Repost of deleted item -- link to original below.
While most of Q's offerings align with what researchers here have found over the past year -- there are things that don't jibe.
It's important that this community take a moment to think on those things Q and other high-ranking anons are saying that don't ring true for each of us, and compile them so we can review, see what others are thinking, and, if necessary, escape any groupthink and/or confirmatory bias that might have swept us up in the excitement.
Three things off the top of my head:
The Las Vegas narrative they offered seems even more far-fetched than anything that's come out of LVMPD and the FBI so far.
The Saudis-afraid-of-fracking narrative seems similarly far-fetched. Clinton was NOT going to stop fracking if she'd been elected.
The Saudi-Rothchild-Soros triangle is, as we know, over-simplistic and misdirectional.
Pizzagate-related because if we're being intentionally led off track, we need to regroup and refocus on our purpose here. If everything looks fine after we calmly review it, then we can more forward with more confidence.
Reposted with obligatory link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FlG6MpIh6Mo (no real new info here -- couldn't find anything that truly addresses the topic I'm raising)
Link to original post -- good comments, please read: https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2252303
Also cross-posted to /pizzagatewhatever -- more good comments here: https://voat.co/v/pizzagatewhatever/2252304
Commenters @11-11 @angelafogo @ESOTERICshade @think @SoldierofLight @Cantilever @Oh_Well_ian -- just a heads up in case you'd like to repost comments here.
Thanks all for your patience. I'm learning my way around.
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SoldierofLight ago
First off, thank you for having the balls to post this. Wish I could give you more than just one upvote because it seems like anywhere I go, just QUESTIONING what Q's intentions are makes me a target. It's okay for HIM to question, but God forbid we question the questioner.
Questioning=Being a Debbie Downer? Since when? (Oops, there I go again, questioning.)
The amount of rationalizing that people are doing to prop up the Cult of Q and the Cult of Trump to make it all better in their heads makes me want to punch a wall. And yes, it's become a cult. Does it bother you that Q equates Trump with Our Savior? I'm not even a Christian and that makes me want to vomit.
Personally, I don't think Q is a Larper--I think he's the latest incarnation of Operation Mockingbird. Basically, lead the alt-right digital crowd to the trough and make them drink the Kool-Aid of submission to authority. Since those people are more likely to own guns, bonus in case a revolution erupts. Just tell 'em Q said that Martial Law is a good thing and they'll comply. And Q thinks the NSA are the good guys, btw. The same guys who developed the software to spy on the world in their homes using peoples' TVs and other devices. Oh, uh somebody stole those toolkits and gave them to the bad guys so it's not the NSA's fault if bad shit happens as a result of what they did because they had good intentions. And according to Q, we're supposed to rally behind the NSA against the CIA. Nope. The enemy of my enemy is not necessarily my friend.
/Rant over.
For now.
PS: For the record, THIS is my only account on Voat. And no, I don't work for the gubment or Sharia Blue or (((Them))).
think- ago
This.
The more the 'Q' saga is going on, the more I am worried, deeply worried.
Why is it not possible for so many pizzagaters to take a step back and look at it from a distance? Why put all your hopes on Trump when all we know from observing politics and elite child abuse is that this is a non-partisan issue?
I'm all for throwing members of the Cabal into prison, but currently it is worrying me that some "of the usual suspects" might go to jail, and the Q crowd will think 'oh great, problem solved, proof that Trump is saviour, we don't have to care about elite child abuse anymore'.
Where's the spirit of thinking independently now that carried the pizzagaters along for the better half of this past year?
SoldierofLight ago
Exactly. If some of the big names go down, I'm going to cheer, but until the trafficking rings completely collapse, our job isn't done. And if we don't hold them accountable, who will? The normies?
think- ago
Highly unlikely, I'm afraid.
Everybody will be relieved that they can return living in their matrix afterwards.
It's a long process, it needs so much patience and persistance. :-)
SoldierofLight ago
As someone who is newly red pilled, patience is not my strength right now.
think- ago
I understand... I was a lurker for ten months on this sub before I signed up, so I already have had some time dealing with mixed emotions. Not sure whether I can keep up being patient in the long run though... ;-)
SterlingJB ago
Not only are the NSA painted as heroes, but Military Intelligence? Anyone ever hear of a fella named Col Aquino? Or notice how many psycho killers and cults originate in the vicinity of military bases?
think- ago
Thank you so much for pointing this out!
