devil can do it. That said, we can never obtain that peaceful knowledge in THIS life if we aren't obeying His will. God is loving but he does NOT spare the rod from His wayward children. If you're feeling the rod, examine what is going on. That may be His way of trying to correct you. No offense meant. All God's children feel that feeling, so don't think I'm preaching. God bless you!
thebearfromstartrack ago
Thanks for the fertilizer and the watering.
Yeah I heard if God doesn't punish you, he doesn't care about you, and he doesn't care about everyone.
Anyway, I'm still a "baby" in the word (Hebrews says get PAST that). I don't even know if the messages (prayers for wisdom, protection from evil, guidance, support, etc) I get are from God or somewhere evil (opportunity for it). I just know EVERYTHING is different now and I feel LOST a lot, but I'm NOT quitting, since I REALIZE it's the ONLY thing worth HOPING for (salvation and eternal life WITHOUT the presence of evil!).
Anyway thanks again. I would say "God bless you" but I don't know if I have that kind of pull, and might get pounded for that. So I say, God's will to you, it's probably good given what I think I've learned about you.
Do you ever wonder what God does for fun? Does he even have fun?
eucalyptus_spearmint ago
Of course you can say God bless you! 😁 Thank you. God's will is perfect so thank you for that too. Stay strong, be of good cheer, and be patient with yourself. God knows what you are going through and He ABSOLUTELY loves you. He loves the world, but He doesn't force Himself on it.
I do wonder that! Lol. I do think God has a spirit of playfulness, because His creation does. What does God do for fun? Well for starters I think he creates for His own enjoyment. The "original" artist, you could say. Beyond that, I can only speculate, but the Bible says we will one day worship Him "in spirit and in truth" and we'll see and know His true face. We will find out one day everything we want to know, and I look forward to that very much. There's nothing in this life we'll miss because Heaven will be infinitely better. Until then, it's wonderful to wonder! 😁
thebearfromstartrack ago
You are helping. I actually feel better now.
I imagine him ( in heaven as ALWAYS) not needing to move, but VERY comfortable, then I think of things that might be fun for ANYONE. All ideas fall short. Someone who always has been and will ever be the same (an idea I LOVE). There has to be something. Can't be at others' expense, can't be wasteful or destructive (I'm guessing, though infinity makes waste a moot issue). He can have everything EXACTLY as he wants it to be. SO what is fun when you have that? I wonder!
THANKS again. You help make me know what God's love IS. Peace be with you. Happy Thanksgiving!
eucalyptus_spearmint ago
You as well! 😊
thebearfromstartrack ago
Eucalyptus spearmint...SO refreshing INVOLUNTARILY!
eucalyptus_spearmint ago
http://jesusalive.cc/ques33.htm By the way you spoke of God hating Esau... so I couldn't resist showing you this... ;)
thebearfromstartrack ago
Thanks. Yeah but, Esau (in the FIRST Earth age) was uninterested in his heritage. In the second Earth age (present) he sold his inheritance for soup. God KNEW his way.
I'm not saying salvation isn't open to EVERYONE (including Satan). I'm saying they CHOSE their course. People who choose without knowing have the millennium to figure it out. People who CHOSE before (Satan, Esau, et al) are (unknown reason) destined for SEGREGATION (at least, I don't know what "blotting out" means specifically except for OUR perception of it...no MEMORY of them).
Hence the kenites, the tares, the bad figs...I might be one...I'm repenting (ORDEAL) though.
Jacob got screwed...But leah bore MOST of Israel's (Jabob's) tribe. So THAT makes me think that just because I don't LIKE something doesn't mean it's not for the BEST!
Jacob was CHOSEN (most aren't) so he got the breaks.
Esau cried to Isaac (dad), NOT to God. WRONG move, after CHOSING to squander his inheritance (first born).
It's simple, but also sophisticated, that's what makes if BEAUTIFUL to me. BEYOND me. BETTER than me.
I'm thinking I LOVE you. First friend (maybe?) I've had SINCE I repented! I feel like I just encountered someone, for the FIRST time, in a forest, I've been wandering in. that looks friendly to me.
eucalyptus_spearmint ago
I'm never one to turn down friends. ☺ Just don't let your emotions carry you down the river and confuse the relief of peace you feel with something magical about me. I'm just a regular joe (jane?). It's just I remember how that confusion feels. I even still feel that myself from time to time, God knows I stumble constantly. 😒 I'm happy I was able to be a blessing for you in some way, that's a blessing to me as well! 😁
thebearfromstartrack ago
I'm not. I'm just THANKFUL that I'm getting to exchange ideas with someone like you. OKAY? I'm not a wacko sort. Just a lost soul...who has, until now, NOT found a person who doesn't think I'm a wacko for this thing I've undertaken (salvation)...and doesn't want to USE me to "help" (GIVE ME MONEY) others.
You are a BRIGHT light in my opinion. Stumbliing is NOT an issue.
I think God may be about to BLAST you with a blessing (let me know when it happens). He probably shoved you into my path.
You know it's ALL God, not us. WE just want what HE wants right? You know that. Remember if you get hit by a bus, that God just REWARDED you with a lighter sentence, I cannot imagine a reason why God would want to hurt you at this point despite your failings. Though, Who knows?
Anyway, MUCH love to you. God's will to you. You have been helpful. If God doesn't hate me, then you're probably not going to get punished for this. I'm REALLY trying. It's my ONLY hope now (in mortal life). Hope to see you on the other side (the good side of the gulf). I'm not sure that I'm worthy, but if not, I'm FINE with working it out in the millennium rule (1000 years) after Christ's return. I just hope I'm not stuck with dealing with the REALY evil sorts for 1000 years!
Anyway,,, much love tio you, and THANKS again!
3141592653 ago
High five
thebearfromstartrack ago
Be QUIET Reese.