I posted this info previously, but my evidence was not seriously engaged.
https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2058303
Two Claims made by pizzagate investigators are that Clinton knew Silsby for a long time and that there is a connection between Alefantis and Silsby. I can prove that both of these are false.
Claim 1: Clinton knew Silsby for a long time
At the start of pizzagate this post on Reddit was considered to be a key piece of evidence.
I believe I have connected a convicted child abductor who was caught stealing children in Haiti with the Clintons
https://archive.is/6lveq#selection-1119.458-1119.635
This post is false. This claim is specifically false.
Hillary has a LONG history of interest in Ms. Silsby. Wikileak emails dating back till at least 2001 have been found in her archives discussing Laura's NGO.
He uses this document from Wikileaks to support his claim.
However, if you know what that document is and how it got in Hillary's emails it shows the opposite of what he claims. The truth is:
It absolutely false that Hillary has a LONG history of interest in Silsby.
It is absolutely false this document is an email.
It is absolutely false this document dates back to 2001.
There are multiple sources of evidence that prove conclusively this document is from 2010 and not 2001.
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Wikileaks doesn't have Clinton's emails from 2001.
She became Secretary of State in 2009 and that is when she started using her clintonemail.com account.
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The document is Silsby plan about what to do when she gets to Haiti and and it clearly was written after the massive earthquake on January 12, 2010 which she mentions ...."the catastrophic earthquake** this past week.**
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If you go to the original source of this document you see it's not an email and that Wikileaks has this wrong in their system and they clearly have the date wrong, they also have this as "an email" but with no sender and no recipient.
From:
To:
Date: 2001-01-01 03:00 AM
This is a mistake in the Wikileaks system and possibly in the State Department FOIA site, but once you read the document, it's clearly from 2010.
We CAN identify exactly how this document got in HIllary Clinton's emails and it does not prove a longstanding connection. In fact, it proves no on in the State Department knew who Laura Silsby was before her arrest. This document is a PDF attachment to an email and it was downloaded AFTER Silsby's group was arrested.
The email thread that has that attachment is from Cheryl Mills has the subject 10 AmCits arrested with 33 children, headed to DR. Now under arrest in Port au Prince
https://www.wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/3765
From: Mills, Cheryl D MillsCD@state.gov
Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 5:39 PM
To:
Subject: Fw: 10 AmCits arrested with 33 children, headed to DR. Now under arrest in Port au
Prince
Attachments: nIcrhaitianorphanrescuemission.pdf
There's a couple of other things hugely important in that email thread. One is this whole thing is not coming from Clinton. It's coming from Consular Affairs in Haiti and goes up the chain. Consular Affairs is part of the State Department's mission. It involves helping Americans arrested overseas.
Arrest or Detention of a U.S. Citizen Abroad
**One of the highest priorities of the Department of State and U.S. embassies and consulates abroad is to provide assistance to U.S. citizens incarcerated abroad. **The Department of State is committed to ensuring fair and humane treatment for U.S. citizens imprisoned overseas. We stand ready to assist incarcerated citizens and their families within the limits of our authority in accordance with international law, domestic and foreign law.
The second hugely important thing to note is nobody at the State Department knows who these people are. They are identified at 10 AMCIT or American Citizens. The way the guy found the PDF that he attached to the email is by googling the name of the group arrested in Haiti. You can go to the State Department's website and read all the emails chronologically and see Silsby and these other Baptists were unknowns. In fact, there's no evidence whatsoever that Hillary Clinton or anyone else in Washington DC, had any idea at all about who Laura Silsby and this group of Baptists from Idaho were before they got arrested in Haiti and that includes Alefantis and MacComby.
So YES, there is a lot of State Department Activity involved Laura Silsby's group and the State Department going up to the Secretary's level. But that is not because it was Laura Silsby. It was because a bunch of American's were arrested in Haiti, Baptist Missionaries at that, and assisting Americans arrested abroad is one of the core mission of the State Department. The reason it reached the Secretary's level is because this was an international incident. It made headlines around the world. Silsby was denounced at the highest levels of the Haitian government including by the Prime Minister. Baptist leaders were pleading with President Obama to get involved. The reason there is any connection between Clinton and Silsby is simply that Clinton was Secretary of State at the time of Silsby's arrest and it was part of her job. There was no preexisting relationship. Read that first email thread to see this
https://www.wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/3765
The chain is
1. Consular Affairs in Haiti emails other State Department officials about a phone call saying that "10 Amcits from Idaho" were arrested.
2 Then Michelle T Bond who was the deputy assistant secretary of state for overseas citizens services forwards the first email to Cheryl Mills and others. She still doesn't know the name of the people involved, but she knows the name of the group
The group is called the New Life Children Refuge America Organization (NLCR). Bill Bistransky found the attached "Plan
of Action"(P0A) on their web site when he googled that name.
3. Cheryl Mills forwards this to Clinton. She just says "Heads up - will forward more as known"
Silsby is not mentioned in these emails. There's no indication at all that Silsby is the leader of these team. She is named in the PDF attachment which just says
Haiti Team: Laura Silsby, Charisa Coulter, Carla Thompson, Nicole & Corrinna Lankford
The next email that mentions them is just called Update on Arrestees and includes no names again, but mentions they are from Meriden, Idaho
https://www.wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/3752
It is now proven that no evidence exists for this claim: Clinton knew Silsby for a long time
I will take up claim two in another thread.
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Commoner ago
How did Silsby get a job with Amber Alert after being arrested for kidnapping kids?
Are_we_sure ago
I have no idea. And it doesn't affect what I just showed: It is now proven that no evidence exists for this claim: Clinton knew Silsby for a long time.
DeathTooMasons ago
They didn't have to know her. It makes it worse if they didn't know her, but were being kept abrest about her activity and got her out when she was arrested. Think about it. They help a total stranger traficker for what reason? Worse than if she was a friend. This thread is an epic fail.
RweSure ago
This is completely false. They were notified that 10 American Baptists Missionaries were arrested and for this reason the State Department got involved. And it doesn't matter what the charge is. The State Department also kept track of Amanda Knox in Italy when she was charged and then convicted (falsely) of the greater crime of murder. This is why the 10 AMCIT email is so important. AMCIT is American Citizens and that is why the State Department and Hillary Clinton became involved. Because it was their job. Consular services are available for every American Citizen abroad.
They DID NOT get her out. That is false. Silsby went to trial and was convicted.