SoldierofLight ago
Good points. I'll add MK-Ultra and all of the more recent incarnations of that program to the list of why military intelligence isn't a group I want to get under the covers with. Oh, and tunnels, particularly DUMBs. What happened to the Pizzagate investigators who researched the connections between the military industrial complex and child sex trafficking? How about all those posts that include the ones about the Greenbrier Hotel, etc.?
chabon ago
This. Also, Q certainly is driving the narrative in limited directions, not all of which align with what we all have discovered for ourselves. I feel like the free-range /pizzagate researchers are getting driven into a corral or box canyon.
SoldierofLight ago
Agreed on all points. Pilots who are taught how to survive mountain flying will first fly past a canyon opening to see if it might box them in before they commit to entering. Then, if they enter it, they hug the right side to give them as much room as possible to turn around if they become trapped. This approach seems sensible for just about everything.
chabon ago
Exactly. And excellent strategic awareness.
(((They))) are countless steps ahead of us. We have to get smarter, faster. And not be afraid to LOOK at things from every angle. We've been in blinders so long, we're still learning what it is to SEE without them.
ESOTERICshade ago
That is a great analogy.
chabon ago
Just checked out the latest Q-drop post. It's like Christmas morning over there, the kids are so excited.
Uncle Ian is the first commenter -- calming the kids' doubts, setting the narrative. Interesting timing, his showing up @ /pizzagate right before the Q drops begin. Barely recognized him as the commenter running all the douchebaggery on this post this morning. And yes, I get the irony that I showed up at the same time -- and I also notice that I stepped up to hold the other end of the tug-o-war rope. This world is cursed with divisiveness.
And this:
If this is shit, cruel isn't a strong enough word.
@think @SoldierOfLight
think- ago
Yep, I confess I'm a bit jealous... ;-)
Interesting, isn't it?
That's what I thought, too. (He is actually able to write comments without using abusive language? ;-) ).
chabon ago
Ya. Me too. Although that childlike credulity has me even more concerned for how hard the fall will be for them if our concerns turn out to be valid.
I checked Uncle Ian's voat history last night. He's been very busy all over voat this last month. Must have a lot of time on his hands. Or something.
Ya. Funny how the conversation might have been very different, with more people potentially joining in, if he hadn't shat every possible where.
Maybe he's just really high on the hopium and doesn't want his supply interrupted. Maybe.
think- ago
LOL
ESOTERICshade ago
What is the link on it?
chabon ago
From the front page: https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2253986
ESOTERICshade ago
Ok thanx. I thought you meant the sticky.
chabon ago
Someone downvoted this comment? WTF?
Apologies if I seemed terse yestereve. It was a sobering day.
chabon ago
Ah. I was wondering ... :)
ESOTERICshade ago
I still don't understand what it is they are trying to accomplish. What is the goal? I went into that thread yesterday for a few minutes and looked around but I don't understand the mission.
chabon ago
Did someone go through and downvote all your comments? What even the fuck?
I don't know how voat works -- does this have some impact in the community?
ESOTERICshade ago
Yeah and I am pretty sure I know who it is. I don't really give a fuck but if they keep doing it, just for fun, I might start doing the same. Why not? :)
chabon ago
Didn't get the pies made yet. Came across this: http://www.illuminati-news.com/00363.html
Wondered if you'd seen it.
ESOTERICshade ago
I remember seeing that a long time ago but I don't remember a lot of it. Thanx for the link.
chabon ago
You are most welcome :)
chabon ago
Lol. I'm gonna go bake pies.
We're not gonna get done what we need to get done on social media. It's impossible to build the necessary trust. But awareness is growing, so we've got that going for us.
chabon ago
It really does look like a big game of Clue.
SoldierofLight ago
That's right. Deception is their rule book. And we've been like horses with blinders on.
ESOTERICshade ago
Outstanding post soldieroflight.
SoldierofLight ago
Thank you. And thank you also for weighing in on this.
ESOTERICshade ago
I am not saying that Q's questions do not lead to good information.
This is my point. People are under the impression that Trump is taking down the NWO. Trump just got back from Asia making deals for the NWO that probably number in the hundreds of billions of dollars at a minimum.
Some people are under the impression that an NWO takedown is underway. That is taking advantage of people and shading their perception of reality because it is a lie. People should not be misled, have their efforts used, for a situation they believe is taking down the NWO.
Its cruel.
think- ago
Someone on the thread on the latest Q droppings said Q might be Stephen Miller and team.
This would totally make sense imo.
@chabon @SoldierofLight @SterlingJB
SoldierofLight ago
Makes perfect sense.
chabon ago
Wow. Miller's a charmer.
chabon ago
Don't know who Stephen Miller is. Gotta go duck duck.