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VandalayIndustries ago

Wtf? Toddlers?

CSokolof ago

...and infants

Votescam ago

Our sexual abusers of children are MALES.

Homosexuals are 100X LESS likely to sexually abuse a child than a heterosexual male.

Also note there are "Situational" pedophiles and "Preferential" pedophiles ... http://uspp.csbsju.edu/CrimPsych/CPSG-6.htm

finska ago

There are many statistics that contradict this claim. Here is one; According to the Australian Bureau of Statistics’ (ABS 2005) Personal Safety Survey, 12 percent of women and 4.5 percent of men in Australia report having been sexually abused before the age of 15 years yet only 1.6% of men in Australia identify as homosexual.

Any male who rapes or molests a boy in my opinion is gay or at least bi. However many of the men who do this are not openly gay and many are even married to women as a cover for their secret life. BUT you cannot by definition of their same sex attraction to male boys call them straight. This is how they come up with their numbers of abusers by only counting pedophiles gay if they are 'out'. This is part of the coverup. Listen to abuse survivor and whistle blower David Shurter who happens to be gay himself explain what really goes on.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VY40EGPaZj0YouTube

Votescam ago

finska --

There are many statistics that contradict this claim. Here is one; According to the Australian Bureau of Statistics’ (ABS 2005) Personal Safety Survey, 12 percent of women and 4.5 percent of men in Australia report having been sexually abused before the age of 15 years yet only 1.6% of men in Australia identify as homosexual>

The above says nothing about WHO our sexual abusers of children are.
They are MALES which even the right wing women's group confirms (Family Research Council).

Your statistics do confirm that the majority of VICTIMS are female.

But then you add this: >yet only 1.6% of men in Australia identify as homosexual>

First of all, what this this have to do with sexual abuse of children. As I said in my post, >heterosexual males are 100X more likely to sexually abuse a child.>

Additionally, not all homosexuals are willing to acknowledge being gay. In many areas, it is still dangerous to be homosexuals. I guess the most lasting myths come from "Christianity." After 2,000 years of preaching the "abomination" of homosexuality by the RCC we can't expect it to be reversed overnight.

Any male who rapes or molests a boy in my opinion is gay or at least bi.>

Many people believe that but it's not what statistics show. A true pedophile is labelled according to the AGES of the children they molest. That's what pedophilia is about ... the AGE of the child.

Basically, from what I've read pedophiles have no actual sexual orientation.

HOWEVER, in the case of "situational" pedophiles, they are men who prefer a relationship with a female, but when there is no female available, they will rape a child -- an infant, toddler.

Many homosexuals were forced by persecution of them into the "closet" ... and many did marry females and some even had children. But that doesn't make them pedophiles. Homosexuals have fought to end their oppression in order to be able to come out of the "closet" and to form open relationships with other adult homosexuals.

What Percent of the Population is Gay? More Than You Think ... https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/what-percent-of-the-population-is-gay-more-than-you-think-5012467/

And I don't have a link to it, but I've read that heterosexual couples have a 30% chance of having a homosexual child.

If You’re a Guy, Having Older Brothers Makes You More Likely to Be Gay http://nymag.com/scienceofus/2016/09/having-older-brothers-makes-you-more-likely-to-be-gay.html

Facts about Child Molestation ....

By contrast, in a 1999 national poll, the belief that most gay men are likely to molest or abuse children was endorsed by only 19% of heterosexual men and 10% of heterosexual women. Even fewer – 9% of men and 6% of women – regarded most lesbians as child molesters. http://psychology.ucdavis.edu/rainbow/html/facts_molestation.html

Re David Shurter ...

Not really familiar with David Schurter -- but if he's gay it seems odd that he refers to gays as "living a gay lifestyle" as most homosexuals (and heterosexuals) think that sexual orientation is a "lifestyle" or choice, but something we came into the world with. We don't consider being heterosexual a "lifestyle." And many of know at very early ages what our sexual orientation is. But, I am taking a look at what Shurter is saying ... and he's discussing the 80's which was also the beginning of AIDS/HIV. In US cases were being reported in June 1981.

finska ago

If 4.5% of Australian men have been molested (yes by men I agree totally on that) out of a population of 20mill people thats approx 450 000 boy victims.

If 1.6% of Australian men are gay thats approx 160 000 gay men in Australia. Lets say 1million to be sure. So 450 000 boys have been molested by 1million gay men.

Straight guys dont want sex with other males old, young or infant- that is the very definition of straight.

On the other hand there are over 9million straight men and 12% of women are molested as children thats 1 200 000 female victims. More overall but not relative to the size of the potentional pool of perpertrators(9mill).

Based on these figures gay men ( or bisexuals) have a much higher likely hood of offending. Gay/Bi 50% chance straights a l0% chance. It sucks either way and I'm not anti gay Im just doing the math.

I believe David Shurter is talking about the 'promiscuous gay lifestlye' and what he saw as part of that crowd ( for example one person hasving 1000s of sexual partners not uncommon) but he clearly states in that video not all gay people are part of the 'lifestyle'.

I feel really sorry for all the good gay men who get unfairly labelled. I know a lot of them would never harm a child but as a society we have to face that statistically this community harbours a higher percentage sexual predators. 🙁

Votescam ago

finska --

First problem you have with your estimate is that FEMALES are 82% of the victims and males 12% according to studies/statistics. That would mean that the 4.5% only represents 12% of the victims of pedophiles. The number of Australian victims if you add in females would be vast.

Second -- usually estimates of homosexuals are underestimated -- 20% is more likely. In fact, I've read that any heterosexual couple has a 30% chance of having a homosexual child. Obviously, Nature sees a need for diversity -- and perhaps also for some control on procreation. Also to provide someone to care for the many children who are orphaned. In fact, in Hawaii before the coming of the white man, homosexuals were held in high esteem and honor for their care of orphaned children there.

