Why don't you explain why the kids were full of fresh cuts and bruises when they were examined by the doctor when the hadn't seen their father for three months
Oh right, you can't because then you would have to admit that Abraham Christie beat and tortured.those kids to make them say the things they did (which they admitted was the true story after the police investigated some of their claims and found them to be bullshit), and all the while the mother stood by and let him do that to them.
Or what about his past history of violence against his own children and hospitalizing his wife. Or the child porn found on his phone. Or that it was found he had drugged the kids. Or that the boy is now deaf in one ear because he punched him so hard there.
But you never want to talk about those things do you?
None of your obfuscation obscured from the fact a paediatrician confirmed sexual abuse FROM THEIR FATHER.
Nor the fact Ricky Dearman has NON-MOLESTATION ORDERS for ABUSING THE CHILDREN'S MOTHER IN FRONT OF THEM. Which he admitted on the BBC.
No she didn't. Why don't you explain why her peers pulled her up on using a technique that was discredited 25 years earlier because it was not proof of abuse and she had to change her original diagnosis?
And again, please explain how the kids had FRESH cuts and bruises on them when they hadn't been in touch with their father for three months and spent all their recent weeks in Morocco with AC and the mother?
Also, why are they both on the run? They know the police can't touch AC for the abuse he inflicted upon the children in Morrocco because it occurred in another country, but they can do him for the child porn found on his phone.
So please, change the subject again, come up with more bs accustations against me and ignore these important questions yet again. You only show yourself up as either a) the real abuser of the children or b) someone who supports him.
In short, one sick fuck named Abraham Christie (who beat his own kids, hospitalized his ex-wife and has a string of convictions for violence, fraud, firearms and drugs), latched on to a Russian mother with two kids for a few months and managed to beat and torture them into telling a fantastical story about how their father was head of a satanic pedo ring at a Hampstead school and local church, where the only person who was not in on it was the mother. She stood by and let him beat the kids btw.
He took them to Morocco where he was able to torture them without being arrested in the UK for it and he filmed them saying what he wanted them to say. He took the kids to a releative who was a policeman when they came back to the UK, who was so disturbed by the way he treated them, he reported it to the police.
They interviewed the kids, checked some of their story and drove them around trying to find the places they mentioned and when they confronted them that none of it existed, the kids broke down and said he had made them say it and that they hated him. The medical exams (it was done twice) prove that the kids were physically abused in the last few weeks.but the doctor used an outdated and discredited technique to examine the children's genitals. None of her peers agreed with her findings (which were based on the children telling her what Abraham had told them to say).
He and the mother did a runner out of the back and over the rooftops when the police came to see them (what mother wouldn't stay for the sake of her children) and his phone was found in the house which contained child porn, though it is not known if this was of the children or of other children. The children are now much happier in care and wish to go back to their mother, but not while he is in her life. This is always ignored by his supporters. They have some contact with their real father, who they say did nothing to them and it was all made up by AC.
Since then, Ac and their mother have remained on the run and have occasional spurts of posting crap on internet forums under various aliases, where they never answer the hard questions like the ones I brought up, instead accusing anyone that questions them of being someone they have issues with (for questioning their version with real facts).
Wow. I am flummoxed. Mouth Agape. I have seen that short video of a guy sitting in a chair and questioning a child and the child says it all occurred in Morocco. He insinuates it is all made up. That is what it is all about, the trying to make the children seem like liars. The children wanting to return to a Mother that took off and made a run on the rooftops with that pervert is very sad. They need more help. It seems everyone in this story needs serious help or time in the slammer. STAT.
The mother allowed AC to beat and torture her own children in front of her and then she ran away with him rather than turn up for the court appearances for her own kids. She chose him over them and continues to spout his paranoid and insane story rather than leave him and try and get her kids back. But he has plenty of free drugs to console her with so that's ok isn't it? It's very clear where her loyalties lie - with a child abuser she only knew for a few months before the kids were taken away.
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norobotono ago
Why don't you explain why the kids were full of fresh cuts and bruises when they were examined by the doctor when the hadn't seen their father for three months
Oh right, you can't because then you would have to admit that Abraham Christie beat and tortured.those kids to make them say the things they did (which they admitted was the true story after the police investigated some of their claims and found them to be bullshit), and all the while the mother stood by and let him do that to them.
