She is unbelievable! There was no stealing anything from her. Her emails as @AreWeSure pointed out to me, on wikileaks, were released by a judge. This woman is unhinged, and a certified nut job.
"Sacrificing a chicken Moloch"
Laura Silsby busted for trying to steal kids. James Alefantis, Justin Trudeau, David Brock and possible brownstone bribery, Podesta/Skippy pedo yada yada, yada
All that collusion will governor Randall trying to take a whole bunch orphans from Haiti on flight to America, Beyond borders for Haiti sits on a block full of FBI pedo logo's including the pizza place. One of children just happens to die the day before getting on the plane. I could go on and on.
What about the drugs, arms, organs, and Bhenghazi Hillary? Salem witch trails for this woman! :-) They can not get on my truth trolling level, if she wants a public fight she is going to get it.
Clinton was involved because that's the job of the Secretary of State and this had become a diplomatic incident. It was quite apparent AT THE TIME, the US State Department was monitoring the situation and nobody considered it a scandal. BECAUSE ALL OF THE PRESS, both US and and International understood that this is an absolutely routine function of the State Department. There was nothing damning revealed in Clinton's emails that wasn't apparent in 2010. This only makes sense to people who don't understand this. The State Department gets involved in Americans arrested overseas. It doesn't matter what the crime is and doesn't matter guilt of innocence. The state department issures that the rights of Americans are seen to. It does not get involved in any actual trial. Silsby faced justice in a Haitian court and was convicted.
Oh nothing at all in the Clinton emails. Nothing like an operational plant to go harvest children in Haiti from New Life Children's Refuge in the Secretary of State's inbox. Completely normal.
This is one day after Silsby arrest. So Silsby and group get arrested the Desk Officer of the US Embassy gets a call about the arrest, he alerts consular affairs. Folks at consular affairs try to find out who these people are and by googling the name of the group, an official at the State Department finds that document on the website of Laura Silsby Church in Idaho. That document is then attached to an email that goes to Cheryl Mills who then send it to Clinton about 20 hours after Silsby was arrested.
Would you intervene as Secretary of State this quickly if it wasn't someone you knew well? Bullshit and you know it.
I have just proven she didn't know Silsby well. Man up and admit you were wrong.
The State Department intervened as quickly as it did because that is routine when consular affairs is called. There's a rotating position called a Duty Officer who has to be available 24 hours a day and carries around a big book of contact information so that a US citizen can always reach someone even in the middle of the night. I think they are on duty 48 hours at a time and then it rotates.
It went up the chain to the Secretary because it became an international incident with headlines around the word with 10 American Baptist Missionaries arrested. News reports referred to them like this
Church Group Arrested for Trafficking. Ten American Baptist church members .....
Idaho-based charity New Life Children's Refuge
Ten U.S. Baptists arrested trying to take 33 children out of earthquake-shattered Haiti say they were just trying to do the right thing, applying Christian principles to save Haitian children.
Southern Baptists are part of a voting bloc that went 80% against Democrats. Can you imagine the headlines and conspiracy theories, if the State Department didn't become involved? Three Presidents of the Baptist convention urged Obama to do more during this case.
The State Department was also criticized in the Amanda Knox case for reacting slowly. Knox didn't even get a lawyer at first.
"I have just proven she didn't know Silsby well" You just disproved your own statement right there, shit for brains. If she hadn't known the Clintons, the appropriate phrase would have been, "at all", not "well". People who don't know someone "well", still know them. The semantics are pointless however.
Everything after that is notice.
You truly are a stupid individual. Go do what you do best and go fuck a goat.
"I have just proven she didn't know Silsby well" You just disproved your own statement right there, shit for brains. If she hadn't known the Clintons, the appropriate phrase would have been, "at all", not "well".
I was quoting you, dipshit. I was using your words. Which are false and I which I just showed to be false.
And if you need it spelled out for you. Hillary Clinton did not know Silsby or any of these other Baptists from Idaho AT ALL before they were arrested in Haiti.
