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independenceday ago

Someone mind-fuck him into given up the goods?

'This marks the second time Manson, an inmate at Corcoran State Prison, was hospitalized this year. In January, Manson spent several days in a Bakersfield hospital. The prison system would not comment on his condition, but sources at the time said he had a “serious” illness.'

bopper ago

It's recently coming out that Ernest Hemingway's shock therapy treatments were no accident. He was connected to Fidel Castro, he knew him ... who knows what they did to Manson.

2impendingdoom ago

how could shock treatments possibly be an accident?

bopper ago

Indeed. I screwed that up didn't I? Supposedly they were against his will. He lost his mind after that. Someone said they're the equivalent of electrical lobotomies. But Hemingway was also a heavy drinker. He tried to walk into an airplane propeller. I saw Hemingway today at McDonald's, I told him he looked just like an aged Hemingway and he said I get that all the time.

2impendingdoom ago

I can't imagine anyone getting shock treatment willingly but maybe. Anyway, reminds me of Rosemary Kennedy with the lobotomy talk. I wonder what she did to cause hers. All these families are so fucked up in one way or another.

bopper ago

Rosemary Kennedy with the lobotomy talk.

Wow I forgot all about that. Yeah, they are indeed messed up. Probably a lot of psych drugs involved. My grandmother willingly got shock treatment as a last ditch thing, then committed suicide (well supposedly she was willing). Lewis Meriwether of Lewis and Clark killed himself too, cause he ran out of morphine. What a world.

2impendingdoom ago

my grandfather was given shock treatments too. He died before I was born. but the alleged reason was to shush him from disclosing FDR's provocation of Pearl Harbor.

bopper ago

Wow, then no wonder Hemingway's treatment is suspect.

2impendingdoom ago

yes, my g-g'father was part of the York Plan, supplying for the (illegal) lend lease program

bopper ago

Wow. I remember that.

2impendingdoom ago

Actually, this will make you lol. I knew a guy whose dad was CIA/OSS and when he got old and was placed in a nursing home the family had to hire an attendant to make sure he didn't spill secrets.

bopper ago

That's funny. OSS goes way back. Well ... I know E. Howard Hunt's (Watergate CIA guy) son on facebook, St. John Hunt, he's in a rock band of all things. Hunt gave a death bed confession to his son so I guess they didn't attend him very well. Gosh I hope I don't get dementia, from being on Voat.

2impendingdoom ago

I think we are all getting dementia.