Or what about his past history of violence against his own children and hospitalizing his wife. Or the child porn found on his phone. Or that it was found he had drugged the kids. Or that the boy is now deaf in one ear because he punched him so hard there.
But you never want to talk about those things do you?
LittlestHobo ago
Christine, why don't you explain to us all why you work for the CIA.
norobotono ago
So deluded that you even resort to accusing me of being someone that I am not and I have no idea who you are even referring to.
How about you address the things I brought up about AC in my original post?
Oh right - you can't with out admitting he is a child abuser!
LittlestHobo ago
None of your obfuscation obscured from the fact a paediatrician confirmed sexual abuse FROM THEIR FATHER. Nor the fact Ricky Dearman has NON-MOLESTATION ORDERS for ABUSING THE CHILDREN'S MOTHER IN FRONT OF THEM. Which he admitted on the BBC.
norobotono ago
No she didn't. Why don't you explain why her peers pulled her up on using a technique that was discredited 25 years earlier because it was not proof of abuse and she had to change her original diagnosis?
And again, please explain how the kids had FRESH cuts and bruises on them when they hadn't been in touch with their father for three months and spent all their recent weeks in Morocco with AC and the mother?
Also, why are they both on the run? They know the police can't touch AC for the abuse he inflicted upon the children in Morrocco because it occurred in another country, but they can do him for the child porn found on his phone.
So please, change the subject again, come up with more bs accustations against me and ignore these important questions yet again. You only show yourself up as either a) the real abuser of the children or b) someone who supports him.
How does that make you feel?
carmencita ago
What did I miss here? I read it all wrong?
norobotono ago
In short, one sick fuck named Abraham Christie (who beat his own kids, hospitalized his ex-wife and has a string of convictions for violence, fraud, firearms and drugs), latched on to a Russian mother with two kids for a few months and managed to beat and torture them into telling a fantastical story about how their father was head of a satanic pedo ring at a Hampstead school and local church, where the only person who was not in on it was the mother. She stood by and let him beat the kids btw.
He took them to Morocco where he was able to torture them without being arrested in the UK for it and he filmed them saying what he wanted them to say. He took the kids to a releative who was a policeman when they came back to the UK, who was so disturbed by the way he treated them, he reported it to the police.
They interviewed the kids, checked some of their story and drove them around trying to find the places they mentioned and when they confronted them that none of it existed, the kids broke down and said he had made them say it and that they hated him. The medical exams (it was done twice) prove that the kids were physically abused in the last few weeks.but the doctor used an outdated and discredited technique to examine the children's genitals. None of her peers agreed with her findings (which were based on the children telling her what Abraham had told them to say).
He and the mother did a runner out of the back and over the rooftops when the police came to see them (what mother wouldn't stay for the sake of her children) and his phone was found in the house which contained child porn, though it is not known if this was of the children or of other children. The children are now much happier in care and wish to go back to their mother, but not while he is in her life. This is always ignored by his supporters. They have some contact with their real father, who they say did nothing to them and it was all made up by AC.
Since then, Ac and their mother have remained on the run and have occasional spurts of posting crap on internet forums under various aliases, where they never answer the hard questions like the ones I brought up, instead accusing anyone that questions them of being someone they have issues with (for questioning their version with real facts).
carmencita ago
Wow. I am flummoxed. Mouth Agape. I have seen that short video of a guy sitting in a chair and questioning a child and the child says it all occurred in Morocco. He insinuates it is all made up. That is what it is all about, the trying to make the children seem like liars. The children wanting to return to a Mother that took off and made a run on the rooftops with that pervert is very sad. They need more help. It seems everyone in this story needs serious help or time in the slammer. STAT.
norobotono ago
The mother allowed AC to beat and torture her own children in front of her and then she ran away with him rather than turn up for the court appearances for her own kids. She chose him over them and continues to spout his paranoid and insane story rather than leave him and try and get her kids back. But he has plenty of free drugs to console her with so that's ok isn't it? It's very clear where her loyalties lie - with a child abuser she only knew for a few months before the kids were taken away.
carmencita ago
She should be locked up with him or get serious help. Sick Sick Sick.