You are still wrong and still no man enough to admit this. The evidence is absolutely clear on this.
I didn't state they had a prior connection. Did Hillary, who was very well aware about the accusations reguarding Silsby in Haiti, do anything later, to prevent her from taking up employment at alert sense?
"The state department insures that the rights of Americans are seen to."-someone should've told Killary the job requirements before Bhenghazi., she failed miserably.
I didn't state they had a prior connection. Did Hillary, who was very well aware about the accusations reguarding Silsby in Haiti, do anything later, to prevent her from taking up employment at alert sense?
And you are making this connection: Laura Silsby busted for trying to steal kids. Silsby getting arrested had nothing to do with Clinton who didn't even know who she was until she was arrested.
Did Hillary, who was very well aware about the accusations reguarding Silsby in Haiti, do anything later, to prevent her from taking up employment at alert sense?
This is a question that makes no sense whatsoever. You're viewing things through an incredibly narrow prism. Why would Hillary do anything? Why would Hillary even be aware this was happening? Alert Sense is a private company. Do you think they need Hillary's permission to hire someone?
"The state department insures that the rights of Americans are seen to."-someone should've told Killary the job requirements before Bhenghazi., she failed miserably.
No your wrong, I mentioned her name based on the fact she showed up in the emails.
Where your logic came from, on what you feel I meant, escapes me.
Your right why would she do anything to protect children? She has no morals and no soul. Look at the covering up she did, of pedophilia at the State department, when she was an active employee. She let her daughter take money from Haiti, to use on her wedding. Think about that.
Bhenghazi is when my issues began with Killary. I really don't want to rehash every detail so you would never know the extent of my grasp, I could be writting for weeks.
Next you will be saying she completely missed the cannibal art on Podesta's office wall, or she didn't know her secretary's husband was an mk ultra pedo project from MIT, and they weren't close with Epstein either.
I mentioned her name based on the fact she showed up in the emails. Where
Yes, her name showed up in the emails and she has no connection to Hillary Clinton whatsoever other than the fact she was an American who were arrested when Hillary Clinton ran the state Department. You want to link Silsby's crime to Clinton and there's zero basis for it. The State Department's Consular Services apply to all Americans no matter what they are charged with and no matter what their crime is. It's simply ensuring your legal rights are adhered to and doing things like providing a list of attorneys in the country who can speak English. The person still has to face justice within that country.
Your right why would she do anything to protect children?
You obviously don't know the woman you speak of. And you should admit you used a ludicrous example of Hillary Clinton trying to stop something she didn't know about and has no power or authority to stop.
First of all, why do you feel you know the exact truth? No one does. All we can do is speculate and research on whats provided to the public. Both Clintons were involved and it wouldn't surprise me one bit if they got her that job.
Hillary and Bill Clinton took an extraordinary interest in Silsby’s case from the moment she was arrested and almost immediately stepped in on her behalf. The Harvard Human Rights Journal stated that one of Bill Clinton's first acts as special envoy for the United Nations in Haiti "was to put out the fire of a child abduction scandal involving American citizens." On February 7th, 2010, The Sunday Times reported that Bill Clinton had intervened to strike a deal with the Haitian government, securing the release of all co-conspirators except for Silsby. Prosecutors ultimately sought a six-month sentence in Silsby's case, reducing charges for conspiracy and child abduction to mere "arranging irregular travel." A shockingly light penalty given the circumstances of her arrest, which would likely not have been possible but for the intervention of the Clintons in Silsby's case.
The State department is supposed to "provide a list of Attorneys" when your arrested not send an Attorney they know or a former "Pedo" President to save the day.
I know enough about her to say she should get the same justice as she gave him:
All we can do is speculate and research on whats provided to the public.
And from the very beginning the pizzagate community came to a false conclusion: That Clinton had been following Silsby since 2001 and thus her actions were due to a personal interest. And this conclusion is completely false as I have shown. All the other actions were viewed through this distorted lens.
