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independenceday ago

Someone mind-fuck him into given up the goods?

'This marks the second time Manson, an inmate at Corcoran State Prison, was hospitalized this year. In January, Manson spent several days in a Bakersfield hospital. The prison system would not comment on his condition, but sources at the time said he had a “serious” illness.'

srayzie ago

Yeah I remember when he was in the hospital last time. I think the there is more to the story when it comes to Manson and his followers. That goes deep. I've read a couple of books about it. There are a lot of connections with celebrities. Manson also grew up having a horrible childhood. I wouldn't doubt if he was mind controlled.

AngB23 ago

Wasn’t Manson friends at one time with The Beach Boys? And he was a huge Beatles fan

srayzie ago

I know he was a huge Beatles fan. I'm not sure about The Beach Boys. I bet @Bopper would know.

bopper ago

@AngB23 Yeah he lived w/ one of them or next door, I think he cut a song w/ them. The dot-connecting w/ Manson is mind-blowing and I have never taken the time to put it all together. Maybe one day.

Doris Day owned the house, Terry Melcher her son approached Manson for a record deal (Beach Boys involved somewhere in there), all those notable people killed, it goes on and on, Beatles lyrics written in blood on the walls before the White Album was actually out, the guy who replaced Paul McCartney was down visiting Mamas and the Papas (freak pedo Papa John) who were enlisted by the CIA to pass out LSD at the Monterrey Pop Festival, sigh.

It's funny that Mackenzie Phillips' book High on Arrival confirms McCartney hanging w/ them (her parents) at that time (intel was involved in Paul's replacement), they were staying in the old Johnny Weissmuller mansion, Mackenzie fell asleep at one point on Sir Paul's lap and then got in the elevator chandelier w/ him and they cranked it to the ceiling, so she said "I guess you could say I got high with, and slept with, Paul McCartney.

Yes I know all this stuff is hard to believe. I believe Manson was a patsy and I believe him here tho he was def nuts.

https://youtu.be/mPT27weM21U?t=22

Who got me started on this?

srayzie ago

Dang I didn't know the lyrics were written on the walls before the album came out. Helter Skelter?

bopper ago

TMZ reporting here.

Yeah it's in The Winged Beatle and probably in Memoirs of Billy Shears, which I believe to be written by McCartney himself. It's just alluded to.

Helter Skelter is the name of a roller coaster ride in the UK, it's a song on the White Album. It might hold clues, it might not. But most of their songs were filled w/ clues. The book explains a lot. I got the condensed version. The full one is, wait for it, 666 pages long.

Sir Paul is evasive about his dabbling w/ the occult, but admits it often in the book. They used to do seances.

srayzie ago

Geez. Most of this is before my time. But I was always fascinated by Manson. I don't know who some of these people you are talking about are but this is all really interesting to me.

bopper ago

Movie about Mary, "An American Affair," based on the book by Jansen (sp?), the guy who knew Mary as a kid. She was mistress of JFK. There's documentaries too.

srayzie ago

Dang. Marilyn Monroe too. I wonder why we don't hear about him being a perv. He's always talked about in a good light.

bopper ago

There's a wealth of info about his dalliances. He was as bad as Bill Clinton. It was kept under wraps. And LBJ, jealous of JFK ... "I've had more women by accident than he's had on purpose." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZAPzgb6nP8

Tyranny-News-Network ago

I'm no JFK expert, but no slouch at researching uncomfortable topics and I've produced a couple JFK assassination video reports. After seeing some interesting info suggesting he was gay I figured it was time to look into his personal relationships.

First point from what I concluded...JFK could have had any woman he wanted. A highly popular man with the entire spectrum. In fact, I came across the most trim of young ladies admitting to their fantasies and what they wanted to do with the man. I got to thinking the Monroe stuff was so over the top, why in the hell would he have anything to do with that sloppy, washed up wasted human?

Now consider the power required to suppress the core details of his murder for all these decades. Couldn't that same power be used to smear the man's reputation? The same thing seems to have been done to Oswald. Garrison himself described him as a hero and got choked up when talking about him. But when he was on the Carson show, it was clear that Johnny actually prepared for the interview specifically to ridicule the conspiracy.

If you're thinking that JFK assassination research has come close to solving the mystery, I wouldn't be so sure. I'm still baffled at how few know anything at all of the cancer research aspect of Oswald's background or Jack Ruby's explicit requests to be sleep induced and hypnotized after his arrest. I myself identified clear manipulation of the Zapruder film that few had considered. Lastly, did you know there were two related murders that day? Kennedy and officer Tibbet. Some sincere researchers still imagine Tibbet:s murder was not planned or maybe even Oswald was forced to kill him. But, before that fateful day Tibbet was known for one unique characteristic. He was the spitting image of JFK. It's unreasonable to suggest that's a coincidence. So I think few are on the right trail.

Of all the places to be sharing ideas and critiquing the news, it's here at Voat where we should constantly challenge our perceptions. Was JFK a scoundrel and a womanizer? I strongly doubt it. But many colleagues I respect greatly would say that he was. That is, until I gave them a good talking down to followed by a handshake and a laugh...and maybe even some call girls!

bopper ago

Kennedy was hardly gay, he was indeed a big womanizer, everybody knows that, even those who worship him. I'm facebook friends w/ a lot of people historically involved w/ the assassination including LHO's mistress. I talk w/ her occasionally and she does the yearly JFK conferences at Dealey Plaza. I've not researched the Monroe angle, but people I trust believe he and Bobby both had affairs w/ her. Supposedly the mob had her killed.

I'm also friends w/ John Barbour, who knew Garrison better than anybody. He just did a new documentary on Garrison. As far as solving the "mystery," watch the James Files (grassy knoll shooter) interview on youtube. I'm facebook friends w/ some of his relatives, including the daughter of Gary Marlow, friend of Files who killed officer Tippet. I'm friends w/ Chauncey Holt's daughter (one of the three tramps) Karyn Holt.

CIA (intermediary was David Atlee Phillips) contracted w/ mafia for the hit (Sam Giancana and Johnny Roselli). This is how they (CIA) handled wet-works at the time. Goes back to Cuba and attempts on Castro's life. Yes, Oswald via Judyth his mistress was involved in cancer studies as a means to kill Castro. Also David Ferrie was working w/ them. Yes, Zapruder film was altered, see Douglas Horne's work and interviews w/ original CIA head of film works in DC.

Oswald shot no one that day, nor any day. Officer Tippet just happened to stop the wrong two people, there were two. See Aquilla Clemons clip by Mark Lane. Tho Kennedy's body was indeed switched from the coffin to a body bag aboard Air Force One, the "JFK replaced by Tippet's body" has been proven false.

That is, until I gave them a good talking down to followed by a handshake and a laugh...and maybe even some call girls!

Wut? Lol.

srayzie ago

Wow that's crazy