Straight guys dont want sex with other males old, young or infant- that is the very definition of straight.

Actually, if you recall the song ... "My Buddy, My Buddy .. your Buddy misses you...." you'll find that it's a song about heterosexual males in wartime.

In our US prisons we have 200,000 male on male rapes every year ... certainly NOT by homosexuals who are most frequently the victims. And what studies show is that immediately upon release from prison these men will rape a woman ... "in order to prove their manhood."
So likely, many of the victims are also heterosexual.

Think you had best also dig up some LINKS as to what you're reporting.

It's pretty clear that you don't like the studies and statistics .... but clearly MALES are our sexual abusers of children. Freud knew this long ago but liked to the public -- and presently Freud, himself, is under suspicion of being a pedophile. At that time, it was well understood by FREUD (from his victims/both male and female) that those who had sexually abused them in their childhood were fathers, grandfathers, uncles, male cousins and male friends of the family. Most of them likely to be heterosexual.

By the way, aside from the point you're trying to make ... your math stinks ... :)

The "promiscuous gay life style" seems largely fiction to demean and degrade homosexuals. However, certainly they had to seek out lovers in secret -- fearful of any encounter with another male. Let's remember, it was highly dangerous for these men (and women) who were regularly beaten and often murdered because of their sexual orientation. All in the name of "Christianity," actually.

Haven't really been able to see or read anything more of David Shurter who seems to be some kind of a journalist. But I'll keep him in mind for further review. So is Shurter himself saying he also had 1000's of sexual partners ... or that he was just in those places reporting on what was happening? Did he watch these activities out in the open?

Presume you are Australian ... I'm here in US ...

And ... Catholic Church certainly active in both nations ... and very much a part of the story of sexual abuse of children, both here in US and in Australia.

(I've loved some of the Australian movies on the RCC -- think one was "Brides of Christ" ... ?? It's also an amazing story of Australian families and women. :)

Studies seem conclusive on this issue -- but obviously it isn't a subject that the powers that be want explored in any very specific ways.
Nor do they want to discuss bi-sexuality.

Just think of it -- most people in the population (parents) haven't even been told that it is MALES who are our sexual abusers of children.

Here's one study you might want to review ....

And note that pretty much no lesbian has ever been found sexually abusing a child.

QUOTE .........................

"Focus on the Facts" -- Sean Cahill, PH.D

A 1998 Study in the Journal of the American Medical Association found that 90% of pedophiles are men, and 95% of these individuals are heterosexual.

Research has indicated that gay men and lesbians are less likely than heterosexual to sexually abuse children.

Perhaps the most egregious and damaging claim promulgated by anti-gay groups is the claim that homosexuality is intrinsically linked to pedophilia and child sexual abuse. The social science research on sexual orientation and child sexual abuse clearly disproves the claim that homosexuals are more likely to molest children.
A 1998 study in the Journal of the American Medical Association found that 90% of pedophiles are men, and 95% of these individuals are heterosexual. One researcher explained this statistic by noting, "Gay men desire consensual sexual relations with other adult men. Pedophiles are usually adult men who are sexually attracted to pre-pubescent children. They are rarely sexually attracted to other adults. In fact, research has indicated that gay men and lesbians are LESS likely than heterosexuals to sexually abuse children. Two studies that examined the sexual orientation of convicted child molesters found that less than 1% in one study and 0% in the other were lesbian or gay. One psychologist reviewed the existing social science literature on the relationship between sexuality and child sexual abuse and found that "a gay man is no more likely than a straight man to perpetrate sexual activity with children." Further, "cases of perpetration of sexual behavior with a pre-pubescent child by an adult lesbian are virtually nonexistent."

Gay rights activists, like all advocates for children's welfare, oppose child sexual abuse and support equitable age of consent laws that help prevent and punish such abuse. At least 110,000 children are waiting to be adopted in the US. Approximately 588,00 children are currently in foster care. Barring gay men and lesbians from adopting or foster parenting decreases the number of potential suitable homes for children in need. Children who remain in foster care for much of their childhood, as do tens of thousands of American children, are more likely to have emotional problems. Some children in foster care live in 20 or more homes by the time they reach the age of 18. Barring gay men and lesbians from adopting or foster parenting is not simply unjust and unethical; it also decreases the number of potential suitable homes for children in need. Research shows that children raised by gay and lesbian parents are not disadvantaged vis-a-vis their peers raised by heterosexual parents.>

*Footnote 65 -- p.123

A review of 352 medical records of children evaluated for sexual abuse during a 12-month period at a Denver children's hospital found that less than 1% had been abused by a gay man or a lesbian. Of 269 adult perpetrators of child abuse identified among the 352 cases of abuse, only two were gay or lesbian. The vast majority of the children in the study (82%) "were suspected of being abused by a man or a woman who was, or had been, in a heterosexual relationship with a relative of the child." And the review concluded that in this sample, " a child's risk of being molested by his or her relative's heterosexual partner is over 100X greater [than the risk of being molested] by someone who might be identifiable as being homosexual, lesbian, or bisexual."
Jenny, C., and Roesler, T.A. (1994) Are children at risk for sexual abuse by homosexuals? Pediatrics. 94(1).p.44.

In an earlier study of convicted male child molesters in Massachusetts, none of the 175 men were found to have an exclusively homosexual adult sexual orientation or to be primarily attracted to other adult men.

Groth, A.N., and Birnbaum, H.J. (1978).

Adult sexual orientation and attraction to underage persons.

Archives of Sexual Behavior.7(3).pp.175-181.

Also : The right-wing "Family Research Council" notes/confirms findings that "almost all child sexual abuse is committed by men"