Hillary and Bill Clinton took an extraordinary interest in Silsby’s case from the moment she was arrested and almost immediately stepped in on her behalf.
This is false. They did not take an extraordinary interest in her case. They took AN ORDINARY interest. This would have been provided to any other AMCIT, that is AMERICAN CITIZEN. The Secretary of State gets involved when US citizens cause international incidents. That is what happened here. This is why there was no scandal AT ALL involving Clinton's conduct at the time it happened.
A shockingly light penalty given the circumstances of her arrest, which would likely not have been possible but for the intervention of the Clintons in Silsby's case.
This is false. Silsby went to Trial and faced Justice in a Haitian court.
My speculation is the original charges of kidnapping would not have stood up, because she didn't just snatch the children. She spoke to their parents and their parents turned them over.
My understanding of the case is the 8 who got off basically left everything up to Silsby who told them things were in order.
The State department is supposed to "provide a list of Attorneys" when your arrested not send an Attorney they know
This didn't occur. Why do you think it did.
All of the members of the State Department became involved because this was a group of American Citizens, not because it was Laura Silsby, not because they were directed to by Secretary Clinton. That is the proper lens to view this incident. All these people got involved because American Citizens were involved. All got involved before Hillary Clinton had ever heard of Laura Silsby.
Embassy Duty Officer in Santo Domingo
Consular Affairs in Haiti
Office of U.S. Foreign Disaster Assistance
Haiti Task Force 1
Port Au Prince Control Room
Joleen Schweitzer
Paul Cantrell
Michelle Bernier-Toth
Bill Bistransky
Michelle Bond
Michael Kirby
Daniel Smith
Janice Jacobs
Patrick Kennedy
Cheryl Mills
This was routine response to an extraordinary case.
Hell no, she snatched those kids, I don't give a shit if you say the parents did give them up. She didn't have the right documentation, and she wasn't trying to wait around for it either.
Don't worry about RWeSure. They're not shills, only gatekeepers designed to sharpen our brains as all of this unravels. So much of the war will be if we can persuade the masses to believe the truth.
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Gothamgirl ago
She is unbelievable! There was no stealing anything from her. Her emails as @AreWeSure pointed out to me, on wikileaks, were released by a judge. This woman is unhinged, and a certified nut job.
"Sacrificing a chicken Moloch"
Laura Silsby busted for trying to steal kids. James Alefantis, Justin Trudeau, David Brock and possible brownstone bribery, Podesta/Skippy pedo yada yada, yada
All that collusion will governor Randall trying to take a whole bunch orphans from Haiti on flight to America, Beyond borders for Haiti sits on a block full of FBI pedo logo's including the pizza place. One of children just happens to die the day before getting on the plane. I could go on and on.
What about the drugs, arms, organs, and Bhenghazi Hillary? Salem witch trails for this woman! :-) They can not get on my truth trolling level, if she wants a public fight she is going to get it.
Are_we__sure ago
Laura Silsby as I've pointed has no prior connection to Clinton.
https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2122876
Clinton was involved because that's the job of the Secretary of State and this had become a diplomatic incident. It was quite apparent AT THE TIME, the US State Department was monitoring the situation and nobody considered it a scandal. BECAUSE ALL OF THE PRESS, both US and and International understood that this is an absolutely routine function of the State Department. There was nothing damning revealed in Clinton's emails that wasn't apparent in 2010. This only makes sense to people who don't understand this. The State Department gets involved in Americans arrested overseas. It doesn't matter what the crime is and doesn't matter guilt of innocence. The state department issures that the rights of Americans are seen to. It does not get involved in any actual trial. Silsby faced justice in a Haitian court and was convicted.
Blacksmith21 ago
Oh nothing at all in the Clinton emails. Nothing like an operational plant to go harvest children in Haiti from New Life Children's Refuge in the Secretary of State's inbox. Completely normal.
https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/3776
Q: How do Muslims practice safe sex?
A: They mark the camels that kick!
Are_we_sure ago
Yeah, this was found and downloaded AFTER Laura Silsby was arrested.
It was an attachment to this email https://www.wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/3765
It's first appearance in Clinton's inbox was
This is one day after Silsby arrest. So Silsby and group get arrested the Desk Officer of the US Embassy gets a call about the arrest, he alerts consular affairs. Folks at consular affairs try to find out who these people are and by googling the name of the group, an official at the State Department finds that document on the website of Laura Silsby Church in Idaho. That document is then attached to an email that goes to Cheryl Mills who then send it to Clinton about 20 hours after Silsby was arrested.
Reuters had an article up on the group about the same time. http://www.reuters.com/article/us-quake-haiti-arrests/americans-arrested-taking-children-out-of-haiti-idUSTRE60T23I20100130
Blacksmith21 ago
Would you intervene as Secretary of State this quickly if it wasn't someone you knew well? Bullshit and you know it.
Are_we_sure ago
I have just proven she didn't know Silsby well. Man up and admit you were wrong.
The State Department intervened as quickly as it did because that is routine when consular affairs is called. There's a rotating position called a Duty Officer who has to be available 24 hours a day and carries around a big book of contact information so that a US citizen can always reach someone even in the middle of the night. I think they are on duty 48 hours at a time and then it rotates. It went up the chain to the Secretary because it became an international incident with headlines around the word with 10 American Baptist Missionaries arrested. News reports referred to them like this
Southern Baptists are part of a voting bloc that went 80% against Democrats. Can you imagine the headlines and conspiracy theories, if the State Department didn't become involved? Three Presidents of the Baptist convention urged Obama to do more during this case.
The State Department was also criticized in the Amanda Knox case for reacting slowly. Knox didn't even get a lawyer at first.
Blacksmith21 ago
"I have just proven she didn't know Silsby well" You just disproved your own statement right there, shit for brains. If she hadn't known the Clintons, the appropriate phrase would have been, "at all", not "well". People who don't know someone "well", still know them. The semantics are pointless however.
Everything after that is notice.
You truly are a stupid individual. Go do what you do best and go fuck a goat.
RweSure ago
I was quoting you, dipshit. I was using your words. Which are false and I which I just showed to be false. And if you need it spelled out for you. Hillary Clinton did not know Silsby or any of these other Baptists from Idaho AT ALL before they were arrested in Haiti.
You are still wrong and still no man enough to admit this. The evidence is absolutely clear on this.
Gothamgirl ago
I didn't state they had a prior connection. Did Hillary, who was very well aware about the accusations reguarding Silsby in Haiti, do anything later, to prevent her from taking up employment at alert sense?
"The state department insures that the rights of Americans are seen to."-someone should've told Killary the job requirements before Bhenghazi., she failed miserably.
Are_we__sure ago
The prior connection was the basis for saying there was any connection between Hillary and Silsby. It started here. https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/5aupnh/breaking_i_believe_i_have_connected_a_convicted/
And you are making this connection: Laura Silsby busted for trying to steal kids. Silsby getting arrested had nothing to do with Clinton who didn't even know who she was until she was arrested.
This is a question that makes no sense whatsoever. You're viewing things through an incredibly narrow prism. Why would Hillary do anything? Why would Hillary even be aware this was happening? Alert Sense is a private company. Do you think they need Hillary's permission to hire someone?
Wow. You really have a grasp on the issues there.
Gothamgirl ago
No your wrong, I mentioned her name based on the fact she showed up in the emails. Where your logic came from, on what you feel I meant, escapes me.
Your right why would she do anything to protect children? She has no morals and no soul. Look at the covering up she did, of pedophilia at the State department, when she was an active employee. She let her daughter take money from Haiti, to use on her wedding. Think about that.
Bhenghazi is when my issues began with Killary. I really don't want to rehash every detail so you would never know the extent of my grasp, I could be writting for weeks.
Next you will be saying she completely missed the cannibal art on Podesta's office wall, or she didn't know her secretary's husband was an mk ultra pedo project from MIT, and they weren't close with Epstein either.
RweSure ago
Yes, her name showed up in the emails and she has no connection to Hillary Clinton whatsoever other than the fact she was an American who were arrested when Hillary Clinton ran the state Department. You want to link Silsby's crime to Clinton and there's zero basis for it. The State Department's Consular Services apply to all Americans no matter what they are charged with and no matter what their crime is. It's simply ensuring your legal rights are adhered to and doing things like providing a list of attorneys in the country who can speak English. The person still has to face justice within that country.
You obviously don't know the woman you speak of. And you should admit you used a ludicrous example of Hillary Clinton trying to stop something she didn't know about and has no power or authority to stop.
Gothamgirl ago
First of all, why do you feel you know the exact truth? No one does. All we can do is speculate and research on whats provided to the public. Both Clintons were involved and it wouldn't surprise me one bit if they got her that job.
http://archive.is/tFJ9h
Hillary and Bill Clinton took an extraordinary interest in Silsby’s case from the moment she was arrested and almost immediately stepped in on her behalf. The Harvard Human Rights Journal stated that one of Bill Clinton's first acts as special envoy for the United Nations in Haiti "was to put out the fire of a child abduction scandal involving American citizens." On February 7th, 2010, The Sunday Times reported that Bill Clinton had intervened to strike a deal with the Haitian government, securing the release of all co-conspirators except for Silsby. Prosecutors ultimately sought a six-month sentence in Silsby's case, reducing charges for conspiracy and child abduction to mere "arranging irregular travel." A shockingly light penalty given the circumstances of her arrest, which would likely not have been possible but for the intervention of the Clintons in Silsby's case.
The State department is supposed to "provide a list of Attorneys" when your arrested not send an Attorney they know or a former "Pedo" President to save the day.
I know enough about her to say she should get the same justice as she gave him:
https://youtu.be/Fgcd1ghag5Y
https://m.liveleak.com/view?i=ee6_1319234557
RweSure ago
And from the very beginning the pizzagate community came to a false conclusion: That Clinton had been following Silsby since 2001 and thus her actions were due to a personal interest. And this conclusion is completely false as I have shown. All the other actions were viewed through this distorted lens.
This is false. Silsby went to Trial and faced Justice in a Haitian court.
My speculation is the original charges of kidnapping would not have stood up, because she didn't just snatch the children. She spoke to their parents and their parents turned them over.
My understanding of the case is the 8 who got off basically left everything up to Silsby who told them things were in order.
This didn't occur. Why do you think it did.
All of the members of the State Department became involved because this was a group of American Citizens, not because it was Laura Silsby, not because they were directed to by Secretary Clinton. That is the proper lens to view this incident. All these people got involved because American Citizens were involved. All got involved before Hillary Clinton had ever heard of Laura Silsby.
Embassy Duty Officer in Santo Domingo
Consular Affairs in Haiti
Office of U.S. Foreign Disaster Assistance
Haiti Task Force 1
Port Au Prince Control Room
Joleen Schweitzer
Paul Cantrell
Michelle Bernier-Toth
Bill Bistransky
Michelle Bond
Michael Kirby
Daniel Smith
Janice Jacobs
Patrick Kennedy
Cheryl Mills
This was routine response to an extraordinary case.
Gothamgirl ago
Hell no, she snatched those kids, I don't give a shit if you say the parents did give them up. She didn't have the right documentation, and she wasn't trying to wait around for it either.
LA_Trump ago
Don't worry about RWeSure. They're not shills, only gatekeepers designed to sharpen our brains as all of this unravels. So much of the war will be if we can persuade the masses to believe the truth.
Gothamgirl ago
I see, sorry about that thought it was a troll like pgizretarded again.
LA_Trump ago
No one realizes that about R We sure, but that's ok.
Gothamgirl ago
Sorry, I have to take that back I was right, its a troll.
LA_Trump ago
Most likely. I’m the only one who thinks all the trolls here are white hat gatekeepers. But I reserve the right to be wrong about that.